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This is well worth reading. 

 

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Jagannath Chatterjee:

 

When I started my campaign, sometime in 1985, on the internet from 2001, doctors responded by saying that vaccine safety was beyond question, they were as safe as water. Later as I intensified my campaign and cited peer reviewed published material on risks from vaccines, they modified their stance to; well all medications have some risk. Today they fall back upon the riskbenefit analysis meaning that the benefits outweigh the risks. Today I will touch on this topic in a generalised fashion so that all can comprehend what I am trying to say. 

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yes it certainly was worth the read. Thanks for posting!


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2nd pg 1st full paragraph, what are those numbers? Hundred thousands or millions?


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Jagannath Chatterjee is who again?

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Apparently he is an anti vaccination activist in India. I have no reason to believe he has anything credible to say and I'm sure he'll get ripped apart here. In fact I read somewhere on a provax blog that was ripping him up that he stated if after reading everything he wrote people went ahead and vaccinated their kid, they desrved to have a vaccine damaged child. Not sure if that's true but thats disgusting if it is. However I will say I think much of what he has said has some truth to it. It's the things that we go round and round about here all the time!!


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found this: I've also seen he refers to himself as Dr, but can't find anything about what kind of Dr. or his educational background.

 

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Jagannath Chatterjee
Health & Human Rights Activist,
Member: MANITHAM, Chennai,
Loksatta, Maharashtra/Hyderabad,
India Force (State Head),
Governing Body Member: Coalition for GM Free India,
Actively involved with: Coalition for GM Free Orissa,
Coalition for Food Safety & Sovereignty,
Pesticide Action Network,
Centre for Sustainable Agriculture,
Trained by : Pesticide Action Network, Asia Pacific,
Centre for Sustainable Agriculture.


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Apparently he is an anti vaccination activist in India. I have no reason to believe he has anything credible to say and I'm sure he'll get ripped apart here. In fact I read somewhere on a provax blog that was ripping him up that he stated if after reading everything he wrote people went ahead and vaccinated their kid, they desrved to have a vaccine damaged child. Not sure if that's true but thats disgusting if it is. However I will say I think much of what he has said has some truth to it. It's the things that we go round and round about here all the time!!

Ah. I'm not a fan of reading anything from a pro or anti side of any topic. Sometimes individuals or groups just get an idea in their head and scour the internet to tell them what they want to hear... typically they have blinders on to any other opinion and will dismiss any source who doesn't agree with them. Anyone who makes a statement like "deserves to have a damaged child" seems not only to have an agenda but also a bit insane. 

 

It's so time consuming sorting out the conspiracy theorist wing nuts on one side and the money hungry sell-outs on the other. 

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Ah. I'm not a fan of reading anything from a pro or anti side of any topic. Sometimes individuals or groups just get an idea in their head and scour the internet to tell them what they want to hear... typically they have blinders on to any other opinion and will dismiss any source who doesn't agree with them. Anyone who makes a statement like "deserves to have a damaged child" seems not only to have an agenda but also a bit insane. 

 

It's so time consuming sorting out the conspiracy theorist wing nuts on one side and the money hungry sell-outs on the other. 

 

I found it also does not help when in real life you see things first hand and that is dismissed too. (antidotal doesn't count!)

 

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I found it also does not help when in real life you see things first hand and that is dismissed too. (antidotal doesn't count!)

 

Believing in an abstract is one thing, day to day life really does change personal perspective-IMO

 

I don't get what you mean. If you see something in real life, isn't that anecdotal? 

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I don't get what you mean. If you see something in real life, isn't that anecdotal? 

and by one side that should not count (factor into) as "research" in making your discussion 


 

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I found it also does not help when in real life you see things first hand and that is dismissed too. (antidotal doesn't count!)

 

Believing in an abstract is one thing, day to day life really does change personal perspective-IMO

I totally agree with this and anecdotal information factors into my choices for my family alongside a myriad of other reasons, but I'm not sure anyone here is saying it shouldn't factor in?? We are just trying to find out more about this author and I think escaping's point is actually well taken. There are zealots on both sides and usually those types are not where I like to get my information. With that said I will repeat what I said before of this fellow's article. He is not saying anything that I have not read before from other perhaps more credible sources. With all that in mind that just goes to show that often the zealots actually do have something important, true and relevant to say, but unfortunately that will get lost to people who are seeking more balanced information because of making statements like he allegedly made. just my 2cents.gif


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