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Thoughts on this blog post and the autism/vaccination correlation? 

 

http://blog.naturalhealthyconcepts.com/2013/06/18/how-to-treat-or-possibly-cure-autism-naturally-with-a-functional-medicine-approach/

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Wow!

 

Autism can be cured by taking some supplements and changing your diet! Better let the world know that autism isn't so bad after all! It's no worse than mono!

 

Not to mention, it was written by Ashley Steincrinck! Former graphic design specialist for a dental supply company and Director of sales for a Marriott hotel! Now guess what she does? She works in the health field as a Marketing Specialist for Natural Healthy Concepts! 

 

Oh also don't forget to click on the links at the top of the page to buy all these magical supplements and vitamins they have on sale. That they have no reason whatsoever for promoting. None at all, it's completely legit! 

 

Sorry but these kinds of people make me sick. Exploiting poor parents who have children with autism into buying some vitamins and  giving them false hope. Despicable. 


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I'm happy that it is possible for many kids to recover from autism. I'm glad that there are doctors who are sharing how they do this. And I'm grateful for the non-medical professionals, such as writers, who get this information out to the public.

 

The article did not make it sound easy, by any means. Recovery usually is very difficult, and takes a lot of dedication, and unfortunately, money. Many kids cannot recover, but usually at least something can be done to improve their lives, such as decreasing bowel pain. Decreasing pain helps with many autistic behaviors.

 

As far as the vaccine connection, I agree that vaccines aren't the only thing. A combination of many things leads to autism. But many of those things are very difficult, or impossible to avoid. Vaccines are very easy to avoid. And fortunately, usually even the most susceptible kids can avoid autism if they avoid vaccines. Of course there are exceptions. I've heard of unvaccinated autistic kids. But I think it is rare. Now where is that vaccinated/unvaccinated study?

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Apparently, "teacozy" does not understand that children with toxic levels of mercury and severe food allergies need to be treated for those medical issues--and that treating those issues may result in reversal of neurological damage.

We treat children with lead poisoning, and we don't feed children with peanut allergies peanut butter. We don't decry any effort to identify and treat their medical issues as "despicable," nor do we pretend that any efforts to treat lab-diagnosed vitamin deficiencies is unnecessary for non-autistic people.

Apparently, "teacozy" does not understand that the issues faced by autistic children--mercury poisoning and food allergies/intolerances--need to be identified and treated, just as they are in non-autistic people.

We see this lack of understanding quite often in people who have no experience with autism. We also see them change their mind very quickly when it's THEIR child whose blood work shows gluten antibodies and vitamin deficiencies.
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Oh yes, that's me! The proponent of child suffering! Clearly, based on my response, I want children to die and I also want to go and force feed children with peanut allergies peanut butter. 

 

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Oh yes, that's me! The proponent of child suffering! Clearly, based on my response, I want children to die and I also want to go and force feed children with peanut allergies peanut butter. 

 

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OK, so you don't think that kids with peanut allergies should eat peanut butter. But what about avoiding other allergens (part of changing the diet). Do you think that's okay? Do you have anything to contribute regarding any specific treatments discussed in the article?

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OK, so you don't think that kids with peanut allergies should eat peanut butter. But what about avoiding other allergens (part of changing the diet). Do you think that's okay? Do you have anything to contribute regarding any specific treatments discussed in the article?

 

I'm not sure what you mean by "do you think that's okay?". I don't necessarily think they will do harm to a child with autism or make gut issues worse,  but I do not believe in homeopathic treatment.  I may be in the minority on this one but I do not think the scientific literature supports it. 

 

But I absolutely do not think that vitamins and organic food cure autism and that trying to tell vulnerable parents that it does in order to sell said vitamins and supplements from your website is abhorrent.  If vitamins and organic food cured autism, we would know about it.  Plain and simple. There is not some "secret cure" that the government isn't telling us about.  I generally believe that doctors/CDC/WHO have our best interest at heart and are not keeping the cure from autism from us just to watch children suffer.  

 

Call me crazy I suppose...

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I doubt that anyone has fully recovered from autism from just vitamins and organic food. And I didn't see the article suggesting that. 

