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I read a lot of criticism about certain pro vaccine doctors and websites and hear the phrase "follow the money..." quite a bit so I found it ironic that when the NVIC website was down several days ago this is what popped up....

 

 

And this isn't the first time this has been noticed, either.  Last month when NVIC was down...

 

 

Does this make NVIC a shill? 

 

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Teacozy,

 

The site maintenance photos could have been legit for Mercola's site and then someone put in the NVIC addy into the address bar and took the photo.  Easily done.  

 

Mercola has said in the past that he has partnered with NVIC and donated proceeds to NVIC on a charitable basis.  Is NVIC promoting Mercola's supplements specifically on their site?


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Teacozy,

 

The site maintenance photos could have been legit for Mercola's site and then someone put in the NVIC addy into the address bar and took the photo.  Easily done.  

 

Mercola has said in the past that he has partnered with NVIC and donated proceeds to NVIC on a charitable basis.  Is NVIC promoting Mercola's supplements specifically on their site?

 

Someone made a video, they expected that people would try to say it was photoshopped. 

 

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152208448991743

 

A ton of people saw it. I saw it.  The screen shot was posted with a direct link to nvic.com on several different facebook pages.  Heck, the site maintenance mercola message still pops up in my history when I put in "NVIC mer..." 

 


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Keying in nvic.org takes me to their website.  no problems.


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Keying in nvic.org takes me to their website.  no problems.

 

Yeah, this was from several days ago.  It's not down right now.  

 

NVIC responded to it, then deleted that response, and then changed the image to a generic "men at work" image not long after the link was posted on several pro vaccine pages. 

 

Wonder why they did that if they have nothing to hide?  Seems strange. 


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I don't see the issue.

 

Is Mercola trying to mandate his supplements?  If so, yah, there's an issue.

 

Is Mercola trying to mandate his supplements but shield himself from any liability?  If so, yah, there's an issue.

 

Is Mercola trying to mandate his supplements for the "greater good" knowing that some will be harmed?  If so, yah, there's an issue.

 

Is Mercola trying to mandate supplements made with known neurotoxins and declaring any adverse event a coincidence?  If so, yah there's an issue.

 

Otherwise, Apples and kumquats.  

 

That a non-profit org such as NVIC depends on sponsors to run their website, not such a shock.


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Pharmaceutical companies would make way more money if no one used vaccines and as a result millions more needed treating for VPDs. I should look up how many MMR vaccines they need to sell before making as much profit as a single hospital case of measles.

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I don't see the issue.

 

Is Mercola trying to mandate his supplements?  If so, yah, there's an issue.

 

Is Mercola trying to mandate his supplements but shield himself from any liability?  If so, yah, there's an issue.

 

Is Mercola trying to mandate his supplements for the "greater good" knowing that some will be harmed?  If so, yah, there's an issue.

 

Is Mercola trying to mandate supplements made with known neurotoxins and declaring any adverse event a coincidence?  If so, yah there's an issue.

 

Otherwise, Apples and kumquats.  

 

That a non-profit org such as NVIC depends on sponsors to run their website, not such a shock.

 

See threads like this from the INV forum http://www.mothering.com/community/t/1395996/voices-for-vaccines

 

Someone even uses the exact phrase "follow the money trail..."  in it! 

 

Apparently conflicts of interest only call into question one side's information.  That same logic doesn't seem to apply to the other side.  

 

In any case, V4V has responded to these claims before.  "To allay concerns about conflicts of interest, Voices For Vaccines does not accept donations from vaccine companies or the federal government."  http://www.voicesforvaccines.org/about/


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Pharmaceutical companies would make way more money if no one used vaccines and as a result millions more needed treating for VPDs. I should look up how many MMR vaccines they need to sell before making as much profit as a single hospital case of measles.

 

This was posted recently, a child's two day ER visit in which he was only treated for dehydration due to diarrhea from measles was over 14 thousand dollars. 

 

I can only imagine how much it would cost to treat a person hospitalized with pneumonia or encephalitis. 


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Apparently conflicts of interest only call into question one side's information.  That same logic doesn't seem to apply to the other side.  

 

Conflicts of interest affect both sides.  I rarely read on Mercola, and if I do I double check everything they say as I know they might be guilty of cherry picking the info they dole out: they are out to sell me stuff.  :wink

 

That being said, the conflicts of interest with regards to vaccines as they are mandated are worse.   Alternative medicine is buyer beware and there are no consequences if you choose not to use them.  If you choose not to vaccinate you can be a social pariah, may lose your job, may have your doctor on your case or have difficulty finding a doctor and may not be able to send your kids to school.  


