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Vaccines in pregnancy

This is what the CDC has to say about safety studies http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/vacci...cpregnant.htm#

I don't see anything about monitoring the health of the offspring long-term.
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Studies of several thousand pregnant women in scientific literature have assessed the safety of using the flu vaccine during pregnancy. These studies have shown no evidence of harm to pregnant women, to the unborn child (or fetus) or to newborns of vaccinated women. In addition, the Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA) and CDC’s routine monitoring of adverse events has not raised safety concerns.
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The studies aren't listed, so we can't easily find the studies they used and assess the quality of the research, but from the wording it sounds as though they don't look at the health of the children past the newborn stage, which I believe is 28 days?

There are an awful lot of developmental problems that won't be spotted in newborns.
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Here is a review of some of the studies by Suzanne Humphries http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/20...nne-humphries/

Her article also includes a discussion of original antigenic sin, which is very important when it comes to pertussis vaccines.

This one looks at another study, this time for influenza http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2012/02/29/3013/

Read the part about the "placebo" in this "controlled" study.
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Isn't the vaccine dose for an adult when given to a pregnant woman?

I do not believe that a woman is compensated for a miscarriage, nor is it reported to VAERS, nor is it considered that the vaccine caused the miscarriage.

No, there are no long term studies for the baby whose mother received a vaccine during pregnancy.

Pregnant women in some places and with some conditions have received flu vaccines for some time so this should have provided an opportunity for some kind of long term study on the children of these mothers.

That was quite the missed opportunity. I seems to me that the doctors and drug companies really do not care if the vaccines could injure a baby or mother or not during pregnancy. In the past decades, the pregnancies/mothers/babies were most probably high risk so the outcomes were probably not good anyway.

So the needles get pointed at a healthier population? Are mothers being told of the experimental nature of their treatment?
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A blast from the recent past on pertussis vaccine in pregnancy:

dtap in pregnancy - let's discuss for pregnant mothers
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A blast from the recent past on pertussis vaccine in pregnancy:

dtap in pregnancy - let's discuss for pregnant mothers
Thanks. All the studies so far look pretty feeble to me. And the recommendations came before the research. Great science.
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Yup. Shoot first, aim later. Not a great model for practicing medicine.
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The studies aren't listed, so we can't easily find the studies they used and assess the quality of the research, but from the wording it sounds as though they don't look at the health of the children past the newborn stage, which I believe is 28 days?

There are an awful lot of developmental problems that won't be spotted in newborns.
Once again hoping that no one catches on to their selective tendencies, this time that little age thing.....minor details!
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Yup. Shoot first, aim later. Not a great model for practicing medicine.
Excellent model if your main goal is to move a lot of product in a short period of time.
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