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#1 ·
Hi all, I've never started a weekly chat here before!

I am back from a trip alone w/ Phoebe up to the bay area. It went great! She was a dream- sleepy and quiet when not sleepy. I had her in the moby wrap pretty much the whole time and we had a private room (it was a dorm). Workshop was good for me too, got me excited to get back to work, lots of positive feedback about my research, fun times meeting other grad students and faculty, and some good ideas for teaching, or at least food for thought.

DS and DH did fine w.out me, though apparently there were no naps and no dinners at home the whole time. Ah well. They did clean up the house and wash Phoebe's dipes on Sunday afternoon before I got home.

Hope the sick babies are better, and I only skimmed the end of last week's thread but it was so cool to see the picture of Sophia snuggling w/ Lindsay and having a bottle! Wow!

-Emma
 
#52 ·
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Originally Posted by ShineliketheSon View Post
Nancy: I hope all goes well with shots! N is 2 months now and I'm still on the fence about them...you can't undo them so I guess I'm just waiting till I know for sure? I hate these decisions! The toughest part of being a parent I think, even harder than the temper tantrums!!

I just wish I could promise him ice cream or something.
Zack's a tough dude, though... he probably won't make a big deal out of it.
If it was good for me, it's good for him.
I'd rather not deal with something I could have prevented.

Thanks for the well wishes, all.
It can't be worse than when I clipped his finger instead of his nail. >.<
 
#53 ·
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Originally Posted by nancy11 View Post
I just wish I could promise him ice cream or something.
Zack's a tough dude, though... he probably won't make a big deal out of it.
(...)
It can't be worse than when I clipped his finger instead of his nail. >.<
I clipped my son's finger while cutting his nail when he was a baby and he's perfectly fine. And really the shots always seemed worse on me than on him. This time we're waiting on shots a bit, I am glad to not have to worry about it in the first few months.

Shine, I looked it up and DUH, not the silver but "gentian violet" is what the local folks have been recommending for breastfeeding. I've copied the treatment instructions below just in case you find the baking soda/vinegar/probiotics/avoiding sugars doesn't work. (This info below is from our MW who is also a lactation specialist and traditional Chinese medicine practitioner. And has been doing homebirths (including PP care) and well-woman care for 20 years.)

I'm just editing to make sure its crystal clear... I've never tried this nor am I qualified to specifically recommend it. Just some information I've come across elsewhere.

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Gentian violet is a rapid cure for oral thrush and nipple yeast, and with the onslaught of such virulent strains in the last several years, it may be the only over-the-counter remedy to be truly effective for some people. Prescription Nystatin is rarely effective in recommended doses.

Purchase GV at a local pharmacy, but call around first as they sometimes have to order it. It costs about $3-5 for a half-ounce bottle, and you will need only a few drops. This remedy is recommended by La Leche League, many lactation consultants and pediatrician Jack Newman, nationally well-known for his strong support of breastfeeding and help in overcoming lactation problems.

Gentian violet is a lovely shade of deep purple, and it will stain clothing, carpeting and linens; it will stain human skin for only a day or two, but your baby will have a purple mouth and lips during treatment. Although not likely, it is possible for deep cuts on human skin to be tattooed purple. In rare cases, babies may develop mouth sores during use, though this has been most often experienced when using concentrations higher than 1%. Most nipple pain will decrease within 24 hours, and oral thrush will diminish during treatment.

To prepare:

• PURCHASE ONLY 1%.
• Use at bedtime only to minimize staining.
• Put dark sheets on bed and have dark towels available for absorbing leaking milk.
• Wear loose, old, dark clothing during treatment.

To use:

• Apply layer of un-petroleum jelly or other ointment around baby's mouth.
• Dip cotton swab quickly into GV and out.
• Put swab into baby's mouth; baby will reflexively suck.
• Within 10 seconds or so, entire inside of baby's mouth will be purple. Inspect to be sure palates, tongue and lips are fully coated.
• Dip clean swab and apply THIN layer to nipples and areolae.
• Repeat each night for 4 nights.
• One cycle of 4 nights is usually sufficient, but repeat if necessary.