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Pharmaceutical companies would make way more money if no one used vaccines and as a result millions more needed treating for VPDs. I should look up how many MMR vaccines they need to sell before making as much profit as a single hospital case of measles.

Sorry, but not buying it.

Vaccine/vaccine schedule->   asthma->inhalers, ER visits

                                         ->   diabetes-> insulin pumps, glucose checkers, ER visits, etc.

                                          ->   tics -> meds, etc

                                          ->  seizures -> meds, ER visits, etc.

                                          -> Guillain-Barre -> Corticosteroids, meds, etc

                                          -> Narcolepsy -> stimulants, anti-depressants

And this is the short list.

Waaaaaaaaaaay more money to be made by insults and injuries to the immune system.


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We've had this conversation before, Tea, and already established that when if comes to conflicts of interest, you simply cannot compare vaccine manufacturers to the natural supplement industry.

http://www.mothering.com/community/t/1391741/pro-vaxxers-talk-to-me-about-conflicts-of-interest

I have no quote feature, but here's one of my posts:

"If people refuse the MMR vaccine, Wakefield makes no money. Neither does Mercola, McCarthy, etc."

But other posters upthread have pretty much rebutted the idea better than I have.

You're also operating from the faulty premise that NVIC is an anti-vaccination organization that discourages everybody from ever vaccinating. Not exactly. From: http://www.nvic.org/nvic-archives/newsletter/untoldstory.aspx

"If you are pregnant, get tested for hepatitis B disease. If you are infected, your baby is a candidate for vaccination."

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Pharmaceutical companies would make way more money if no one used vaccines and as a result millions more needed treating for VPDs. I should look up how many MMR vaccines they need to sell before making as much profit as a single hospital case of measles.

 



This is not true.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101123545

"Several pharmaceutical companies made a conscious decision to chase and develop the vaccines market towards the end of the last decade, as it became clear that the traditional blockbuster drug treatment model for the industry was changing. Vaccines were seen as promising from a business perspective because they could be applied to huge swathes of the population, and because the economic case for payment could be made to governments. AstraZeneca, the U.K. pharmaceuticals giant, paid $15.6 billion for MedImmune, the U.S vaccines specialist, in 2007 to get a foothold in the vaccines market."

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This was posted recently, a child's two day ER visit in which he was only treated for dehydration due to diarrhea from measles was over 14 thousand dollars. 

 

I can only imagine how much it would cost to treat a person hospitalized with pneumonia or encephalitis. 

 

A $14,000, 2-day visit to the ER for "Dehydration due to diarrhea from measles" - - seriously, teacozy?

 

Funny, but according to the CDC, diarrhea doesn't seem to be a symptom of measles:  

 

"The symptoms of measles generally begin about 7-14 days after a person is infected, and include:

Measles RashImage of measles infection

Skin of a patient after 3 days of measles infection.

See Photos of Measles for additional images.

  • Blotchy rash
  • Fever
  • Cough
  • Runny nose
  • Red, watery eyes (conjunctivitis)
  • Feeling run down, achy (malaise)
  • Tiny white spots with bluish-white centers found inside the mouth (Koplik’s spots)

A typical case of measles begins with mild to moderate fever, cough, runny nose, red eyes, and sore throat. Two or three days after symptoms begin, tiny white spots (Koplik’s spots) may appear inside the mouth.

Three to five days after the start of symptoms, a red or reddish-brown rash appears. The rash usually begins on a person’s face at the hairline and spreads downward to the neck, trunk, arms, legs, and feet. When the rash appears, a person’s fever may spike to more than 104 degrees Fahrenheit.

After a few days, the fever subsides and the rash fades."

 

Nope, diarrhea is not listed as a symptom of measles.  In fact, it's not even listed as a rare complication.


(Insert swear words of your choice here)--if you have a seizure within a few hours of a vaccine, the provaxers insist that "correlation does not equal causation" and that it's a total coincidence, even if "seizure" is listed as a rare side effect on the package insert, and is known to be causally linked even weeks after the vaccine.

But apparently, a child with a measles diagnosis who also has diarrhea couldn't POSSIBLY have had diarrhea for some other reason, and it's all the fault of the deadly measles and those wicked anti-vaxxers.

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A $14,000, 2-day visit to the ER for "Dehydration due to diarrhea from measles" - - seriously, teacozy?

 

Funny, but according to the CDC, diarrhea doesn't seem to be a symptom of measles:  

 

"The symptoms of measles generally begin about 7-14 days after a person is infected, and include:

Measles RashImage of measles infection

Skin of a patient after 3 days of measles infection.