 

The article also didn't mention anything about homeopathic treatments.

 

There is also nothing secret about how parents and doctors are helping kids with autism recover. It would be pretty difficult to keep such things a secret these days.

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I doubt that anyone has recovered from autism from just vitamins and organic food. And I didn't see the article suggesting that. 

 

The article also didn't mention anything about homeopathic treatments.

 

There is also nothing secret about how parents and doctors are helping kids with autism recover. It would be pretty difficult to keep such things a secret these days.

 

The title of the blog post is " How to treat or cure autism naturally with a function medicine approach"  and the first thing on the page is a picture of a child with the words " How some kids have been cured of autism" 

 

Then later on in the blog post is says "One boy in particular that Dr. Hyman has cured from autism all together is named Sam." 

 

Later it says "The good news is, after 10 months of treating Sam based on his biochemical individuality, he lost his diagnosis of autism and he was cured."

 

It also says "Because you won’t cure autism with the help of the conventional medical community that provokes it, denies it and covers up the correlations."  So the author apparently believes the medical community knows that this cures autism, but chooses to "cover it up" to watch children suffer I suppose?  This is why I can't take articles like this seriously. Come on now, this is the definition of a conspiracy theory. 

 

Again it says "Some advice that was right? Since, Sam was cured 10 months later." 

 

I do not believe any of this "cures" autism and if it did we would know about it. 


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I do not believe any of this "cures" autism and if it did we would know about it. 

 

"We" already know about it. But many people do not want to know.

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I do not believe any of this "cures" autism and if it did we would know about it. 

Then you are not well read enough on the subject. If you rely on mainstream sources, that tells us autism is a social behavioral problem as described by the menu of symptoms described in the DSM, then you would have trouble believing the many thousands of parents who have recovered their children. Autism is a disease process and medical science has the scientific measurements that show these children are very, very sick. This is what the above article is about.

 

But as they say..... there are none so blind as those who do not wish to see.

 

And if they do look, the anwer points to the most holy of holies - vaccination

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Then you are not well read enough on the subject. If you rely on mainstream sources, that tells us autism is a social behavioral problem as described by the menu of symptoms described in the DSM, then you would have trouble believing the many thousands of parents who have recovered their children. Autism is a disease process and medical science has the scientific measurements that show these children are very, very sick. This is what the above article is about.

 

But as they say..... there are none so blind as those who do not wish to see.

 

And if they do look, the anwer points to the most holy of holies - vaccination

 

You also know there are parents out there that claims that their child's autism improved significantly just one day after going to see shamans in Mongolia right? I mean they made a whole documentary on it.  They also said their child spoke his first word one day while riding a horse.  Sometimes, a child's symptoms get better over time. I do not believe that the Mongolian shamans had anything to do with it. I'm sorry I just don't.  I also do not believe that there is some conspiracy in the medical field to cover up potential cures for autism.  


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I'm not sure what you mean by "do you think that's okay?". I don't necessarily think they will do harm to a child with autism or make gut issues worse,  but I do not believe in homeopathic treatment.  I may be in the minority on this one but I do not think the scientific literature supports it. 

But I absolutely do not think that vitamins and organic food cure autism and that trying to tell vulnerable parents that it does in order to sell said vitamins and supplements from your website is abhorrent.  If vitamins and organic food cured autism, we would know about it.  Plain and simple. There is not some "secret cure" that the government isn't telling us about.  I generally believe that doctors/CDC/WHO have our best interest at heart and are not keeping the cure from autism from us just to watch children suffer.  

Call me crazy I suppose...

Clearly, you have absolutely no experience with autism, nor have you bothered to read the studies and case reports regarding autistic children, intestinal disorders, and the resulting vitamin deficiencies, autoimmune issues and neurological disorders so many autistic children face.

In fact, you don't even know what homeopathy is.

Treating lab-confirmed vitamin deficiencies with the appropriate vitamin supplements, and omitting gluten and casein from the diet of a child with sensitivities to those proteins IS NOT HOMEOPATHIC TREATMENT.