Also:
• To replenish a normal bacterial balance in your intestines to overcome the yeast, administer probiotics to both mother and baby: give baby a daily dose of a child's probiotic, and take 4x the adult dose of an adult probiotic for yourself. Continue for at least 30 days.
• Limit sugars, fruit, juices and breads in your diet for at least 30 days.
• Yeast thrives in dark, moist places and colonies regrow in 2 hours. For yeast diaper rash, allow bottom to air dry as much as possible, and spritz bottom with a 50-50 vinegar-water solution at every diaper change. For very persistent diaper rash, use diluted tea tree oil or gentian violet.

What is Gentian Violet? From Wikipedia: Gentian violet (aka crystal violet, methyl violet 10B, hexamethyl pararosaniline chloride) is an antifungal agent used primarily in the Gram stain test and is used by hospitals for the treatment of serious heat burns and other injuries to the skin and gums. Gentian violet is not completely harmless and is considered carcinogenic after tests with feeding mice with very large doses of this chemical.
 
#54 ·
Quick pop-in....

Ben is not lettting me put him down....ever....He registers his dislike of being put down by emitting a loud, unhappy shriek, squeal which turns to crying then screaming. So, I am almost always carrying him around. My 22 month old has been having social anxiety and been really clingy, so I am just having a hard time getting on-line.

MelW--I worry about Ben gaining enough as well. Liam nursed every 90 minutes to 2 hours and would nurse for 60-90 minutes. On the other hand, Ben nurses every 2-3 hours and will only nurse for 10 minutes. He won't nurse at all any sooner than every 2 hours. He has slowed down in weight gain, so I worry too.
 
#55 ·
Shine- I had to make that decision this spring as well, it's a hard one! I always thought we'd HS, and we did for K. DD1 needs more, she is dyslexic though so we are on the list for a private school specializing in it for next year. This year she will go to another private school that will allow our therapist to go there for an hour a day to work with her. I'm hoping to get her used to a school environment before going to the other school, and that actually was a requirement for them since she had never been in school before.

As for me, I have been doing way too much on my foot and I'm paying for it now.
I'm hoping if I rest the rest of today that I will be to hobble around some this weekend.
 
#56 ·
Nora cracked the 10lb mark! (I think she's about 10-4, but my metric conversion skills have been known to fail). She's wee
My GP was good about her weight- she wants to watch it, but is generally non-alarmist. We got a referral to the pediatric immunologist, so we'll wait for that and keep monitoring her growth in the meantime. She's still "on the charts" for weight, but falling off in the weight/length ratio. Her height and head circumference keep growing nicely, and she showed off her major conversation skills in the appointment by talking to the doctor and I all through my pap smear. I'm of the mind that as long as she's still gaining and meeting milestones I'm not going to worry. At least that's what I tell myself...

Peony, I hope your foot heals soon!
 
#57 ·
Just wanted to say I love reading everybody's updates, even though I don't post a lot.

I think it's hilarious how LO signals the need to nurse now. He just stares wide-eyed at the chest of the nearest person, male or female, and goes, "Mrrrrrrrrrrr...."

Got my BabyHawk today (
) and got it dirty babywearing in the kitchen a mere 10 minutes after arrival.
I guess that's another reason having a few carriers is handy.
 
#58 ·
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Originally Posted by Sasharna View Post
Just wanted to say I love reading everybody's updates, even though I don't post a lot.

I think it's hilarious how LO signals the need to nurse now. He just stares wide-eyed at the chest of the nearest person, male or female, and goes, "Mrrrrrrrrrrr...."

Got my BabyHawk today (
) and got it dirty babywearing in the kitchen a mere 10 minutes after arrival.
I guess that's another reason having a few carriers is handy.
nak

l o v e my babyhawk...... and that's why I got it in dark brown..... so it hides stains better LOL!
 
#59 ·
i totally thought i replied to this thread but i guess i didnt. when does this ddc go bye bye? well, not a lot going on here. gwyn is three mos yesterday. i cant believe that! she is talking and laughing like crazy. still up once or twice a night but thats alright. i feel blessed that we figured out a way for me to stay home with her so i wont complain about having to get up and feed her. dh is in line for a promotion at work, so we are praying that works out too. we have had a very rough financial year, as im sure many of you have. for the 4th we are driving down to oregon to dh's family property to eat and hang out. we were supposed to camp, but i chickened out not wanting to sleep in a tent with a 3 month old. maybe if we had a camper. gwyn is about 15 lbs now and still nursing like a camp. glad to read everyone's updates, and hope everyone has a fun holiday weekend!
 
