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"Vaccination programs for children have prevented more than 100 million cases of serious contagious disease in the United States since 1924, according to a new study published in The New England Journal of Medicine.


Dr. Donald S. Burke, the dean of Pittsburgh’s graduate school of public health and an author of the medical journal article, said that a reasonable projection of prevented deaths based on known mortality rates in the disease categories would be three million to four million.

The scientists said their research should help inform the debate on the risks and benefits of vaccinating American children."


http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/11/27/the-vaccination-effect-100-million-cases-of-contagious-disease-prevented/

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It looks like your post might have been missed, so I'm bumping it up for attention. :bump: Anyone else read this article? What do you think?


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Well, one positive thing about this study is that it can no longer be argued that "there is no evidence that vaccines have saved millions of lives"  

 

Three to four million lives saved in one country in less than 100 years. Not too shabby if I do say so myself. :thumb 


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I can't read the article without subscribing. :(


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I can't read the article without subscribing. :(

really? I am not subscribed and I can read it.  Strange....


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I sent you the article via PM, be looking out for it :) 


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My local paper allows people to read a limited amount of articles for free.  I may have used up my allowance at NYT.


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Well, one positive thing about this study is that it can no longer be argued that "there is no evidence that vaccines have saved millions of lives"  

 

Three to four million lives saved in one country in less than 100 years. Not too shabby if I do say so myself. :thumb 

IIRC the study estimated number of lives saved using pre-vaccine numbers.  

 

According to the OP, vaccines have saved 3-4 lives per 100 cases, correct?

 

The only disease that had the prevalence rate and seriousness to cause such a high mortality rate is diptheria.  

 

It would be far more interesting if they broke it down by disease, but even then, some of it would be speculative. 

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The only disease that had the prevalence rate and seriousness to cause such a high mortality rate is diptheria.  

 

It would be far more interesting if they broke it down by disease, but even then, some of it would be speculative. 

 

For the 2010 calendar year, the researchers estimated the number of cases prevented for each disease:

  • Polio: 25,000
  • Measles: 900,000
  • Rubella: 84,000
  • Mumps: 270,000
  • Hepatitis A: 35,000
  • Diphtheria: 700,000
  • Pertussis: 350,000

Thats over 2 million diseases prevented in one year alone by vaccines. 

 

http://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/vaccinate-103-million-cases-diseases-averted-1924/

http://www.tycho.pitt.edu/data/level2.php

 


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You seem to have forgotten that correlation does not equal causation.

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You seem to have forgotten that correlation does not equal causation.

Yep. The above is pure fiction. But when correlation supports a belief, this can be conveniently ignored.

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