Neither is avoiding foods contaminated with herbicides, fungicides, pesticides, antibiotics, and hormone. Autistic children may be more prone to environmental sensitivities. Organic foods may indeed be helpful to someone with such sensitivities.

So, let's see. You've demonstrated that you have zero understanding of the medical issues that cause/exacerbate the neurological issues of a significant subgroup of autistic children, yet you've attacked and demeaned parents of children with vaccine reactions/food sensitivities, and you've demeaned people who question/criticize vaccines,

you've demonstrated that you have zero understanding of homeopathy, but stated that you don't believe in it.

Nice.
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You also know there are parents out there that claims that their child's autism improved significantly just one day after going to see shamans in Mongolia right? I mean they made a whole documentary on it.  They also said their child spoke his first word one day while riding a horse.  Sometimes, a child's symptoms get better over time. I do not believe that the Mongolian shamans had anything to do with it. I'm sorry I just don't.  I also do not believe that there is some conspiracy in the medical field to cover up potential cures for autism.  

This is totally offensive. 

 

You are right there is no conspiracy, there is plenty of information for those who seek on how to recover a children from autistism. It isn't easy, and every child has different issues and requires individual protocols. 

 

Thank goodness there are people like the doctor in the link and the parents, like the Thinking Moms who are sharing the many successes that can be had in recovering these vaccine injured children. To pretend and deny that these kids can be helped is criminal.

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So the author apparently believes the medical community knows that this cures autism, but chooses to "cover it up" to watch children suffer I suppose?  This is why I can't take articles like this seriously. Come on now, this is the definition of a conspiracy theory. 

No, the author believes (as he stated) that the conventional medical community unintentionally provoked the autism, and, after the fact, denied it, and covered up the correlations.

This is the definition of denial on the part of the medical community.

We've seen this many times before. Think of tobacco, of thalidomide, of Vioxx, of Lipitor, etc. every time, there has been a huge push from those who profited, to deny, and to cover up.

No, the doctors aren't keeping the cure from us to watch children suffer, any more than they did for tobacco-induced lung cancers, thalidomide-induced birth defects, or Vioxx-induced heart attacks. Just as before, they are in denial that something they recommended, to the best of their knowledge and with the best of intentions, has resulted in such widespread harm.

More and more doctors and nurses are daring to speak out--risking their careers to do so. And "teacozy" is providing an excellent example of the kind of blind denial shown by many in the medical community, and how very vicious people can get.
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"So, let's see. You've demonstrated that you have zero understanding of the medical issues that cause/exacerbate the neurological issues of a significant subgroup of autistic children, yet you've attacked and demeaned parents of children with vaccine reactions/food sensitivities, and you've demeaned people who question/criticize vaccines," 

 

I don't believe I have "demeaned" people in this thread that question/criticize vaccines.  

 

Again, like I said earlier, we would know if there was a cure to autism as simple as changing diet and giving vitamins and supplements. I am not saying that there are not people with deficiencies that benefit from vitamins/minerals.  I have severe anemia (I've even had to have blood transfusions because of it) and take iron pills everyday. But no I do not think that anything that was in the article linked cures autism and I do not believe, as the article implied, that there is a mass cover up by the medical establishment to keep children from beneficial treatments for autism. 

 

Saying "people on the internet said..." is not science or evidence. Anyone can say anything on the internet.  For all you know all those people that say their child got better after taking vitamins and eating organic food run a blog that sells vitamins and pays people to come up with these anecdotal stories.  I could write a story tomorrow about how my child had autism and was magically cured after 9 months of taking X vitamin and changing X about their diet. 

 

Now the neat thing about people that are pro science is that if a study came out tomorrow that was double blind that had, say, 10,000 children with autism and they treated half of them with vitamins and a diet change and the other half with placebo vitamins and after a year the 5 thousand that got the real vitamins and diet change were medically cured of autism, I would change my mind.  


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Wow!

 

Autism can be cured by taking some supplements and changing your diet! Better let the world know that autism isn't so bad after all! It's no worse than mono!

 

 

Ah, you failed to read the pro-vax handbook.  Better luck next time.  

