I do see the parallel, however can't parents read the package insert if they ask to see it? I know most don't know to ask, but if they asked for it, I would think the doctor would provide it no?
Not always. First of all, the doctor doesn't administer the vaccines; the nurse does. I had to make a huge fuss before the nurse got the package insert. This was in 2004, and she kept insisting that all pediatric vaccines were thimerosal-free, and she absolutely did not believe me when I told her that ALL multi-use vaccine vials are preserved with thimerosal.
Second of all, since even the "informed consent" is a ridiculous joke (every sheet I've been given ONLY mentions the risks of redness, swelling, fever, and fussiness, NOTHING ELSE), that's a pretty good indication that there is an awful lot that's already gone wrong in terms of transparency.
is this in the UK?
Yeah it depends - my office does have sheets that acknowledge anything from redness to death from the given vaccine. The local military base only hands out belittling sheets stating redness, fever and give Tylenol and nothing bad ever, ever happens. THey don't even disclose which brand they use and refuse to do so (I know, I asked, I was yelled at for asking such a question, as a parent I have no business to ask this and better do what they say - obviously I never came back).
Prosciencemum, I haven't signed a consent form in a few years, but the ones I signed were actually SEPARATE from the the sheet listing risks. The consent form said that I consented to vaccination, and that I had been informed of the risks. The other form, on green paper, was the one that listed fever, redness, swelling, and fussiness, and I was supposed to take it home in case I forgot that the risks were fever, redness, swelling, and fussiness. And it said to call my doctor if I was concerned about any other symptoms.
And you know how that went for me.
Guess this family wasn't so lucky....Do you really think that each and every person out there in getting all the necessary information about vaccines to make a thoughtful informed choice?
According to the information I was given, the only risk was if you had a ‘severe immune disease e.g. HIV.’ I knew Angie had some chronic fatigue and celiac, but it said “SEVERE” and “HIV” – those are STRONG words that didn’t seem to fit Angela.
So, trusting what I know now to be a vague and ‘ill-informed’ piece of paper, I signed and she began her shots.
It wasn’t until I reported her side effects to the local health unit I found out the HPV shot was Gardasil. It was only after I reported adverse reactions that the local health unit directed me to the manufacturer’s website and Merck’s product monograph. I was appalled at the very long list of side effects worded much differently than the information I had been given. It included phrases like a ‘weakened immune system’ as one of the risks. At the bottom of the list it stated “this is not a complete list of side effects.” Had I been given an opportunity to read this ahead of time, I would have never agreed to Angela receiving Gardasil at all.
or this family who little girl is a quadriplegic now from her flu shot.
Honestly I think it's incredibly naive to think that people are given all the information up front when a vaccine is given. Id be willing to bet my house that thats the exception, not the rule.
looks like it got voted down. Big shocker there. Here is what gets me:
So when my doctor discusses the risks of a drug he prescribes and I get that piece of paper when I pick up my rx that lists alllllllllll of the possible side effects - that means he is anti-drug? wtf?