See Photos of Measles for additional images.

  • Blotchy rash
  • Fever
  • Cough
  • Runny nose
  • Red, watery eyes (conjunctivitis)
  • Feeling run down, achy (malaise)
  • Tiny white spots with bluish-white centers found inside the mouth (Koplik’s spots)

A typical case of measles begins with mild to moderate fever, cough, runny nose, red eyes, and sore throat. Two or three days after symptoms begin, tiny white spots (Koplik’s spots) may appear inside the mouth.

Three to five days after the start of symptoms, a red or reddish-brown rash appears. The rash usually begins on a person’s face at the hairline and spreads downward to the neck, trunk, arms, legs, and feet. When the rash appears, a person’s fever may spike to more than 104 degrees Fahrenheit.

After a few days, the fever subsides and the rash fades."

 

Nope, diarrhea is not listed as a symptom of measles.  In fact, it's not even listed as a rare complication.


(Insert swear words of your choice here)--if you have a seizure within a few hours of a vaccine, the provaxers insist that "correlation does not equal causation" and that it's a total coincidence, even if "seizure" is listed as a rare side effect on the package insert, and is known to be causally linked even weeks after the vaccine.

But apparently, a child with a measles diagnosis who also has diarrhea couldn't POSSIBLY have had diarrhea for some other reason, and it's all the fault of the deadly measles and those wicked anti-vaxxers.

 

Wrong.  Diarrhea is a known symptom of measles. 

 

"

Potential Complications

About 30% of measles cases develop one or more complications, including

  • Pneumonia, which is the complication that is most often the cause of death in young children.
  • Ear infections occur in about 1 in 10 measles cases and permanent loss of hearing can result.
  • Diarrhea is reported in about 8% of cases.

These complications are more common among children under 5 years of age and adults over 20 years old."   http://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/complications.html

 

"

Signs and Symptoms

 

Measles is associated with the following signs and symptoms:

  • Moderate-to-high fever
  • Conjunctivitis (red, irritated eyes)
  • Cough
  • Sore throat, hoarseness
  • Runny nose
  • Red spots with bluish white centers (called Koplik's spots) on the inside of the mouth
  • Red, blotchy, itchy rash, which begins on the face and then spreads
  • Enlarged lymph nodes
  • Rarely (1 in 1,000 cases), extreme drowsiness, seizure, or coma, suggesting involvement of the central nervous system
  • Gastrointestinal symptoms, including diarrhea, vomiting, and abdominal pain (these symptoms are less common)



Source: Measles | University of Maryland Medical Center http://umm.edu/health/medical/altmed/condition/measles#ixzz303kZUVe5 
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"Diarrhea. In the United States, 8% of all reported measles cases during 1987–2000 were complicated by diarrhea. Rates were higher in those <5 or >30 years old (table 2). Among hospitalized persons with measles in the United States, 30%–70% had diarrhea [73788889]."  http://jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/189/Supplement_1/S4.long

 

"

What are the symptoms of measles?

Once you are infected with the virus, the virus multiples in the back of your throat and in your lungs. It then spreads throughout your body. The following are the most common symptoms of measles:

  • A high temperature, sore eyes (conjunctivitis), and a runny nose usually occur first.
  • Small white spots usually develop inside the mouth a day or so later. These can persist for several days.
  • A harsh dry cough is usual.
  • Going off food, tiredness, and aches and pains are usual.
  • Diarrhoea and/or vomiting is common.
  • A red blotchy rash normally develops about 3-4 days after the first symptoms. It usually starts on the head and neck, and spreads down the body. It takes 2-3 days to cover most of the body. The rash often turns a brownish colour and gradually fades over a few days.
  • Children are usually quite unwell and miserable for 3-5 days. After this, the fever tends to ease, and then the rash fades. The other symptoms gradually ease and go."  http://www.patient.co.uk/health/Measles.htm

"Measles complications can include:

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Pharmaceutical companies would make way more money if no one used vaccines and as a result millions more needed treating for VPDs. I should look up how many MMR vaccines they need to sell before making as much profit as a single hospital case of measles.

 

Please tell us what expensive treatments there are for measles, mumps, chicken pox, whooping cough, rotavirus, and influenza?

For measles and mumps, there's not much to be done except wait it out.  A $4 bottle of calamine lotion and oatmeal baths help soothe the itch of chicken pox.

Whooping cough is treated with a $20 course of erythromycin. 

 

Rotavirus is treated with fluids, AND is easily avoided in developed countries since it's spread by contaminated feces.

