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http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/8199964/We-were-hippies-about-it

 

I've read several articles about this poor family's ordeal, but wondering if anyone else has more information.  They say the boy got a small "scratch" on his foot and got tetanus.  In all my reading, tetanus can't survive in oxygen.  If it was truly only a scratch it would have been exposed to oxygen, right?  It seems we definitely are not getting all the facts, one way or the other.

 

I hate the tone of every article I have found about this story btw eyesroll.gif

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Here's another article about that poor boy.

http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2013/06/06/3776327.htm

 

From Mayo Clinic

"The bacteria that cause tetanus, Clostridium tetani, are found in soil, dust and animal feces. When they enter a deep flesh wound, spores of the bacteria may produce a powerful toxin, tetanospasmin, which actively impairs your motor neurons, nerves that control your muscles. The effect of the toxin on your motor neurons can cause muscle stiffness and spasms — the major signs of tetanus."

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/tetanus/DS00227/DSECTION=causes

 

Exposing the wound to oxygen will NOT prevent/stop an infection. That is a myth. 

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Here's another article about that poor boy.

http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2013/06/06/3776327.htm

 

From Mayo Clinic

"The bacteria that cause tetanus, Clostridium tetani, are found in soil, dust and animal feces. When they enter a deep flesh wound, spores of the bacteria may produce a powerful toxin, tetanospasmin, which actively impairs your motor neurons, nerves that control your muscles. The effect of the toxin on your motor neurons can cause muscle stiffness and spasms — the major signs of tetanus."

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/tetanus/DS00227/DSECTION=causes

 

Exposing the wound to oxygen will NOT prevent/stop an infection. That is a myth. 

where in the mayo link does it say oxygen will not stop tetanus from developing?  i couldn't find it. 

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Public Resources - Tetanus this is a more comprehensive and accurate assessment of tetanus than the dumbed down piece from the Mayo Clinic.

 

The enbedded links are also worth reading, especially this text from1940 which has some very valuable information written before antibiotics, when doctors had extensive knowledge of tetanus.


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Here's the deal - the parents thought the injury was minor, it was probably more serious than they thought. They described it as a scrape or scratch and it might have been, but if the bacteria was there it might have gotten deep enough to be in a low oxygen environment and spread.

 

Tetanus thrives in low oxygen environments (it doesn't have to be completely oxygen-free). Usually minor scrapes are not likely to become serious infections, but there are all kinds of reasons that something can become a low oxygen environment. Airing out a wound is a good idea but it won't cure an infection if it's already occurred.

 

These parents now believe that they should have vaccinated their child. They feel there is too much misinformation about vaccines and they regret their decision not to vaccinate. On the positive side, it sounds like the child will survive. According to the CDC, Tetanus leads to death in about 1 in 10 cases.

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Exposing the wound to oxygen will NOT prevent/stop an infection. That is a myth. 

 

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 It can be concluded that adequate delivery of oxygen to the wound tissue is vital for optimal healing and resistance to infection

 

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14961190

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Here's the deal - the parents thought the injury was minor, it was probably more serious than they thought. They described it as a scrape or scratch and it might have been, but if the bacteria was there it might have gotten deep enough to be in a low oxygen environment and spread.

 

Tetanus thrives in low oxygen environments (it doesn't have to be completely oxygen-free). Usually minor scrapes are not likely to become serious infections, but there are all kinds of reasons that something can become a low oxygen environment. Airing out a wound is a good idea but it won't cure an infection if it's already occurred.

 

These parents now believe that they should have vaccinated their child. They feel there is too much misinformation about vaccines and they regret their decision not to vaccinate. On the positive side, it sounds like the child will survive. According to the CDC, Tetanus leads to death in about 1 in 10 cases.

Here's the deal, vaccinated people get tetanus too, strange we didn't hear anything in the media about this fully vaccinated 14 year old boy:

 

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/120/5/e1355.full.html

 

 

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His immunization schedule was up-to-date with initially 3 vaccinations in the first year of life and a tetanus booster 1 year before presentation. Communication with the patient's doctor and with the manufacturer of the vaccine revealed that the booster was within the vaccine's expiration date and that there were no reports of reduced quality of that production lot.

 

In some cases of tetanus there is no obvious portal of entry, the smaller wounds tend to be more dangerous because people don't clean they out properly.

 

People can believe what they want, but believing a person is completely protected from tetanus from a vaccine, is fool's gold.


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Frankly, I don't like this kind of article. I feel for the boy and the family but the flip-flopping from tetanus to whooping cough is like comparing apples to oranges. Or was that just a filler?

We don't learn anything really about the wound itself or how it was treated. 
 


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From the article, it sounds like there was a delay in seeking medical care. I feel for the boy and his parents, but I question them for a few reasons. Why jump straight into vaxing for everything after deciding to vax for nothing- it sounds like fear, not information is the main reason for their decisions. Also, I cannot imagine my child with numbness in his face that resembles someone who had a stroke, yet waiting to see the doctor.

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"Of course we didn't think it was too serious, it was just a little cut but a couple of days later he started getting symptoms like a stroke on the side of his face," Mr Williams says.

"A couple of days later during the night he started to get cramps across his face. His face would contort and he was in a lot of pain."

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The article is obvious Pr*paganda, but it did affect me, then the next day my 3 year old got a scratch. But when I looked online @ lists of injuries known to produce tetanus, 'scratch' was not on anyone's list. So I decided not to sweat it, and he is fine. If I had brought him in, likely they would NOT have given me the TIG, they would have just given me a DTaP, which wouldn't really do anything if he had already contracted Tetanus. They would have given him DTaP because they would have known it was a very outside, unlikely risk, and the AAFP says to just give DTaP in those situations.

 

My oldest got one DTaP that he reacted to severely, but I do feel a little bit more comfortable because of that one shot.

 

However, these parents sound like really fear based yahoos. They endangered their other children by their rapid catch up schedule, according to the article they caught their other children up all in one day! So which is it? Shots are so risky you don't get them @ all? Or they are safe enough to admin ALL shots in one day?

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