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2004 Pediatric News article:
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A Study to Assess the Feasibility of an Acellular Pertussis Vaccine (Pa) Given Soon After Birth, Followed by 3-Dose Primary Vaccination With the DTPa-HBV-IPV/Hib Vaccine. A Booster Dose of DTPa-HBV-IPV/Hib Will Be Given in the 2nd Year of Life.

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Glaxo slide show on neonatal pertussis vaccination: http://www.hhs.gov/nvpo/meetings/neonatal/Bogaerts.pdf
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I can't imagine what the death rate will be for these newborns.
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Sometimes it is all so sad........... they are ruining our future generations.
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Interesting that they want to give one of the most reactive vaccines immediately. I can't help but think this is to lessen the number of parents who are able to link their child's reactions to the vaccine. Will be just about impossible to link the vaccine if given in the newborn, no pre vax behavior to compare with post vax.
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Interesting that they want to give one of the most reactive vaccines immediately. I can't help but think this is to lessen the number of parents who are able to link their child's reactions to the vaccine. Will be just about impossible to link the vaccine if given in the newborn, no pre vax behavior to compare with post vax.
I was thinking the same thing. They can also classify any resulting deaths under SIDS:
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My question is.... Why only two doses ??

Why then in our current lovely schedule there are FIVE doses of DTaP , 3HepB , 4 polio , etc....

Did the make the vaccine stronger ?

Oh dear heavens....how many parents will say "wow..this is great. One shot now , one shot at two. ".....

I can't wait to get my hands on the insert. What will the adverse reactions be?
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and you know they'll give it to premies without adjusting for their gestational age because they really need to be protected :Puke

watch the prime age for SIDS shift from 4 to 6 months to under 3 months.
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My question is.... Why only two doses ??
The Pediatric News article states:

Children will receive a single dose of monovalent acellular pertussis vaccine at birth, followed by three doses of a DTaP vaccine at 2, 4, and 6 months of age.

Instead of monovalent (pertussis-only) vax, I figured they would consider a Hep B/Pertussis combo vax at birth. I would imagine they're going to test that out too though.

Kids will still need to be boosted by kindergarten and again by middle/high school . . . and then of course more boosters as adults.
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Part of the problem is that immunity to pertussis booster vaccination appears to wane over time, leaving adolescents and adults to serve as reservoirs of infection, said Dr. Hugues H. Bogaerts, a vice president of GlaxoSmithKline Pharmaceuticals.
isn't the problem the fact that they vax for pertussis in the first place? As I understand it, natural pertussis infection confers lifetime immunity. Most kids would get it in grade school and have lifetime immunity to it and antibodies to pass on to their newborns via placenta and breastmilk. They are looking for a solution to a problem they created.

You know we will see a "totally coincidental, non-vax related" increase in SIDS if they do start pertussis vaxing newborns.

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isn't the problem the fact that they vax for pertussis in the first place? As I understand it, natural pertussis infection confers lifetime immunity. Most kids would get it in grade school and have lifetime immunity to it and antibodies to pass on to their newborns via placenta and breastmilk. They are looking for a solution to a problem they created.

You know we will see a "totally coincidental, non-vax related" increase in SIDS if they do start pertussis vaxing newborns.
This is exactly what vaxes are causing. NOW this is considered a dangerous disease that infants are succeptable to!
arrgghhhh
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