 

The only treatment for influenza is Tamiflu, which is quite expensive--but which the Cochrane Review has called ineffective, so, like most "VPD's," (and like the common cold), you just wait it out.

 

Speaking of the common cold, have you been to the pharmacy lately?  Several shelves of different kinds of cold medicines, none of which cure the cold, but most of which motivate people to NOT wait out their colds, but to go to work and out-and-about to spread their germs...

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Wrong.  Diarrhea is a known symptom of measles. 

 

"

Potential Complications

About 30% of measles cases develop one or more complications, including

  • Pneumonia, which is the complication that is most often the cause of death in young children.
  • Ear infections occur in about 1 in 10 measles cases and permanent loss of hearing can result.
  • Diarrhea is reported in about 8% of cases.

These complications are more common among children under 5 years of age and adults over 20 years old."   http://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/complications.html

 

"

Signs and Symptoms

 

Measles is associated with the following signs and symptoms:

  • Moderate-to-high fever
  • Conjunctivitis (red, irritated eyes)
  • Cough
  • Sore throat, hoarseness
  • Runny nose
  • Red spots with bluish white centers (called Koplik's spots) on the inside of the mouth
  • Red, blotchy, itchy rash, which begins on the face and then spreads
  • Enlarged lymph nodes
  • Rarely (1 in 1,000 cases), extreme drowsiness, seizure, or coma, suggesting involvement of the central nervous system
  • Gastrointestinal symptoms, including diarrhea, vomiting, and abdominal pain (these symptoms are less common)



Source: Measles | University of Maryland Medical Center http://umm.edu/health/medical/altmed/condition/measles#ixzz303kZUVe5 
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"Diarrhea. In the United States, 8% of all reported measles cases during 1987–2000 were complicated by diarrhea. Rates were higher in those <5 or >30 years old (table 2). Among hospitalized persons with measles in the United States, 30%–70% had diarrhea [73788889]."  http://jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/189/Supplement_1/S4.long

 

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I want you to prove that it's a symptom of measles.    With 10% of the population having gluten intolerance, where diarrhea is a typical symptom, the 8% of measles-sufferers who had diarrhea might have had diarrhea from eating gluten, for all we know.  Or they might have had upset stomachs from being given ibuprofen, which was not around back when most of us or our parents had measles.

Correlation is not causation.

 

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"Diarrhea. In the United States, 8% of all reported measles cases during 1987–2000 were complicated by diarrhea. Rates were higher in those <5 or >30 years old (table 2). Among hospitalized persons with measles in the United States, 30%–70% had diarrhea [73788889]."  

 

Hospital-acquired  diarrhea is so common, there have been studies on it:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1906497

Hospital-acquired diarrhea in adults: a prospective case-controlled study in Mexico.

Hospital-acquired infection rates are extremely high.

http://www.thecochranelibrary.com/details/collection/5163721/Hospital-acquired-infection.html

Recent systematic reviews have estimated hospital-wide prevalence of HAIs in high-income countries at 7.6% and in low and middle-income countries at 10.1%

 

And since most antibiotics seem to have diarrhea as the #1 side effect, you need to rule out antibiotic-induced infection in anyone who is hospitalized with any disease before you assume that the diarrhea is a new symptom of a disease whose prevailing definition has never included diarrhea.

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I want you to prove that it's a symptom of measles.    With 10% of the population having gluten intolerance, where diarrhea is a typical symptom, the 8% of measles-sufferers who had diarrhea might have had diarrhea from eating gluten, for all we know.  Or they might have had upset stomachs from being given ibuprofen, which was not around back when most of us or our parents had measles.

Correlation is not causation.

 

 

What do you mean "prove"?   You said it wasn't a listed symptom and it is.   Eight percent have diarrhea. 

 

Here is a study http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1995722


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I want you to prove that it's a symptom of measles.    With 10% of the population having gluten intolerance, where diarrhea is a typical symptom, the 8% of measles-sufferers who had diarrhea might have had diarrhea from eating gluten, for all we know.  Or they might have had upset stomachs from being given ibuprofen, which was not around back when most of us or our parents had measles.

Correlation is not causation.

 

 

According to the Patient UK site:

Measles is commonly accompanied by diarrhoea due to secondary bacterial or protozoal infections. This is particularly significant in malnourished individuals.


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According to the Patient UK site:

Measles is commonly accompanied by diarrhoea due to secondary bacterial or protozoal infections. This is particularly significant in malnourished individuals.

