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I need to get a religious exemption or medical exemption for my children. We are moving to HI and these are the only two exemptions they offer. Anyone know how to get around vaccinating my children. Thanks Jen
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I have an original Hawaii's exemption form I had mailed to me from the health department in Honolulu.

I'm going to post the email contact information. Just request a copy and they will mail a few forms out to you.
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You don't need to name a religion.

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Most religions dont allow killing. Some vaccines have aborted fetal tissue. You can use this. Many religions dont allow the harming of animals. Animal ingredients are in vaccines, you can use this also.

http://www.vaclib.org/exempt/hawaii.htm , has some info.

Here is a sample letter I found on under the PA laws at the same site.
http://www.vaclib.org/exempt/pennsylvania.htm

A conflict arises because my religious convictions are predicated on the belief that all life is sacred. God's commandment "Thou Shall Not Kill" applies to the practice of injection of carcinogenic substances that can kill.

(We / I) {First and Last name(s)}, as the {(parent (s) /guardian(s)} of (name of newborn child) are exercising our rights under the First Amendment of the US Constitution, PA. CODE § 23.84, PA. CODE § 28.12(b) and PA. CODE §27.98(b) to receive Religious Exemption from Vaccination, ALL injections, prophylaxis, & testing.

Applicable law has been interpreted to mean that a religious belief is subject to protection even though no religious group espouses such beliefs or the fact that the religious group to which the individual professes to belong may not advocate or require such belief. Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 as amended Nov. 1, 1980; Part 1605.1-Guidelines on Discrimination Because of Religion.

The Lord Jesus Christ and Our Creator are the only source of protection of my body and that of my family that I can accept.

I affirm that vaccination & injections of any foreign substances and proteins conflict with my religious beliefs as stated above. Therefore, I would request that you accommodate my religious beliefs and practices by exempting my newborn child from any vaccinations, injections and testing of any kind.

Rest assured that my family and I do practice a form of immunization that keeps our immune systems strong and is in keeping with Biblical principles.

Further Affiant Saith Not

The use of notary below is for identification only, and such use does NOT grant any jurisdiction to anyone.

Subscribed and sworn, without prejudice, and with all rights reserved, (Print Name Below)


__________________________________________________ _____________,
Principal, by Special Appearance, in Propria Persona, proceeding Sui Juris
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You don't need to name a religion.

-Angela

That's right. The Hawaii exemtpion form states:

I certify that immunization conflicts with my bona fide religious beliefs and practices.
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Here is the contact information - just click on the email link. They sent the forms to me right away, but you should tell them you need it as soon as possible anyway:

http://www.hawaii.gov/health/family-.../contacts.html
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I'm a Christian, and I've always been a little torn about the religious/philosopihical distinction. I don't believe it would be sin to vaccinate or anything, but I have faith that God made our bodies "wonderfully", and our immune systems are amazing and not to be messed with.....I guess in my mind, I don't want to be "playing God"...but other objections I have are just common-sense, statistical, risk vs. benefits things we've had to think out. But how can I separate my "religion" from my mind, from my life....I guess if we believed in following a set of rules it would be pretty black and white. Anyways, I have wondered if I would pick religious or philosophical....

but not to de-rail your thread! I don't think you need details, like pp's have mentioned
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While clearly it's better not to say anything you don't have to, I've wondered before about the original question (which religious traditions prohibit or are likely to oppose vaxes) and would like to know if anyone has any answers. I assume that Christian Science is on the list, but what else?
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This is what the Hawaii pre-printed exemption form states:

I certify that immunization conflicts with my bona fide religious tenets and practices.

I understand that my child is susceptible to vaccine preventable diseases. If at anytime there is, in the opinion of the Department of Health, danger of an outbreak or epidemic from any communicable disease for which immunization is required, this exemption shall not be recognized. I understand that my child will be excluded from school until the threat of an epidemic is over or he or she receives the proper immunization. (Hawaii Revised Statutes Section 302A-1157)


There are lines to fill out for the following:

Pupil's name
Birthdate
School
Grade
Parent name
Parent signature
Date
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the amish don't vax, but I think it's more of a "separation from the world" thing than any specific tenet of their faith. It just doesn't make sense to them to subscribe to the world's system of birth, doctor visits, etc....(I do have several ex-amish friends, and that's what I've gathered)
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We recently began going to a Seventh Day Adeventist Church and have found that a good many parents do not vaccinate their children.

