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#31 of 50 Old 12-30-2005, 08:57 PM
 
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That's where the Christian allegory part plays in. Grace , mercy and forgiveness.
I haven't seen this movie, but these values are not uniquely Christian.
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I haven't seen this movie, but these values are not uniquely Christian.
Oh! I know that! I hope I didn't imply that they were. CSLewis was a christian and wrote it from that point of view. It was written as a Christian allegory. That's why I brought it up.

The scene with Lucy forgiving Mr.Tomnus was supposed to show mercy grace and forgiveness. ( that's what my Christian friend told me)
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Actually Lewis was very clear that this was not an allagory. It is a suposition. as in suppose a place like narnia existed and suppose it needed redeeming. how do you suppose it would it look in that world. It was never intended to be an allagory. but he did intend for Aslan to be the Christ figure and the Emoror across the Sea is God.

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My 5 y/o liked it, but my 10 y/o and I left the theater for the Aslan scene. It was terribly sad and frightening!! I still can't believe that was in a (marketed) children's movie.
That scene was important to the book, many events in the book led up to it.

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My apologies. I stand corrected.

I just found this: Did C.S. Lewis Create Narnia as an Allegory?

http://www.dummies.com/WileyCDA/Dumm...e/id-3206.html

Fascinating. And a bit odd.
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That scene was important to the book, many events in the book led up to it.
plathius~ I realize that. Visually, my dd and I found it quite terrifying. I was sad, but also angry at the White Witch. I could never watch Passion of the Christ, either. We read the books awhile ago and weren't prepared for the scene being big screened. The movie also moved quite a bit faster than the books, making the jumps more abrupt for us. Dd is quite sensitive (as is Ben) and I feel I should have viewed the movie first or just not taken them. My poor judgement.

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There are a lot of movies that we watch before we let ds see them, for the reasons you mentioned.

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jen - sorry if I sounded snarky. that was not my intention. people get mad because as an allagory it is not a very good one. also I think it is cool as a jenre? to have supposition. It would be a fun way to write that I never learned about in school. So I think it is cool.

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Yes, Lucy going with Mr. Tumnus so quickly was, uh, interesting...faun or not

My dd is still talking about it and how scary it was. She has read Harry Potter and even seen some of the films...but she felt 'Narnia' was scarier. I think some of it went over Ben's head, but I regret taking him and hope some of those images have left him.
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Hi Joan!!

FWIW, dd and I LOVE Harry Potter. (We didn't read any of the books, she's not there yet , but we both loved the movies.) Though there is violence, it didn't compare to the violence/torture and intensity of Narnia. It wasn't killing for the sake of killing and hating for the sake of hating.
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Hi Joan!!

FWIW, dd and I LOVE Harry Potter. (We didn't read any of the books, she's not there yet , but we both loved the movies.) Though there is violence, it didn't compare to the violence/torture and intensity of Narnia. It wasn't killing for the sake of killing and hating for the sake of hating.
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Yes, that's exactly it.

As far as not seeing it before we took the kids, I think we got a little over exicted with it being the holiday (we saw it the week before Christmas). The kids saw the trailer and Ben was eager to see it.

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jen - sorry if I sounded snarky. that was not my intention. people get mad because as an allagory it is not a very good one. also I think it is cool as a jenre? to have supposition. It would be a fun way to write that I never learned about in school. So I think it is cool.
Nope you didn't sound snarky. I know that wasn't your intention.

I have been told for years that Lewis wrote that as an allegory. I'm glad you corrected me. I'd never heard of "supposititon". I kinda wonder if Lewis made it up on his own. It kinda seems like splitting hairs , imo.
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We saw it yesterday. I had my reservations, but all in all the kids did very well. Alexander, who is 4, spent a couple of scenes in the hallway getting candy (which I asked for at specific times) with Daddy. Holden snoozed on my lap through most of the movie.

I agree with the person who likened the violence in Narnia to the LOTR. I thought that as well.

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umbrella - have you read the book. I really think the down played the battle scenes.
That's rather irrelevant, imo, regarding the issue of ratings for the movie. This was extremely violent for something being portrayed as "for children."
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I'd never heard of "supposititon". I kinda wonder if Lewis made it up on his own.
According to the link that was posted (and a quick search), it seems that Lewis did make up this genre.
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This was extremely violent for something being portrayed as "for children."
Yes, it does seem odd to me that this would be marketed for "children". Is it? I honestly haven't seen any of the marketing....

I think the appropriateness of this movie would depend on the child. Although I do think it would be a perfect movie for older kids/teens. So still children--but not little kids.
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I just didn't think it was that violent. especially if you knew the story. I thought most of the violent scenes were lame an unbelieveable. more like demo fighting in martial arts (the wsord fight between peter and the witch especially).

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I thought the TORTURE/ MURDER scene of Aslan was horrific. I even knew he was computer genrated. Ellie kept her head in my lap for the battle scenes, we left the theater as Aslan left the girls in the forest. I only peeked in mysel and was sorry I did.

Yes, the movie was a Disney movie and marketed to children.

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This is the funniest little rap video spoof - a couple on their way to see Narnia! This might not be one you'll want to show your kids, unless you have no objection to rap videos:

http://mp.danwho.net/index.php?id=snl_chronic_narnia

I wasn't able to view it on my Mac - needed a plug-in I don't have - but my son showed it to me on his PC. - Lillian
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Disney heavily marketed the movie (on the Disney Channel especially).

I know Disney ethics are questionable as it is (big business at the expense of children's welfare), but it's a sad money-hungry day when you have to screen a Disney movie (intended for children) before letting your kids see it.




Aslan scene vs. movies w/a swear word= same rating (PG)
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I have sen that rap. it is hilarious!!

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