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rise in oral hpv associated cancers

Not sure what to think of this:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/hpv-or...nada-1.4245987

The study is embedded in the article.

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Not sure what to think of this:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/hpv-or...nada-1.4245987

The study is embedded in the article.

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I'm not sure either. The evidence that the vaccine will actually prevent these cancers seems to be lacking, however. As with cervical cancer, it is a very big and expensive experiment.

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Well, I took a look at the study and the age of diagnosis is around 60 or so....thus it is very possible the people got HPV before the advent of the vaccine.

Still, the vaccine has been in Canada for 10 years - even if primarily in females. Shouldn't we see some drop off in cancers? Less HPV in women should lead to less HPV in men.
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Well, I took a look at the study and the age of diagnosis is around 60 or so....thus it is very possible the people got HPV before the advent of the vaccine.

Still, the vaccine has been in Canada for 10 years - even if primarily in females. Shouldn't we see some drop off in cancers? Less HPV in women should lead to less HPV in men.
Interesting question. Basically, they are seeing cancers in these men from behaviors they practiced 30 or 40 years ago, right? Which could include smoking, drinking, crappy diet and so on.

I keep wondering about the reasons why some people can clear it and some can't.

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Some interesting info here:
http://www.ctvnews.ca/health/mouth-t...-men-1.3120824

"between 1992 and 2012, the incidence of HPV-related mouth and throat cancers increased 56 per cent in males and 17 per cent in females.
In 1992, the age-standardized incidence rate (or ASIR) of those cancers was 4.1 per 100,000 Canadian males. In 2012, it was 6.4 per 100,000 males. In females, the rate was 1.2 in 1992 and 1.4 in 2012."

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"The surprising thing is that we’re just seeing the front end of the epidemic,” he told CTV News. “And it is an epidemic … cervical cancer rates are coming down and head, neck cancer rates are going up.”
Doctors say that oropharyngeal cancers (which include the back of the throat, the base of the tongue and the tonsils) and cancers of the mouth used to be mostly found in older patients who smoked, drank heavily or had other health issues. But it’s now more common to see HPV-related throat and mouth cancers in younger, otherwise healthy patients."
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Interesting question. Basically, they are seeing cancers in these men from behaviors they practiced 30 or 40 years ago, right? Which could include smoking, drinking, crappy diet and so on.

I keep wondering about the reasons why some people can clear it and some can't.
Oh, absolutely. One of the tables in the study showed how long the smokers had smoked (and most were smokers or former smokers IIRC) and it was 30 plus years!

ETA: here, table showing smoking rate:
http://www.cmaj.ca/content/189/32/E1...ic-1.large.jpg
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