Some Wiccan churches offer covering if you choose not to vaccinate, if you have to state a religious exemption.

I've yet to meet a Jehova Witness that has immunized children.
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We recently began going to a Seventh Day Adeventist Church and have found that a good many parents do not vaccinate their children.

Some Wiccan churches offer covering if you choose not to vaccinate, if you have to state a religious exemption.

I've yet to meet a Jehova Witness that has immunized children.
Interesting. Thanks, OnTheFence.
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Many Christian Scientist do not vaccinate or believe in doctors for healing. Some of that is changing from what I can tell on the internet, however, a df's father was most helpful when the school objected to my religious exemptions for both vaccination and school physical. My df is not vaxed, but her children are. She does not attend church anymore.

I use a religious exemption and I felt I must be able to defend my belief if it ever came down to it. However, I have researched enough to know they can not ask you what your religion is. This website helped me formulate my thoughts better.

http://poisonevercure.150m.com/from_...view_point.htm

And the wording I used for my son's exemption to the school physical included wording from the law.
"In accordance with 22.1-270 Section D of the Virginia Code, the administration of a physical examination by a physician permitted to conduct such physical examination in the stae of VA conflicts with our religious tenets or practices." I also had to state my child was in good health, to the best of my knowledge free from communicable diseases.

I think it is important to distinguish that I was against the physical exam, based on the doctors permitted by law to conduct the exam -- not the exam itself. I did this to cover my butt b/c we do see a chiropractor and the orthodontist.

So, I guess I'm saying if you don't agree with their wording make your own siting their laws.
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I have a religious exemption for my children and was not asked to give my church affiliation. That is against the First Ammendment (freedom of religion).


To answer the op:
*Christian Scientist

*Scientology

*Jehovahs Witness

*Catholic ( www.cogforlife.org/fetalvaccines.htm )

*Church of Illumination

*LifeSpirit Organization

and some Wicca Organizations also.
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Our religion is
"we don't poke holes in babies"
or
"no toxic sludge ingecting"

You could always go to ULC.org and become ordained!

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Thank you for the information. I am glad that I don't have to state what religion I am, I would hate to lie! This makes it much easier for me! Jen
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Jehovah Witnesses leave it up to the individual to vax or not to vax;

Christian Science explicitly does not vax;

Seventh Day Adventist usually do not vax, and they founded the Health Food Store Movement in the U.S.

Amish like to stay away from all things modern.

Some charismatic Catholics who know from whence vaccinations come do not vax.

Scientologists - it is left up to the individual; I looked into sending my son to Delphi Academy, a small private Scientology school near my home and I also interviewed for a job as a teacher there, and I was informed that vaccination is left up to the individual; I was also told this by a midwife who is a Scientologist, and a pediatrician who is a Scientologist.

Many other sects as Wiccan and others...do not vax.

Also, the families of some, not all, Chiropractors do not vax. My FAther was a Chiropractor, and a Catholic also!

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To answer the op:
*Christian Scientist

*Scientology

*Jehovahs Witness

*Catholic ( www.cogforlife.org/fetalvaccines.htm )

*Church of Illumination

*LifeSpirit Organization

and some Wicca Organizations also.
And the Church of Dingogirl.
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Some Muslims do not vaccinate because some vaccines contain alcohol as well as pig byproducts, both of which are haram (forbidden); vaccines also violate Islamic laws of cleanliness.
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We are Catholic and don't vaccinate because our faith prohibits us from doing anything against our moral conscience. Yes, there is also the abortion issue as a previous poster mentioned. There are vaxes, however, not grown on aborted tissue.
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I was raised Roman Catholic before the VAtican II Council and I was a pariah for eight years of Catholic Grammar School.