 

The pro-vax handbook clearly states that autism isn't so bad. It says this because it believes vaccines are wonderful, and g-d forbid anyone questions using them over fears of autism (And hey!  Autism isn't that bad anyways!)

 

All of us people whining about looking into research to prevent, cure, treat or help people with autism have it wrong because autism is just a wonderful brain difference!  

 

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Now the neat thing about people that are pro science is that if a study came out tomorrow that was double blind that had, say, 10,000 children with autism and they treated half of them with vitamins and a diet change and the other half with placebo vitamins and after a year the 5 thousand that got the real vitamins and diet change were medically cured of autism, I would change my mind. 

 

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Where are the double blind studies of vaccinated vs. unvaccinated children given real placebos instead of other vaxxes? Answer: There are none because it would be unethical to withhold vaccines from children.

 

But by all means demand it within any other study and refuse to accept the testimonies of the many, many parents who have helped improve their children's lives through methods which haven't yet been subject to such rigorous testing.

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Where are the double blind studies of vaccinated vs. unvaccinated children given real placebos instead of other vaxxes? Answer: There are none because it would be unethical to withhold vaccines from children.

 

But by all means demand it within any other study and refuse to accept the testimonies of the many, many parents who have helped improve their children's lives through methods which haven't yet been subject to such rigorous testing.

 

Are you saying that it would be unethical to give children placebo vitamins for a year? Are you really equating that with not giving a child their vaccines? Wow. 


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Ah, you failed to read the pro-vax handbook.  Better luck next time.  

 

The pro-vax handbook clearly states that autism isn't so bad. It says this because it believes vaccines are wonderful, and g-d forbid anyone questions using them over fears of autism (And hey!  Autism isn't that bad anyways!)

 

All of us people whining about looking into research to prevent, cure, treat or help people with autism have it wrong because autism is just a wonderful brain difference!  

 

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This is exactly what I was thinking. I was like, "What, she's saying autism is bad? What's going on here?" But of course. It was failure to read the pro-vax handbook. lol.

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Are you saying that it would be unethical to give children placebo vitamins for a year? Are you really equating that with not giving a child their vaccines? Wow.

 

Not really saying anything about the ethics of either one. Just pointing out the double standard.

 

And there is never going to be a double blind study of 10,000 autistic children getting vitamins and a diet change because the methods these parents are using to help recover their children are based on child-specific symptoms and not the autism label.

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Sorry you guys feel like the medical community does not take autism seriously. That has not been my experience, and there have been tons of articles on CNN about the prevalence of autism. 

 

My doctor, along with all my friend's doctors, have us fill out forms and questionares before every appointment to make sure our children do not have any possible autism symptoms. They  know that catching it early provides the best outcome and our doctor is very vigilant about looking for autism signs and symptoms. 

 

I am not sure what you guys mean by insinuating that the medical profession does not take autism seriously. 

 

"Not really saying anything about the ethics of either one. Just pointing out the double standard." 

 

Not giving children vitamins for a year is not the same thing as not giving thousands of children their vaccines. I am sorry but they do not even compare in how they could effect the individual child and society. So I guess we will have to agree to disagree on that front.  


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Sorry you guys feel like the medical community does not take autism seriously. That has not been my experience, and there have been tons of articles on CNN about the prevalence of autism. 

My doctor, along with all my friend's doctors, have us fill out forms and questionares before every appointment to make sure our children do not have any possible autism symptoms. They  know that catching it early provides the best outcome and our doctor is very vigilant about looking for autism signs and symptoms. 


I am not sure what you guys mean by insinuating that the medical profession does not take autism seriously. 


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Not giving children vitamins for a year is not the same thing as not giving thousands of children their vaccines. I am sorry but they do not even compare in how they could effect the individual child and society. So I guess we will have to agree to disagree on that front.  

There is a subset of children with autism who also had severe reactions to vaccines, resulting in intestinal disorders, autoimmune issues, heavy metals toxicity, and vitamin deficiencies--all documented.

Most of the mainstream medical community is in such denial, parents can't even get them to run the tests necessary to confirm or rule out such issues. Instead, they say (sounding quite like you, tea cozy), that such issues are a wild goose chase, and to just accept autism.

