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#1 of 13 Old 08-12-2006, 02:36 AM - Thread Starter
 
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She's 23 months and not vaxed (except for the Hep B series). Today I picked her up from daycare (she does 4 hours a day) and she wasn't acting right. That turned into very needy with a lot of wimpering. Then a fever spiked and she has slept most of the evening (but when she's awake, she's not acting overly lethargic). She's drinking enough that I'm not worried about dehydration. But she keeps having these sudden, rough jerking movements. Then she'll cry really hard for a few minutes after it happens, like it's hurting her. What could it be? The fever doesn't feel any hotter than 103 at the most. She's never had a cold or the flu before, would this be normal if that's all it is? Thanks in advance

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Simple febrile seizure is my first thought. Spiking fevers can bring them in in a small percentage of children. The jerky body movements you mentioned and crying really sounds like a seizure.

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That was my thought too. But can that happen while she's wide awake? And shouldn't the fever be higher? If that's what it is, is there anything that I should do?

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It doesn't matter if she is awake or asleep for a seizure and it actually doesn't have anything to do with how high the temp gets, it's usually brought on by a fever that spiked fast....some kids get febrile seizures with a temp of 100 or 101F even. There is simple and complex febrile seizures, depend on how long they last.

You might want to take her to the Dr if she's still doing it in the am just to get it checked out. Especially if she is having them repeatedly in a 24 hr period or if they last longer than like 10 or 15 mins at a time.

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Thanks for all the info

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I am thinking of you and hopping she is much better by morning.

Whenever my kids were sick I simply let them sleep it off. If they didn't want to eat or drink that was alright as long as they still had one wet diaper in a 24 hour period. And that was always the case. Seems as soon as they get over it they drank more than enough to make up for it.

Somehow kids know what they need and what is best for them. TLC is generally all they require.

Watch for a growths spurt after she is better again.
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How is she today?

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Well before bed she did get a tad hungry and ate a cracker and some grapes. She slept all night long and late into the morning. She's drinking tons of liquids and I keep sneaking some asorbic acid powder into her cups. Today she seems better but is still warm, clingy, and looking like crap. I'm not worried about her, I'd just never seen the jerking thing before and didn't know what to expect. We don't use fever reducers here, so that wasn't an option. Thanks for checking on us.

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I'd also like to point out that I'm pretty proud of the fact that my unvaxed baby (you know, the little germ breeder ) has been in daycare for almost 6 weeks, and only now is getting a small bug. She's only been sick twice in two years (croup, rotovirus, scarlet fever, and now this). And I'm terrible about keeping her "away" from germs. All the other kids in her school seem to miss a day a week thanks to colds and flus. I love this fully working immune system stuff.

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Is she teething? My un vaxed son (22mo) gets this exact way for about 24 hours every molar (fever, sleepy and all I do for 24 hours is nurse and rock him) in fact just last Sat!!! We don't use fever reducers either. We have fevers for a reason! But by day two he MIGHT eat a little then a week and a half later he is back to normal and usually with a new molar!

He hasn't had a febrile seizure, but my chiro said all kids are different some never get them and some kids he knows gets them every time they have a fever.

Hope she feels better soon!!!
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I know this is kinda late. But my son has had a febrile seizure before. The night before he did the jerk cry thing. And even now if he gets a high fever he will jerk a bit and I know whats about to come and I personally give him something. Because the seizure scared the crap out of me was about a minute long or so it seemed. He was unresponsive for about 15 minutes after that. Hope your little one feels better by now.
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Some people say putting slices of lemon on the soles of the feet (and then socks hahaha) helps a fever.

As people have said, it's the rapid change in temperature that causes seizures, not the temperature itself.

There are some who believe that, although not in themselves dangerous, febrile seizures can indicate other problems, so you might want to discuss it with your health care provider.
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my little girl (9 mos)has kidney reflux. she recently exhibited very similar sypmtoms and almost died on us. she went from normal--trembling and low grade fever (also teething)--to turning blue and coding in under 1 hour. She was in septic shock due to uro sepsis. in short it happens more to little girls and is a UTI gone really bad. I say get her checked out as the trembling is not normal.
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