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#1 of 8 Old 07-17-2014, 02:22 PM - Thread Starter
 
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Tea said this on another forum, I would have addressed it there, but you know, I am not allowed

I will also say that while Tea's comment is the lastest I have seen, it is hardly the only I have seen. I am not trying to call her out in any way.

"I'm not sure why it seems like posts flagged by non vaccinating members seem to get removed so much more quickly than posts flagged by the pro vaccine members…" (Teacozy)

Things like this are said with some regularity, and I am not sure why non-vaxxers have not addressed it before (rumours that are allowed to lie unchecked are often assumed to be true) but here goes:

I do not think this is true.

I have been on numerous pms where non-vaxxers say the mods favour vaxxers. I have seen things I have flagged stay up for days. Sometimes it is a gray zone and I understand why a flagged post is not removed - the mod thinks it is acceptable. Sometimes it is clearly against the UAV, but it still stays up for days. Mods can move quickly or slowly - but I expect most of it comes down to mod availability.


I suspect the mods are very sensitive to criticism of favouritism and try hard (usually with success) to be impartial.

In any event, I am not trying to start anything - and I know this is all about perecpetion. I am just a tad unhappy about leaving what I see as a repeated unfair accusation hanging.
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The post I asked to be cleaned up was five months old. That is not quick. I only objected to ONE word. Nothing more.

I only reported a post because elsewhere on these many forums I saw a complaint about the words sheeple and woo, being offensive.

Honestly, I do not personally care, but rules are rules.

When I saw those forbidden words on that post, I reported it.

In my estimation, I do not report very often. I am sure the mods dis agree, but I am entitled ...
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I obviously see things differently.

Imagine a new pro vaccine members writes "I'm not pro vaccine, but I'm also not anti intelligence" and goes on a pro vaccine rant on your support forum and you explain that that is not allowed on the support forums and ask them to edit their post. Then imagine a regular pro vaccine member (like myself) posts on the same thread the next day complaining about some minor quibble a non vaxxer posted on the thread from months ago and then imagine a moderator comes on, and only addresses the minor quibble that the pro vax member brought up against the non vax member and ignores the post calling you anti-intelligent. Not only that, that same moderator goes onto a different thread and moderates a second non vaccine comment- still completely ignoring the flagged comment on the other thread. You don't think the non vaccinating members would be irritated?

This isn't the only example either. Take for instance the thread "Posting Guidelines for the Forums" where on 5/8 Taximom brings attention to a thread she didn't like in the VOS forum. Cynthia Mosher responds to it the next day on 5/9 and closes the thread. 5/13 that same "banned" article shows up on the INV forum and the pro vaccine members ask for clarification on why it's allowed to be there multiple times, bump the thread multiple times, and get no response until 5-21 (12 days later) when a moderator basically says they are still discussing. I bump it *again* 6/9 asking for an update with no response, and it is now 7/17 and there is still no response to the questions asked by the pro vaccine members. I did notice that the thread was *finally* taken down (I think) from the INV forum about a week ago. It took one day for the moderators to lock that same article on the VOS forum, and two months to lock it on the INV forum.

I'm not necessarily criticizing Cynthia Mosher because I understand she is really busy and has to respond and moderate all the forums, but this is an active and oftentimes heated forum and I think we need more active moderators here. If moderators are so busy that it takes them two months to respond, then I think it's clearly time to add some additional ones. Both pro and non vaccine, ideally. In other boards I participate in, the moderators of any specific forum are members who are active and post frequently (everyday just about) on said forum, and I think that makes more sense than the arrangement we have now on this forum.

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Learn not to take things personally and so seriously; use the ignore feature.
Hey, I'm not the one who made an entire thread addressing the issue.

I don't believe for one second that the non vaccine members wouldn't have an issue if a pro vaccine member went on a rant calling them anti intelligent and that rant was left on the INV forum for days and days.

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I don't believe for one second that the non vaccine members wouldn't have an issue if a pro vaccine member went on a rant calling them anti intelligent and that rant was left on the INV forum for days and days.


I am not saying you shouldn't be annoyed when a comment is left up that you find offensive. I am annoyed when nasty comments by pro-vaxxers are left up. I am saying it happens fairly frequently to non-vaxxers as well and is not a sign of bias - which was strongly implied, and has been implied before.
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Stay golden ladies. Someone said something you don't like and IT'S NOT FAIR!!!!!!!
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I obviously see things differently.

Imagine a new pro vaccine members writes "I'm not pro vaccine, but I'm also not anti intelligence" and goes on a pro vaccine rant on your support forum and you explain that that is not allowed on the support forums and ask them to edit their post. Then imagine a regular pro vaccine member (like myself) posts on the same thread the next day complaining about some minor quibble a non vaxxer posted on the thread from months ago and then imagine a moderator comes on, and only addresses the minor quibble that the pro vax member brought up against the non vax member and ignores the post calling you anti-intelligent. Not only that, that same moderator goes onto a different thread and moderates a second non vaccine comment- still completely ignoring the flagged comment on the other thread. You don't think the non vaccinating members would be irritated?

This isn't the only example either. Take for instance the thread "Posting Guidelines for the Forums" where on 5/8 Taximom brings attention to a thread she didn't like in the VOS forum. Cynthia Mosher responds to it the next day on 5/9 and closes the thread. 5/13 that same "banned" article shows up on the INV forum and the pro vaccine members ask for clarification on why it's allowed to be there multiple times, bump the thread multiple times, and get no response until 5-21 (12 days later) when a moderator basically says they are still discussing. I bump it *again* 6/9 asking for an update with no response, and it is now 7/17 and there is still no response to the questions asked by the pro vaccine members. I did notice that the thread was *finally* taken down (I think) from the INV forum about a week ago. It took one day for the moderators to lock that same article on the VOS forum, and two months to lock it on the INV forum.

I'm not necessarily criticizing Cynthia Mosher because I understand she is really busy and has to respond and moderate all the forums, but this is an active and oftentimes heated forum and I think we need more active moderators here. If moderators are so busy that it takes them two months to respond, then I think it's clearly time to add some additional ones. Both pro and non vaccine, ideally. In other boards I participate in, the moderators of any specific forum are members who are active and post frequently (everyday just about) on said forum, and I think that makes more sense than the arrangement we have now on this forum.
Interesting that you choose to describe the thread I reported as one that I "didn't like," rather than one that clearly broke the rules because the offending link was used in an abusive manner. You also left out the fact that the same topic was being discussed on the INV forum in the context of defending oneself and one's family against such abuse.

It would seem that you are more interested in shutting down discussion of abuse coming from one side, rather than in fairness.
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