When parents do manage to get the tests run, they find that their autistic children actually have celiac disease or other inflammatory bowel disorders, food allergies or intolerances, juvenile rheumatoid arthritis, vitamin D deficiency, pernicious anemia (B12 deficiency), mercury toxicity, and many even test positive for Lyme disease.

Any one of these medical conditions can result in major neurological issues. Any one of them can cause severe pain. And parents of autistic children often report that their child is in pain, only to be told by their doctors, "Nonsense! That's just how autistic children behave!"

The autistic children whose above medical issues are treated are able to make enormous improvements. Yes, some of them are cured--their symptoms were caused entirely by one or more of these treatable medical conditions. Some are not cured, even if they are able to improve; their issues may have additional, unknown causes, or perhaps in their cases, the neurological damage is too severe or diagnosed too late to reverse.

Please take a look at http://www.karynseroussi.com/home.html.

I also suggest you read Special Diets For Special Kids by Lisa Lewis. Check our the reviews on Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Special-Diets-Kids-Volumes-Combined/dp/1935274120), and please note that its recommended by Stephen Edelson, PhD, Director of the Center For The Treatment Of Autism, among others.
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Not giving children vitamins for a year is not the same thing as not giving thousands of children their vaccines. I am sorry but they do not even compare in how they could effect the individual child and society. So I guess we will have to agree to disagree on that front.

 You're right, with-holding vitamin supplements from children with a proven vitamin deficiency would be unethical, especially compared to with-holding vaccines from children who are, in most cases, at little to no risk of catching the disease the vaccine targets, and if they do catch the disease, they'll probably be fine (obviously this varies from disease to disease).   Unfortunately, you seem to be a bit confused about ethics, and experimental design, etc...

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Sorry but these kinds of people make me sick. Exploiting poor parents who have children with autism into buying some vitamins and  giving them false hope. Despicable. 

 

This needs addressing as it comes up a lot.

 

I don't think the parents are being exploited. I give parents more credit than that. The vast majority of parents of kids with autism know the mainstream medical community thinks the biomedical approach to treating autism is bunk.  They know it, and they try it anyways because the independent research they have done has shown otherwise, they know someone personally who made significant gains with a biomedical approach, etc, etc.  In short - they think it is worth a shot.  

 

While I doubt the blog is your cup of tea, I invite you to read a  little bit of the Thinking Moms Revolution.  The women who write it are clearly articulate and intelligent (even if you disagree with their message) - and many of them are trying to help their children through biomedical approaches.  Do you really think they are just poor gullible parents?  

 

http://thinkingmomsrevolution.com/read-the-blog-here/

 

I am not going to further comment on the biomedical approach (I know enough about it to know I know very little, lol).

 

I am not keen on articles such as the one in the OP.  I think any article that also sells product (Ritalin, anti-depressants, vitamins) should be taken with a grain of salt.  There is too much conflict of interest to be certain the article is presenting the ideas fairly and impartially.  I am sure there are some articles, discussions, studies etc of biomedical approaches that are not tied to selling vitamins.  

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I haven't had a chance to read it yet, but this looks interesting... http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16310594 - on vitamin b 12 deficiency and brain function

 

If you google "picture of a brain with cerebral atrophy caused by vitamin b12 deficiency" the first link to come up should be a pdf from research gate which is the article the authors of the study published in Journal of the Japanese Society of Neurology. Sorry can't get a direct link to it.


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"While I doubt the blog is your cup of tea, I invite you to read a  little bit of the Thinking Moms Revolution.  The women who write it are clearly articulate and intelligent (even if you disagree with their message) - and many of them are trying to help their children through biomedical approaches.  Do you really think they are just poor gullible parents?"