#60 ·
Official Stats are in @ 2 months and 7 days:
15 pounds
25.75 inches
97+ percentile for both

Nursing/eating cues:
-- SCREAMING
-- The Monkey Dance >> "ooo ooo ooo ooo" while waving arms and kicking legs (I should video this)
-- Lip smacking with tongue

Shots went well... I guess... there was some wailing until I picked Zack up when it was over. Then he smiled. So far, no reaction.

Softball game rained out.
 
#62 ·
I cant keep up, SO much going on with you guys!

for all the ones with problems

: for all the good news!

Sophia is doing good today, she had a mystery illness, fever and congestion and achy-looking for a couple days. A big dose of antibiotics and shes WAY better. She was all smiles today.

She is not liking the bottle, her reflux is so bad, she has the ability to suck and swallow but doesnt want to. Our options are keep her in the hospital and keep trying or put a permanent feeding tube in her stomach and take her home (while still working with the bottle). At first the tube freaked me out but now I dont give a crap what is hooked to her, I want her home...NOW.

The nurses have been making me do ALL her feeding, meds, cleaning, measuring, etc and have been quizzing me on amounts, names and reasons for meds. Ill be a pro by the time we get her home!


Im thinking about every single one of you guys!!!!!
 
#63 ·
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Originally Posted by nancy11 View Post
Official Stats are in @ 2 months and 7 days:
15 pounds
25.75 inches
97+ percentile for both

Nursing/eating cues:
-- SCREAMING
-- The Monkey Dance >> "ooo ooo ooo ooo" while waving arms and kicking legs (I should video this)
-- Lip smacking with tongue
I think Zack could eat Nora for lunch


Shasharna, I love that your baby growls at anyone for food. I had a friend's baby rooting on me recently- so funny!

Kate, enjoy the beach. And I'm glad to hear the positive IUD report. I'm going to do it- just need to fill the prescription and make the appointment.

inky, thanks for the update. Good luck on your trip! I think we lose the DDC in the next couple of weeks...
 
#65 ·
Mel--I think Kenady and Nora might be the runts of the group...LOL Kenady was 9 pounds almost 1 ounce last Saturday! she has gained 4 pounds since birth...

She just yells at me when she's hungry. She roots for about 1/2 a second and if you don't have the boob out and ready for her to eat, she screams at you until you put it in her mouth! She eats frequently, but not large quantities I think.

Gotta go, the yelling is starting...
 
#67 ·
I am feeling totally overwhelmed lately, so I'm not posting much, but it doesn't mean I'm not thinking about all of you! I'm just struggling to try to get stuff done around the house. Our yard is like a jungle, the garden is weedy, the carpets are dirty, the cats are peeing outside their box (not on the carpet though, thank God) and need to be taken to the vet, the cars need repairs, my parents and siblings are all needing some TLC, etc etc etc.
: At least the baby is clean, fed, and well cared for!
 
#68 ·
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Shine, DH and I are from the Midwest and are planning an epic Midwest roadtrip next summer. I'm sure we'll be coming through Iowa, so maybe you and I can meet up IRL!
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I meant to comment on this and forgot...PP brain! That would be sooo GREAT to meet up, though I hate that it's a year away
our babies won't be babies anymore! Not going to think about that!!!

And I'm so sorry that your having such a tough time lately...adjusting is so hard sometimes...DD1 has been an entirly different child, she's even had some potty accidents. People said this would happen but they said that about every other stage and she proved them wrong, I guess we are making up the years we got off with such a sweet child!

Just had a friend and her daughter visit from our old town, I used to nanny her daughter when she was 3rd/4th grade and hadn't seen her till now. She's a senior this year...time goes so fast! It was so sweet to see her playing with my P. N wouldn't let them hold her long though...but it's so nice that as a second time mommy I don't care what others think of me, when my baby cries I get her back! It was such a good visit! This friend helped plant the seeds in me about the world of chiropractic and natural health as well as a relationship with Jesus... It's amazing how you can know someone so breifly in life yet they can impact you in a great way.

Fireworks rained out....bummmer!
 
#69 ·
bodhitree. Clean, fed and well-cared for baby counts for a lot!

Nora seems to be coming into such a "personhood" in the last week. She's suddenly so in tune with her surroundings, talking so much and really seems to watch and listen to everything around her. I love watching her develop her own personality and way of being in the world
: And Neela is convinced that Nora "gets" and tells fart jokes. Nora farts or poops, then looks at us and giggles
 
#70 ·
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Originally Posted by MelW View Post
bodhitree. Clean, fed and well-cared for baby counts for a lot!

