I decided to try out a new doctor. The practice I went to is supposed to be non-vax friendly. Now I will say that I wasn't heavily lectured, nor was the experience bad in comparision to some I have read about, and the doctor had the attitude that it is my decision. The experience was not bad enough that I wouldn't go back or take my other children there.
BUT... she did state that she felt tetnus was important since tetnus lives in soil. There was a discussion here a few weeks ago about that and my personal feeling is that a 35 yr old subdivision soil is low risk for carrying tetnus. She stated that if tetnus is given in an emergancy situation it is combined with a globulin which is of a blood base and poses more risk that the vaccine itself. I believe she is right about that. I asked if tetnus was available in a single vaccine for infants. She left to check, no. I knew that it wasn't available for infants. But no scare tactics were used for this one really. She did state a 1 1/2 mo old die of pertussis in WV this past year and noted that the vaccine wouldn't have helped anyway. And that a non-vaxed person probably gave the disease to the infant...
She also discussed prevnar and hib, but since dd is over 1 she really focused in on prevnar and how pnemococcal bacteria can kill in 1 day. I stated that I knew the bacteria strains for which this vax covers are for antibiotic resistant strains and I saw that was a danger. I feel telling me that the bacteria are nasty and kill in 1 day is a scare tactic. I was trying to get her to tell me where these bacteria come from, but didn't get an answer. I wasn't really direct, we got interupted several times.
Her comment on IPV was that we live in a transient community, while this is true for the area the office I went to is in, I live 50 miles away.
And lastly rubella, that my dc could infect a pregnant woman and cause that woman to have a baby with a birth defect. Like I'm not into protecting public health, I'm into protecting my own child and breaking the cycle of vaccines that do not give life long immunity.
And speaking of which, I was told breast milk immunity for pertussis is weak at best. I told her I had been vaxed and had pertussis when I was 3. She said breastmilk immunities are strongest for chicken pox and measles. I clarified that is only true if you actually have had the disease.
Her position is one of public health and yet she fails to realize that if people got common childhood illness like measles, mumps, rubella, chicken pox and pertussis the diseases would not be a threat to pregnant woman and the older population. Vaccinate those who are past the age of "rare complications" and leave the rest to obtain life long immunity through a small bit of discomfort.
She did tell me that they would give Td instead of DTaP and that they carry the MMR in separate vaccines. And that they want their patients to feel comfortable with their decisions. No mention that separate vaccines increase the amount of "crap" in the vaccine (aluminum, mercury, fetal cells, etc.) going into your child.
She doesn't think antibiotics are the answer to every illness and She did recommend organic sunscreen which is a change. I told her about solarveil, she didn't know about it. When I go back I will bring a swatch in with a photo of my children in their solarveil summer jackets.
Oh, she liked my fuzzi bunz diapers!!! And thought it was interesting that my just 1 year old pops in the potty -- "how do you do that ?" was her question!
I think they are more selective and delay vax friendly and given the options around here are very limited -- I'll take this over the alternative.
And I guess I should add, that I did leave there with no vaxes. I do have a few questions to clear up just to make sure I'm still comfortable with my decisions. But that is normal for me, I double check myself from time to time.