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but you aren't surprised, are you?

it's why i come here. I've gotta tell you that I am really going to be frightened if either of my kids marries someone who vaxed up the wazoo because of the pressure they'll get from their ILs to poison their babies...
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And to the person that told you the vaccine causes shingles, they are wrong. If you have had chicken pox, you are at risk of getting shingles later in life.

Oh Amanda . . . vaccinated persons can and do get shingles. It's a live virus dear.
http://www.cdc.gov/nip/diseases/vari...n-shingles.htm

VAERS reports of shingles after varicella vaccination. Take note how many kids are getting shingles: http://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/fin...PTOMS=shingles
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What an awful answer!!! OMG!!!
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i will tell you it takes forever to respond in less than 300 characters!! :
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I wonder if Amanda knows they're going to be recommending a second dose of varicella in a few day . . .

. . . that would be because the vaccine sucks.
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Another :, from me.
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now the question is closed so there can be no other opinions!!!
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Wow, those replies made me dizzy and ill. Such uniformed people believing disinformation.
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ugh...
I love how anyone can spout off their opinion and its just taken as fact.

At least give proven, accurate info...

I guess Im cruel for letting my son get the illness (knowing HIS antibodies will last a lifetime rather than the median 10 years the vaccine gives you)... lock me up and throw out the key.
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but you aren't surprised, are you?

it's why i come here. I've gotta tell you that I am really going to be frightened if either of my kids marries someone who vaxed up the wazoo because of the pressure they'll get from their ILs to poison their babies...
Don't worry, myself and my 5 siblings were not vaxed and we all married vaxed people, and did we vax one of kids? NO FREAKING WAY! Just teach your children well and all will be fine.
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I've gotta tell you that I am really going to be frightened if either of my kids marries someone who vaxed up the wazoo because of the pressure they'll get from their ILs to poison their babies..
Not neccesarily. I myself am vax'ed "up the wazoo"--childhood vax'es, then vax'es for college, then again four years later for Peace Corps (including HepA and HepB), then again 3 years later for grad school--I have had A LOT of vax'es! And my dd is unvax'ed and will remain that way. We all live and learn And my mom is supportive of our not vax'ing. Dh is also vax'ed--his mom is, well, not so supportive. But it is OUR decision, not MIL's. So I don't think you have to worry--just teach your dc to think for themselves

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"yes why wouldnt you. did some scare you or something. vaccination is the best thing a mom can do for a child."


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Yeah, don't you know chicken pox can KILL you? KILL, I say! :barf
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I don't necessarily blame people for wanting to vax their kids, even after studying it out. It's just her answer was so malicious in addition to being inaccurate. The varicella vax only has a 70% "success" rate. Even before I decided not to vax DS, that just sounded useless to me.
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OMG! That is just scary. I feel like an irresponsible parent because (don;t be shocked) I allowed dd to contract chicken pox naturally. Glad she survived.
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"it can KILL you!"

One of the biggest killers of kids is drowning. I don't see anyone outlawing pools, rivers, lakes, oceans, and kitchen sinks, nor calling parents who take their kids near water "cruel"!

It doesn't give you shingles? Y halo thar Miss Information!
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I just seemed to see the word KILL KILL KILL over and over again.

Chicken pox, people!!

They must have been totally terrified with the crying rubber ducky commercial. The commercial that failed to mention the children who died were already immunno-compromised in some way, like having leukemia?

I think someone should "re-ask" the question and then the rest of us can mob it with more accurate data.
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I just seemed to see the word KILL KILL KILL over and over again.
According to the CDC, a total of 47 people (not children, people) died of varicella complications in 1986 . . . ten years prior to the introduction of Varivax. In 2000, there were 48 deaths.

I wonder how many children drowned in 1986? Or were killed by drunk/drugged drivers, or killed by an abusive parent? According to the CDC, there were 3,482 unintentional drownings in the United States in 2000. The CDC also states that drowning is the second leading cause of injury-related death among children under the age of 15. About 700 children die annually.


Chicken pox is a killer alright.


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Am I the only one who cringes when people post this?:

<<The needle takes a second and then they are over it. >>
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Besides the absolutely nauseating nature of those answers...

what idiot asks random people on yahoo about her kid's health??!!!!!:

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Besides the absolutely nauseating nature of those answers... what idiot asks random people on yahoo about her kid's health??!!!!!:





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Besides the absolutely nauseating nature of those answers...
what idiot asks random people on yahoo about her kid's health??!!!!!:
b/c coming to a place like this is just hard work. you have to first get over everything you've ever been taught about vax's, then theres all the science to go along with it. its just really, really hard! and who has time for that when you hvae a dr. appt. TOMORROW to get your baby injected with a bunch of stuff (esp. when the injections are so you can go back to work and not miss any more days b/c of a inconvenient disease such as CP...not ragging WOHM's..i was (and will soon be again) one...but that reason for a vax is just crazy to me).

oh, and w/ yahoo..the 300 word limit means no one can give a good response to your question. i tried. it took me 15 minutes and i finally gave up, butchered 1/2 of it, and it sounds crappy now!
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I wrote that I didnt know how to diagree with the answer in under 300 characters
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Here is an idea. When something like this comes up, several people can respond, each handling one piece.

one person talk about how the vax causes shingles in children, perhaps with a link to one or two medical journal articles

one person give a quick summary of how the vax is increasing shingles in the elderly, again with a link

another person to give the stats about the actual risk of death from chickenpox

and so on.

The person who spots the outrageous incident, comes here, posts a list of points that need to be responded to and anyone with time and interest chooses a topic and lets the rest of the crew know that it is taken.

A sort of rapid response team. I'd be happy to participate in something like that. I rarely have time to research and write long responses, but a focused item on one aspect of something could be done in less than 1/2 hour, and several such responses would probably shut the nonsense down, and make people start questioning the propaganda around vaxing.

Whaddya all think? Would this work? :
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If I'm online and get the alert, I'm in. Someone can also pm me.
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I like the idea Deborah Like a Hasmat for bad information cleanup.
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b/c coming to a place like this is just hard work.
I agree, it is. It's like the blinders are on with superglue - start to tug at them , they don't come off too easy.
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Thanks for the positive responses Alisaterry and JesseMomme. We can just try this out the next time something of this sort turns up and see how it works. More folks will join in if it turns out to be a practical approach.

Bite size info bits will probably go down easier, too. And hearing from several different people who are questioning vaxes is also impressive.

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