Nora seems to be coming into such a "personhood" in the last week. She's suddenly so in tune with her surroundings, talking so much and really seems to watch and listen to everything around her. I love watching her develop her own personality and way of being in the world
: And Neela is convinced that Nora "gets" and tells fart jokes. Nora farts or poops, then looks at us and giggles

farting babies are hilarious... PJ often sneezes and farts at the same time and sends DH and I reeling. Instant funniness.
 
#71 ·
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farting babies are hilarious... PJ often sneezes and farts at the same time and sends DH and I reeling. Instant funniness.
so far Phoebe hates farting, but delights her brother by doing it frequently. According to my dad the first joke I 'got' as a baby was about farts. So, its quite a family tradition around here...

she was 12 lbs 4oz about 10 days ago (at 8 weeks exactly). That is smaller than her brother was at the same age but certainly no runt.

ugh, crying baby, I can relate to everything else falling apart but at least baby is okay. gotta run! She wants momma 24-7, that is for sure.
 
#72 ·
got to see my nephew on fri! he is soooo tiny. and looks just like my sis but dark. my sis and I got to talk even w/8 other people in the room! (don't know how she colud stand that many- I never could. She's bfing, cding (thru a service- for now), cosleeping and bwing. But they circ the poor little guy- wanted to say so much about it but held my tongue and just prayed for him. but all in all so cool. he's very like going to be my only nephew/neice for a very long time- if ever again. she ahd a really hard and fast labor. 1 hr and 45mins from start to finish. he was transverse and tey had to use the vaccum to get him out
she tore front to back but she's in good spirits!

so found out my wagon's head gasket is blown and we don't ave the money to fix it right now
. going to be a long summer w/the kids at home. can't go anywhere except the grocery- less than a mile away! argh.

I love smilie babes.caleb charms everyone he meets w/his smile! and the giggles. he's been sleeping so well te past few nights- like I am talking 8-9 hrs in a stretch! mama's finally getting some sleep too now! If only ds4 would get on board and sleep past 7 now that would be heaven!


This whole week w/ds4 has been hard. he's been wild and very aggresive towards everyone. even bit dd7 leaving a bruise! so just wanted to tie him to his bed. this weekend I get a break/breather as they middles are at their dad's for it. he tried to get out of it so he could enjoy the 4th w/his friends alone but that was a no-go. they'd have more fun w/him. there's a picnic w/swimming and fireworks w/lots of the kids' friends and his. where we are just staying home (dh has to work in the am/noon) and are skipping fireworks for Caleb's sake (he's just too little this year). but it'll be nice to relax and just be!

hope everyone has a great 4th and weekend!
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#74 ·
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This whole week w/ds4 has been hard. he's been wild and very aggresive towards everyone.
this has been happening w/ my 4 1/2 year old too. Not all the time, but so much more than we are used to. I am trying to live through it, respond firmly and kindly, appropriately, and not get mad myself (easier typed than done)

blah

happy fourth of july everyone.
 
#75 ·
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Originally Posted by emmaegbert View Post
this has been happening w/ my 4 1/2 year old too. Not all the time, but so much more than we are used to. I am trying to live through it, respond firmly and kindly, appropriately, and not get mad myself (easier typed than done)

blah

happy fourth of july everyone.
Yup, my 4 year old isn't aggressive but whines and melts into tantrums way more! I hope this adjustment period adjusts soon so we can move onto more pleasant days....

Better go spend time with the fam...I hate that it's raining today, though we did get to go to the parade!


Nursed N in the MT with a nursing cover while walking through the grocery store, I love it when things like that work!


Thinkin of Dawn, Mischeivium and Lindsay...holiday's can be hard when your missing a peice of your family at home.
 
#76 ·
caleb rolled over today! 1st front to back and then back to front.. AND he's scooting (armyman crawl) its so soon..i don't think any of my others did this before 4 mnths esp the sccoting- sure he'll be crwling for really by 6 mnths. what a great 4th!


8:45 and we still haven't eaten yet- so hungry
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#77 ·
my little guy was on his belly and was propping himself on his arms. He flipped, or fell over onto his back - i don;t think it counts as flipping
 
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