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#1 of 17 Old 02-02-2009, 01:54 PM - Thread Starter
 
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I'm not sure if it's too early to worry, but I'm so paranoid about breech.

I feel kicks ALL over... up near the top of my uterus (past the belly button, not quite to the ribs), on both sides, AND down in the cervix (ouch).

However, sometimes I'm not sure if it's really kicks, or punches, or other kinds of squirms, or what.

Can you tell by the kicks if the baby is breech? When does that become an issue-- when does she settle down head-down? I swear sometimes I feel like she flips around and around several times a day.

I'm about 26 weeks.

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I asked one of my mw about this. I worry about breech sometimes too. She said she is the conservative one in the practice and likes to see them head down by 30 weeks. She starts encouraging them to turn at this point if they are not head down. But she said lots of mw don't worry until 32 weeks or later.
My primary mw will deliver breech babies, I just would rather good old fashioned head down!

Yes, you can tell position from kicks, but it is hard at this point. I'm 26 weeks too, and I think a lot of the bumps are head butts as well as kicks. By 30-ish weeks, baby is developed enough to more reliably pick out body parts--at least for me.
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Baby will usually settle head down by 34 weeks, after that may be time to try chiropractic treatment, breech tilt, maybe acupuncture, and a little later ECV. No worries yet, there should be tons of room for quite a while.
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My bradley instructor said that for first babies, if not head down by 31 weeks, you want to start actively trying to get the baby to turn.

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You can always try www.spinningbabies.com too to see if you can palpate and discern the baby's actual position. It could be hands you're feeling down low. Before I had my u/s last week, I'd feel hands low and feet high and thought there were two babies in there! But, just one. After seeing her position on the u/s, and matching that up with what I was feeling, now I can pretty much figure out her position by palpation.

My lo has been head down for a while now, but my dd#1 was breech at 34 weeks. At 37 we did an ECV (after I tried EVERYTHING natural). But, this pregnancy, I'm getting regular chiro adjustments which I think is a huge part of what is keeping her head down at this point.

But, for a day or so this past week she was head up. I think she turned after I was wearing my 2.75yo dd in the ergo and had to bend down a couple of times to pick things up off the floor. The strap was way down by my pubic bone, but I think it just squished her head. For a day and a half after that, I didn't feel any kicks up high (usually 7-8 times/day) and was feeling a bunch of bumps down low. But, the morning of the 2nd day after that, I could feel (with my hands) her head down by my pubic bone again and kicks up high. She has pretty much been there ever since.

You might take all baby's movement as a good sign that he/she has pleanty of fluid in there! When your fluid is low (somewhat concerning), baby doesn't have as much room to swim around. Like pp said, as you move into your 30's weeks (and baby's head-to-rump measurement is longer than the widthways space in your uterus) baby will usually settle into a comfortable vertex position and stay there most of the time.

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I'm 25 weeks today. At my last appt (6 days ago) when my mw was feeling the position, first she said it felt like a head up there in my fundus. Then he ran away from her hands, and was in a completely different position. Maybe transverse. Then you shoulda seen them trying to find the heartbeat. He would not stay still! First they had it on the right. Then on the left. Then up top! Basically, there's a LOT of room in there still and just because baby is head up right now, doesn't necessarily mean he will be in 5 minutes!

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There have been two times where I thought my little dude went head down but I can still feel him all over. I certainly hope he settles in the right position because I am not comfortable with a breech HBAC. Considering I have never pushed a baby out before.

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I agree with everyone else, you have lots of time left, don't stress over it. I am also feeling kicks all over and LOTS of them all night long : and know that this baby is turning turning churning churning in there all the time. My last babe was head down from 20 weeks. I'm hoping that this one has more room because it's smaller and not because my muscles are all stretched out!

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i think it is pretty normal for babes to flip flop for a while, esp for multips...right? i am going to be concerned if this one isn't head-down by 32 weeks. so, another 7 weeks of kicks all over the place. one day left side, next day right. then down to the cervix and sometimes under the ribs.

i start to worry about the cord in there. how can the cord not get all tangled up with her in there somersaulting?
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Since my first was a footling breech all the way until my water broke, I think about this a lot. I also talk to people a lot. SO many of the mothers I talk to say their babies didn't turn until 34+ (even 38 my friend told me yesterday!) weeks.

I'm doing my best just to imagine her turning (she's definitely head up right now), just thinking turning thoughts. I know I can't simply "not think about it" or even "not worry about it" but I can take that energy and move it into positive imagination.
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lol with dd I thought about the cord ALL the time! That tiny baby in there all alone without supervision with that STRANGULATION HAZARD! But hey, the cord can't prolapse if the baby is all tangled in it And I've heard plenty of stories of babies coming out with the cord around the neck/body multiple times and it not being an issue at all I figure its one of those things that we have absolutely zero control over, so worrying about it isn't productive.

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My little guy was transverse at my 26-wk appointment. I had thought I was feeling his round back on my right side, but found out it was actually his little round head that I was feeling. Now I'm a little more aware of when he's sideways and when he's head-down, although he's so active that a lot of times I can't tell what he's doing in there. When I notice him lying an unconventional way, I tend to poke and harass him till he moves to a better position. When he's head-down, I can usually tell because I feel like I'm straddling his head.

I try not to worry about it, because I remember DD being transverse at 26 wks, breech at 28 weeks, and then head-down from then on.

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my DD was footling breech from 20 weeks on, and i only felt kicks on my cervix!

i actually have a patch of stretch marks where her head was... she would push on my cervix, and her head would push up... it looked like a scene from aliens every time she stretched
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I was just going to ask where do you feel most movement if it is breech?
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lol with dd I thought about the cord ALL the time! That tiny baby in there all alone without supervision with that STRANGULATION HAZARD!
ROTFL Oh man I have been thinking that EXACT same thing.


Remind me to breathe in, breathe out, and not worry so much about every little damn thing.


I think right now I'm not going to worry about breech-- because I'm getting movement ALL over, not just in the cervix. For some reason that special joy is for Geology class. Just like the rib kicks are for strawberries.

I have a weird kid.

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Mine flips constantly, I stg.

I felt hiccups down looow tonight so he was heads down then, but I know he won't stay that way long.

My last two were super late turners (well past 35 weeks). I generally start paying more attention and worrying around 35 weeks.

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I'm only 23 weeks and feel movement ALL over! I can actually feel the baby's head with my hand-- it feels like a hard little ball about the size of small orange. Yesterday it was on one side, last night it was head down, and today it was on the other side! With my first pregnancy I had no trouble feeling from the outside that my son was head down in the third trimester. By then his head was so big it was super easy for me to feel.

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