"The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie, deliberate, contrived and dishonest, but the myth, persistent, persuasive and unrealistic."
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Applejuice is correct - Jehovah's Witnesses make their own decisions regarding vaccines.....and I am sure that many are just as unaware as I have been. Everytime I tell someone that we aren't vaxing, they are surprised...until I tell them what's in the vaxes and then most understand. I just had an older friend visit me and the baby a few days ago and dh and I told her about the vax schedule and how many children are given.......she goes, "What in the world is HIB???" And then with each one she was just as dumbfounded. Parents from the 60's and 70's are usually shocked by what is put into babies these days - the ingredients AND what the shot is for.
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Thank you 4xmommy!

I have many Jehovah Witness friends who told me that it is a matter of personal conscience. Most have told me that they vaccinated because of a problem in the family history with diptheria, measles, mumps, pertussis, polio, so they at least thought about it, which is more than most people do.

"The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie, deliberate, contrived and dishonest, but the myth, persistent, persuasive and unrealistic."
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Right on Dinogirl.....I have been asked a few times...what religion are you ( ds's preschool and the school he is about to attend) and I smile and say "....now certainly you don't discriminate on basis of religion do you??" My attorney said that question should never be asked" and they get quiet. DS was partially vaxed and I detached the vax form and attached the exemption ( she partially filled out the vax form ) when I changed ped's she doesn't know about the previous vaxes so I just told her we don't vax and she wrote "exemption on the page and that was that. No biggie--never really been questioned.
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I don't know for certain, but I'd be surprised if Rastafarians vaxed..
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That's incorrect. Jehovah's Witnesses do indeed vaccinate their children.

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Some Muslims do not vaccinate because some vaccines contain alcohol as well as pig byproducts, both of which are haram (forbidden); vaccines also violate Islamic laws of cleanliness.

But, but, but, - that should be true, but in practice it is not.

 

That is a prohibition against SOME vaccines, not the general practice of vaccination.

 

 I do understand that a requirement of the hadj, the trip to Mecca, a goal of all devout Muslims, is one of the five pillars of Islam and a duty to be carried out by every able-bodied Muslim person who can afford to do so at least once in his or her lifetime. 

 

I understand that some vaccines are required for the hadj by the government.

http://www.hajinformation.com/main/p3001.htm

http://www.saudiembassy.net/services/hajj_requirements.aspx

The applicant must submit proof of vaccination for meningitis and ACYW135. For infants and children up to fifteen (15) years of age, a vaccination report is required for polio as well as meningitis and polio. Children over fifteen (15) years of age should present the same vaccinations requested for adults. 
        a. meningitis and ACYW135.
        b. The seasonal (or common) flu, which should be taken two weeks before applying for the visa.
        c. The H1N1 flu, if a vaccine is made available before Hajj season, and should be taken two weeks before
            applying for the visa.
        d. Infants and children up to fifteen (15) years of age should provide a vaccination report for meningococcal and polio. 
        e. Children above fifteen (15) years of age should present the same vaccinations requested for adults.
        f.  Health experts advise the following groups to postpone their plans for Hajj and Omrah this year for their
             own safety: The elderly, the terminally ill, pregnant women, and children.


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I know this is an old thread, but I'm filling out an exemption form for Washington state and it says that for the "personal/philosophical exemption" that you need to have a health care provider sign it certifying that "the parent/guardian has received information on the benefits and risks of immunization to their child as a condition for exempting their child for medical, religious, personal or philosophical reasons" 

 

Then there is another box that I can just sign myself that says "I am a member of a church or religious body whose beliefs or teachings do not allow for medical treatment from a health care practitioner. By supplying the information requested below, no further proof or signed provider statement in Box 1 is required for this religious exemption." And it has a line for "Name of Church or Religious Body" and then a signature.

 

I'm not technically a member of any church, but I don't take my kids to doctors either... I don't want to lie, but I'm not making a special trip to the doctor to fill out a stupid form either. 

 

Can I just put "Decline to State" on the line for Church or Religious Body?

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