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Old 03-16-2008, 09:52 PM - Thread Starter
 
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We are an a delayed/alternative vaccination schedule. 4 month old is scheduled for her first DTaP tomorrow, but after researching I am wondering if we should select out of this shot. According to the National Vaccine Info Center - 2 categories for high risk reaction to the P portion of the shot are: 1) a child who had head trauma at birth AND 2) a child who has a personal or family histroy of severe allergies (such as eczema, asthma, and especially cows milk) may be at high risk for a severe reaction to the P portion of the vaccine. I have eczema, and there was shoulder dystocia at birth, although it was resovled quickly (home birth). Has anyone heard of these circumstances which could be considered high risk? Any thoughts?
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That vaccine or part of it is used in test animals to make them allergic for allergy medicine testing.

It is also the most reactive vaccine. A whole book was dedicated to it - A Shot In The Dark by H. Coulter.

The vaccine is the one most likely associated with SIDS and the encephalitic scream (brain damage).

If I were you I would absolutely not use any vaccine until you are 100% positive that your child will benefit from it. Vaccines are not emergency medicine and can always be done. Once you have injected them into your child, and there is a vaccine reactions, you can never reverse that damage.

I will look for some links -
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Bridget, I just noticed that was your very first post.

to the vaccine forum.


Here is the link I promised you -

http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=620245

Just one warning: your doctor will most likely say something like "Your child could die of wc (whooping cough) so you better get that vaccine".

Fact is that one vaccine does not prevent wc nor do two. It takes 3 vaccines to have "full immunity" and by that time the child is over 6 mo old at which time he is pretty much out of the dangerous age of having to be hospitalized for wc.

Besides by that time it is Spring and wc will not be a problem anyway.

The other toxins in the vaccine are diphtheria which is not a problem in the US and they are talking about taking that one maybe off the schedule anyway and Tetanus which is at best a disease of old, diabetic horse farmers. Never of kids unless you plaster their newly cut umbilical cord with horse poop and mud (sort of like in an African tradition).
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thanks for the link - yes, I am fully prepared to get a lecture from the pedetrician - and I'll be ready to present my case. thanks again,
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I would not vaccinate at all before 2 years old. And I don't think there are any circumstances under which I'd do the DTaP

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I would not vaccinate at all before 2 years old. And I don't think there are any circumstances under which I'd do the DTaP

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I agree 100%.

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thanks for the link - yes, I am fully prepared to get a lecture from the pedetrician - and I'll be ready to present my case. thanks again,
Truthfully I would not let him lecture me. This is your child, you make the health care decisions. If something happens to the child, he will only say it's not the vaccine nor his fault. Period.

If I were you I would simply say I am in the process of researching vaccines and I will let you know when or if we want any.

Then change the subject and ask about other things.

If he brings the discussion back to vaccines, say, Thank you but I am doing research as of now.

He will say don't believe what is on the INTERNET. But don't forget the CDC site is on the Internet. (I have no clue why they even dare to say that.) This site uses the CDC for its source all the time -

http://insidevaccines.com/wordpress/

I would not discuss vaccines with the doctor. He has been trained to sell them and has been trained to use any means to do so. He himself is afraid of most diseases although he has probably seen very few irl and has never seen tetanus I bet. But there are plenty of awful pictures of poor little African kids with measles etc in the medical books.
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