 

Of course it's particularly significant in malnourished individuals.   Dying from diarrhea is not common in industrialized countries in large part because dehydration is easily treated in hospitals with IV fluids.   Diarrhea kills millions of children in third world countries, so it is a significant side effect in those areas. 

 

I'm not arguing that it's a particularly dangerous or severe complication of measles for children in the US, but it is one.  Which is the point I was making. 


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It is always wise to follow the money, whatever the case may be. I hope you follow this advice when researching vaccines.


 
 
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I agree.

And I realise the majority of VPD cases may be rather cheap to treat (although still could be more expensive than their vaccine). The less common serious complications of even the most common VPDs however must be very expensive to treat and surely make a lot of money for the pharmaceutical companies.

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I think whether pharmaceutical companies make more money from vaccines or complications from vaccines is a tricky question and will vary by vaccine.

 

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 rotavirus in the USA.

 

How many cases of rotavirus in the USA requiring medication would we expect to see if the rotavirus vaccine did not exist?  What would be the cost of the medication in such a scenario?  Who produces the medication - are there numerous companies and the profits would be spread around, or is there more of a monopoly - as it is with the rotavirus vaccine?

 

Ask the same question for all vaccines and diseases.

 

Diseases have a lot of variables.  We cannot really know how many cases of xyz we would have if there were no vaccines, nor can we really know what the complication rate would be.  Many diseases are cyclical - some years there are lots of measles, for example, and some years there is very few.  

 

Not all of the financial debate comes down to money.  Companies like steady income streams - vaccines are a steady income stream.  Diseases, given their variables, can be less steady.  A bird in hand is worth more than one in the bush and all that.  


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See threads like this from the INV forum http://www.mothering.com/community/t/1395996/voices-for-vaccines

Someone even uses the exact phrase "follow the money trail..."  in it! 

Apparently conflicts of interest only call into question one side's information.  That same logic doesn't seem to apply to the other side.  

In any case, V4V has responded to these claims before.  "To allay concerns about conflicts of interest, Voices For Vaccines does not accept donations from vaccine companies or the federal government."  http://www.voicesforvaccines.org/about/

Actually the blog post referenced in INV brings forward a whole new set of charges to which V4V hasn't responded.

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This was posted recently, a child's two day ER visit in which he was only treated for dehydration due to diarrhea from measles was over 14 thousand dollars. 

I can only imagine how much it would cost to treat a person hospitalized with pneumonia or encephalitis. 

Did the drug company pocket that entire 14K? We're talking about the cost of pharmaceutical products in each scenario, not the full cost of hospitalization. The latter makes money for the hospital, not Merck or Pfizer.

I did address the pharmacy costs of vaxxing vs. VTD treatment in post 13.

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Did the drug company pocket that entire 14K? We're talking about the cost of pharmaceutical products in each scenario, not the full cost of hospitalization. The latter makes money for the hospital, not Merck or Pfizer.

I did address the pharmacy costs of vaxxing vs. VTD treatment in post 13.

 

Hospitals grossly inflate healthcare bills. The whole healthcare system is f*ed up.

 

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Rotavirus is treated with fluids, AND is easily avoided in developed countries since it's spread by contaminated feces.

 

This is not true in my experience.  My daughter had it and we live in the US.  A good friend's daughter was hospitalized at age 4 to get IV fluids because she came down with such a severe case.  My daughter was in daycare at the time, but hers never went to daycare.  I think "easily avoided" would require never coming into contact with other children at all. 

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See threads like this from the INV forum http://www.mothering.com/community/t/1395996/voices-for-vaccines

 

Someone even uses the exact phrase "follow the money trail..."  in it! 

 

Apparently conflicts of interest only call into question one side's information.  That same logic doesn't seem to apply to the other side.  

 

In any case, V4V has responded to these claims before.  "To allay concerns about conflicts of interest, Voices For Vaccines does not accept donations from vaccine companies or the federal government."  http://www.voicesforvaccines.org/about/

Sorry if I have this wrong Teacozy, but I thought you were for vaccination.  Thanks for the link to the thread on the I'm Not Vaccinating Board.

On that thread they do link to the Thinking Mom's Revolution page where they clearly outline that several members of V4V do have a relationship to pharma.

http://thinkingmomsrevolution.com/the-ties-that-bind/

 

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So let’s recap here, because it gets a little bit confusing:  VFV, a nonprofit organization, is apparently a subsidiary of an organization called “The Task Force for Global Health, Inc.” (“TFGH”), which is itself a subsidiary of Global Health Solutions (“GHS”).  The Director of VFV is Dr. Alan Hinman, a man with strong CDC ties.

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