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Old 06-13-2014, 07:15 AM
 
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In the US the first doses of the vaccine are given at age two months. In some other countries the first dose comes at three months.

The current strategy is to vaccinate women during pregnancy in an attempt to imitate the immunity that most mothers used to have naturally. Since it is well known that whatever immune response they can provoke with the vaccine doesn't last, the recommendation is to give the vaccine during EVERY pregnancy.

Scary, since studies of outcomes are few and far between and also short-term.

Just to clarify the reasons behind the pregnancy recommendations.
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Newborns are not too young to be immunized, unless the child's mom is a vaccine refuser:

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/...gnancy-hcp.htm
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There are currently no pertussis vaccines licensed or recommended for newborns at birth.
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Isn't there another option (trigger warning).

3. Get such a bed case of whooping cough as a small child or infant you cough yourself to death. Benefit: you don't spread pertussis.
Another option would be to get the vaccine at two months of age (or earlier as Tadamsmar recommends) and increase your risk of developing asthma. Benefit: if you don't die of an asthmatic episode you will develop quite the inhaler collection. Although being an asthmatic then makes you more vulnerable to pertussis. All aboard the merry-go-round.

http://www.aafa.org/display.cfm?id=9&sub=42

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The death rate for children under 19 years old has increased by nearly 80% percent since 1980.
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Among children ages 5 to 17, asthma is the leading cause of school absences from a chronic illness. It accounts for an annual loss of more than 14 million school days per year (approximately 8 days for each student with asthma) and more hospitalizations than any other childhood disease. It is estimated that children with asthma spend an nearly 8 million days per year restricted to bed.
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Newborns are not too young to be immunized, unless the child's mom is a vaccine refuser:

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/...gnancy-hcp.htm
We have virtually no data showing immunisation in pregnancy of mothers against pertussis prevent infants from getting pertussis. It is all theoretical at this point.

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We have virtually no data showing immunisation in pregnancy of mothers against pertussis prevent infants from gettin pertussis. It is all theoretical at the this point.
another opportunity for babies in the womb to be guinea pigs for the benefit of? If it doesn't damage the baby and it does prevent pertussis, great! But we sure don't know how this is all going to work out in the long run and I don't trust the current people in charge to look hard for any problems.
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I just posted this in another thread:

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Moreover, an ongoing CDC investigation suggests that, like the childhood vaccine, the adult Tdap booster lasts only a few years at most. Yet with the exception of childbearing women, who are advised to get the booster during every pregnancy, Tdap is licensed only for one-time use in adults.
http://static.squarespace.com/static...0313spread.pdf
If you read the package inserts for both manufacturers of the TdaP, they say that :
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Adacel vaccine should be given to a pregnant woman only if clearly needed.
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There are no adequate and well-controlled studies in pregnant women. Because animal reproduction studies are not always predictive of human response, BOOSTRIX should be given to a pregnant woman only if clearly needed.
How can it be licensed for only a one time use in adults but be ok for each pregnancy? And how can they make the recommendation to vaccinate all pregnant women when the package inserts say ONLY IF CLEARLY NEEDED?
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