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Anything to not have to say "We have a problem with the MMR".

...and they wonder why we don't just blindly trust them...
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http://www.idph.state.ia.us/adper/co...ate_050406.pdf

Iowa: 1,552
Nebraska: 247
Kansas: 434
Wisconsin: 137
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http://www.kdheks.gov/news/web_archi.../05042006a.htm

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May 4, 2006

Kansas Mumps Cases Increase to Total of 434
The Kansas Department of Health and Environment (KDHE) has received reports of 434 mumps (confirmed/probable) cases in 43 Kansas counties to date. Local health departments are also investigating an additional 68 patients with potential symptoms of mumps.
The majority of the cases are concentrated in Douglas County (193), but there are also cases in Allen, Anderson, Atchison, Barton, Bourbon, Butler, Clay, Cowley, Crawford, Dickinson, Ellis, Franklin, Geary, Gove, Grant, Harvey, Jackson, Jefferson, Johnson, Labette, Leavenworth, Lyon, Marshall, McPherson, Miami, Nemaha, Norton, Osage, Phillips, Pottawatomie, Pratt, Reno, Riley, Rooks, Saline, Scott, Sedgwick, Seward, Shawnee, Sheridan, Wabaunsee, Wyandotte.
Iowa health officials have reported 1,487 cases of mumps as of May 1.
So...
1,487 in Iowa
+434 in Kansas
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1,921 for those 2 states alone...

79 cases short of seeing the epidemic reach into those "thousands" the CDC director said we'd be seeing if the vaccine was not working....

And that's just 2 states...
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http://www.hhs.state.ne.us/epi/mumps/
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As of May 3, 2006, Nebraska health care providers reported 247 confirmed, probable, and suspected mumps cases in 41 counties to HHSS and local health departments.
1,921 Iowa+Kansas
+247 Nebraska
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2,168.....oops...spoke too fast, huh, Julie?
+ 137
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2,305....

Where are the numbers for the other states?
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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...h/3841873.html
1,500 in Iowa


http://www.aberdeennews.com/mld/aber...s/14511779.htm
46 in South Dakota.

http://www.htrnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll...N0101/60505010
137 in Wisconsin


http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/du...l/14507089.htm
102 in Minnesota

So, we were at 2,300ish.

2,300
102
137
46
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2,585 in the US, still missing some states.
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Missouri: 95
Illinois: 263
Pennsylvania: 12 (related to outbreak)
Virginia: 9 (related to outbreak)
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So we're not so slowly creeping up on 3,000..

WTH is the CDC doing?
And the media is being uncharacteristically non-inflammatory, isn't it?

ETA:
And that's 11 states, now, isn't it?

I read that there are a couple in Arkansas and N.Carolina, too. Considered unrelated to the rest, though...
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Originally Posted by dingo girl
Mumps Outbreak Should Remind Us All of the Importance of Vaccinations

Officials at the CDC have indicated, however, that the outbreak could have been worse, noting that if we didn't have a high rate of two-dose coverage, we'd be seeing thousands of cases, or tens of thousands of cases.
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And what makes the CDC think we won't be seeing "thousands, or tens of thousands of cases?"
Because the vaccine is working.
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So we're not so slowly creeping up on 3,000..

WTH is the CDC doing?
And the media is being uncharacteristically non-inflammatory, isn't it?

ETA:
And that's 11 states, now, isn't it?

I read that there are a couple in Arkansas and N.Carolina, too. Considered unrelated to the rest, though...
And remember, my MIL had it in January - she's in Texas. That's 1 for TX. I'm sure there are lots more, but I had to get my 1 added into the tally.

ETA: What are those smilies doing to each other? I didn't know it came out that way until after I posted, but it looks funny if you have the kind of mind that can imagine smilies doing dirty deeds.
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Correct me if my decimal is off; but this Mumps Epidemic is up to

0.001% of the American population!!!!


Please remain calm and in your seats. The CDC is in control of this flight......


(that was 3000 cases in a population of 300,000,000)


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(that was 3000 cases in a population of 300,000,000)


Pat

Oops, that was 3001 cases, I forgot the TX mom.

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Check out the pattern it followed in the UK.
http://www.hpa.org.uk/infections/top..._confirmed.htm
Now, the vax coverage is probably about 10 or 15% lower over there, and the vax does kinda, sorta work...so maybe that 10-15% will make all the difference in the world over here.
But probably not. If it did, then Iowa wouldn't have 1,500 cases right now (and you have to figure that since mumps is asymptomatic 1/3rd of the time, they probably have at least 2,000+ cases in all actuality.)
Now maybe when school lets out, transmission will be reduced and it will fizzle out.
But if the numbers don't greatly reduce over the summer, then in August it'll probably just explode all over again.
Only time will tell...
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I also heard there were 2 cases so far here in Oregon last night on the news, but I came in at the end of it and that is what my step father told me they said.
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Correct me if my decimal is off; but this Mumps Epidemic is up to 0.001% of the American population!!!!
Pat

while autism sits at 5.5 per 1000
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while autism sits at 5.5 per 1000
That's so sad.
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while autism sits at 5.5 per 1000
oh, but that's just because it is better diagnosed nowadays donchaknow....