 

Honestly, I really do. Have you heard of Jim Laidler? He was an educated doctor. He was absolutely convinced these treatments helped his son. He helped run conferences, and even did speaking engagements with Wakefield. He said (and still says) his son showed improvements after they started the treatments from ages 3-4. He did the gluten free diets, the vitamins, minerals, chelation treatments, everything.   This is his blog http://www.autism-watch.org/about/bio2.shtml

 

In it, he describes how he was so easily duped by it all. He likened the hope that these parents have from these treatments to addictive drugs.  He says

 

"After years of “supplements,” restrictive diets and “unconventional” therapies (too many to list), our boys were improved, but were a long way from being cured. We were forced to carry their special foods with us whenever we left the house, lest a molecule of gluten or casein catapult them back to where we had begun. We were nearly broke, despite both of us having well-paying jobs, and we were on the verge of exhaustion. The beginning of the end was when my wife, suspecting that some of the “supplements” we were giving our older son weren’t having any effect, stopped them all—without telling me. I saw no difference, even after two months (when she finally told me). We had been chasing our tails, increasing this and decreasing that in response to every change in his behavior—and all the while his ups and downs had just been random fluctuation. My eyes began to open." 

 

In the next paragraph he says that on a trip to Disney World is when they stopped all of it except for speech and occupational therapy for both of their sons and saw that they continued to improve at the same rate-or faster, than before. 

 

And I guess this is my point. There are not any peer reviewed studies published in reputable journals that show that any of this makes a difference. There are natural fluctuations in children with autism and it has nothing to do with their diet. I have a younger cousin with autism and I saw him improve drastically with occupational and speech therapy. No vitamins or special diets. 

 

From the Autism Science Foundation : 

 

"Gluten Free-Casein Free (GFCF) Diet: Those who promote gluten (protein found in wheat, rye, and barley products) and casein (protein found in dairy products) free diets claim that children with autism have "leaky guts" that allow opioids to escape into the bloodstream and then travel to the brain and cause autistic behaviors. There is no evidence for this claim, and studies have found that compared to typically developing children, children with autism have no more opioids in their blood. Furthermore, children on the GFCF diet have been found to have lower bone density than controls, which could lead to osteoporosis. A large-scale study of the safety and efficacy of the GFCF diet indicated that children on the diet had similar outcomes to those who were not on the diet." 

 

There are a lot more on that site, if anyone wants to look.  

 

I really feel for parents that have children with autism, I am not an uncompassionate person and I love kids. I just think parents should stick with proven benefits like occupational therapy and not give false hope that these mostly untested therapies will cure their child. 

 

 

 
 

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teacozy…do you have kids?

 

If so do you think you are duped or gullible in your choices?

 

At the end of the day, I think it is "buyer beware" with any product and "own your own choices."

 

Autism Science foundation has strong ties to Paul Offitt, who is extremely far from impartial or unbiased. 

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I just think parents should stick with proven benefits like occupational therapy and not give false hope that these mostly untested therapies will cure their child.

 

When a child has a physiological symptom, chronic constipation for instance, and normally that symptom would be treated but because the child has been labeled with autism, the doctor chalks it up to being just the way they are, what exactly is OT going to do to fix that problem???


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teacozy…do you have kids?

 

If so do you think you are duped or gullible in your choices?

 

At the end of the day, I think it is "buyer beware" with any product and "own your own choices."

 

Autism Science foundation has strong ties to Paul Offitt, who is extremely far from impartial or unbiased. 

 

Yes I do. I have a son.  I don't feel duped or gullible but (knock on wood) he has never taken anything but Tylenol. Never had an infection or needed antibiotics, has never been to the ER and has only had mild colds or stomach viruses. 

 

If I was going to spend hundreds or even thousands of dollars on a treatment for my son, it would have to be well founded in the scientific literature that it would have a clear benefit. I would not just trust anecdotal stories or people that are trying sell me vitamins.  If I asked a Doctor where the peer reviewed research was on a certain intervention and his reply was “Evidence-based medicine is best because there’s an objective foundation that can’t be faked,” he said. “But if it’s a controversial topic it will not appear in a peer-reviewed journal.”  (http://www.texasobserver.org/autism-inc-the-discredited-science-shady-treatments-and-rising-profits-behind-alternative-autism-treatments/)  Then no, I absolutely would not give it to my child, especially if there was a risk of harm like chelation therapy which actually killed a child. 


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