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An interesting article by MDC member Sandy Gottstein.

 

http://www.vaccinationnews.com/Scandals/2003/Dec_2/Scandal67.htm

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Thanks so much for posting this.  Note that it was written in 2003, when I still was using my married name.  I now go by Sandy Gottstein.

 

Sad to say, in 10 years little attention has been paid to the possible connection between the rubella vaccine and autism...

 

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Hi Sandy! Thanks for popping in. I realized the article was "old", but highly relevant today as both autism and diabetes are on the rise. Well autism is about to go beyond the roof.

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I'm glad you posted it and see it's continued relevance!  I mentioned the age because of the name change and precisely because nothing else has really changed.

 

Did you see my latest on the most recent CDC study? Gladness Reigns in Autism Land 

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i am in the midst of trying to find sources for research about rubella infection and post rubella arthritis syndrome...if anyone has any ideas, please pass them along, as i would truly appreciate it.  NO dr can figure out what is causing my arthritis at my age, and i had rubella as an infant at 4mos old back in the early 60's..i also had juvie arthritis which dissipated by age 10...it seems to be coming back with a vengeance, as i near menopause.  NO ONE my age is suffering like I am with this.  During my pregnancies, it was marked that my rubella titers were very high.  I have had numerous blood tests which are inconclusive as well.  I know this is a little OT, but the post title caught my attention. 

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Sorry to hear about your problems with post-rubella arthritis!  One place you might want to start is the IOM publication on pertussis and rubella vaccines.  I believe there is quite a bit of information on natural rubella and arthritis.  Here is a link to that section in the book: http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=1815&page=187

 

I will try, when I get a chance to find some more recent information for you.

 

Hope this helps.


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That's the problem I am having is finding articles which relate to natural rubella infection...all i can find is articles pertaining to the vaccine, which i never had..i had the natural infection at 4mos of age.  According to my mother, it lasted four days of rash and fever.  

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I believe there may be resources related to natural infection in that chapter.  Let me know if I am wrong.  Meanwhile, I will try to do some checking.


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Here are some articles (some of which compare natural to vaccination-acquired rubella associated arthritis).  Unfortunately, it looks like they concern adult acquired rubella.:

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6398166

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1001829/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12508767

 

I'll dig some more when I get a chance.


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Here are some articles (some of which compare natural to vaccination-acquired rubella associated arthritis).  Unfortunately, it looks like they concern adult acquired rubella.:

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6398166

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1001829/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12508767

 

I'll dig some more when I get a chance.

thank you

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Can anyone help?  I can't find my post earlier today on Autism and Alzheimer's!  (Just got back from babysitting my grandson!!  Saw it earlier, both on this site and on my phone, but couldn't reply then.)


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Sandy, I can't find it, either. I even tried searching through all your posts; it's just not there, and Safari crashed on me for the first time EVER while I was searching.

Very strange.

Maybe pm Cynthia Mosher and ask what's going on?
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I sent her an email yesterday but haven't heard back.  I'll see if I can send her a pm now.


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How do I access her PM?  


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Go to the top right-hand corner of this page. click on the "0 New Messages.". That will take you to your pm box.

Click on the blue "compose new" button, about halfway down on the left-hand side.

Then, just type her name in the "to" section. As you type, you'll see her name come up in a suggestion field. Click on it, and then scroll down and write your message.
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Thanks, Taximom5.


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