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My gf just called me. She is age 55. Has been driving back to Ohio from Arizona. She's been home in Ohio just two days now and guess what? She's got the mumps. She's going to the doc on Monday but she said there is no doubt about it.

I'll let you know Monday what he said.

Interesting though. She had the mumps on one side as a kid and was never vaccinated.
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Isn't this cute?

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"People should call their health care providers to check their vaccination records," Marquis said. "But if they don't know, there is no increased risk of side effects posed by getting another vaccination."
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http://www.cdc.gov/nip/diseases/mumps/mumps-faqs.htm#t1
One or more persons with mumps related to the current outbreak have been reported from 13 states as of May 5, 2006: Arkansas, Colorado, Iowa, Illinois, Kansas, Mississippi, Missouri, Minnesota, Nebraska, New York, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, and Wisconsin.
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I was flipping channels yesterday and saw something about measles in KS. The story was over by the time I got back. Anybody know about this? Is it (not) strange that second "VPD" is in the same shot as mumps?
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[QUOTE=Deva33mommy]"This report summarizes the results of the subsequent investigation by NYSDOH, which determined that, even in a population with 96% vaccination coverage, as was the case with participants in the summer camp, a mumps outbreak can result from exposure to virus imported from a country with an ongoing mumps epidemic. "

"Vaccination of counselors who will be working in summer camps is recommended, particularly because mumps vaccine effectiveness can be <85% in outbreak settings "
That's funny!

So . . . it only works when the disease is not present? ????????
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So . . . it only works when the disease is not present? ????????
Well in that case, it is 100% effective!

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I would like to know what percent of people contracted mumps before the vax. Before the vax, in a town of 50,000 people, what percentage of people got mumps. Then we can compare the effective rate of the vax.

Hope I'm making sense.
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Just wanted to chime in that we have mumps in Ky too. Didn't see any talk of us on the thread yet. My dss's ped had diagnosed 2 last week, and of course there are other cases like the receptionist at my sisters Chiro. FWIW he doesn't vax his son either and he was exposed and did not contract it from the receptionist. My youngest is the only one in our family who is no vax and so I'm anxious to see who, if any of us, gets this. I'm putting my money on my youngest to come out the best. I got a booster 2 years ago after dd2 while at the hospital. Wonder if it worked? Oh, and I don't know if the 2 at the ped's office were vax'd or not. My guess is that they were of else the news would have made a big deal over it.
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I would like to know what percent of people contracted mumps before the vax. Before the vax, in a town of 50,000 people, what percentage of people got mumps. Then we can compare the effective rate of the vax.

Hope I'm making sense.
No, you aren't. Because how can you assess the effective rate unless you know exactly who has been exposed, who has a subclinical infection, who has an actual infection and what the vaccination rates are total.

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Like I said, a rattlesnake vaccine will always have a 100% effectiveness in this country.

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My husband just went to the doc- he might have mumps. We're in central IL.

Good for my unvaxed kids, but not so good for DH (who was vaxed, of course.)
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The CDC's May 6th update:

http://www.cdc.gov/nip/diseases/mump...t.htm#teleconf
Takes you here…
http://www.izcoalitionsta.org/ccdetail.cfm?id=38


(a snip from the teleconference)

Q: I was wondering how reliable it is, from drawing a titre, in terms of judging immunity.

A: Well...none of the tests are validated...
The natural disease, there’s no really good correlate of protection…
If you’re haven’t been vaccinated, a positive IgG will be reassuring, and a negative will mean that you don’t have immunity.
If you’re vaccinated, though, the level of IgG antibody achieved after vaccination is logs lower than after natural infection. And so our advice, and that will be posted on the website later today, is (said with emphasis) do not test.
If you’ve been vaccinated.
Consider two doses of vaccine adequate evidence of immunity….
If you get into testing after vaccination it could become a nightmare…consider vaccination evidence of immunity…


Which is found on the update for health care workers page:
http://www.cdc.gov/nip/diseases/mumps/control-hcw.htm

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Serologic evidence of immunity (i.e., positive mumps IgG):
In unvaccinated persons or persons with a history of mumps disease, presence of mumps specific antibodies should be considered evidence of natural infection and immunity. However, a history of physician-diagnosed mumps is considered reliable proof of immunity and antibody testing of such individuals is not recommended.
Results of serum antibody tests in vaccinated persons are difficult to interpret and such testing is NOT recommended. In vaccinated persons, antibody levels are often lower than following natural infection, and commercially available tests may not detect such low levels of antibody. In addition, there is no data that correlates levels of serum antibody with protection from disease. Last, there are no data on the impact of additional (greater than two) doses of mumps vaccine on antibody levels or protection from disease.
So basically, "We don't know how well the vaccine works, and we don't want to know...so, please, do not draw titres from vaccinated people."
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