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I'd love to hear what you end up doing.

My dd has been really taken with the Jesus infancy narrative for about 2 months now. .
This is so true w/ my DD Grace! Our DD are both Grace On Christmas morning she looked through her stocking which we left in her room and then ran out to the front room and put baby Jesus in the nativities and went back to her room to play w/ her stocking stuff.

If you are looking for future homeschooling stuff, avoid Seton IMO. Way more structure than I want right now and the director advocates hitting your child. I was really dissapointed when I read that in the Catholic Homeschooling book. Have you looked into CHC? I'm getting a few picture book things. I post more, Dyson's upset and need to start breakfast!
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forgot to ask any one here done writing w/o tears? Just curious what your thoughts might be

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forgot to ask any one here done writing w/o tears? Just curious what your thoughts might be
I've heard very good things about it, and I found a copy of the first book super cheap on eBay, so BeanBean and I will be trying it whenever it gets here (probably sometime late this week/early next week). I'll let you know how it works in real life.

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If you are looking for future homeschooling stuff, avoid Seton IMO. Way more structure than I want right now and the director advocates hitting your child.
Eek!

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No. We're unschooling, so unless dd asks for packaged curricula, we're probably not going to get any.

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forgot to ask any one here done writing w/o tears? Just curious what your thoughts might be
I was thinking of using this once ds#1 showed interest/asked for help with writing. Right now his fine motor skills are a year or so behind his other skills, so to speak, so I know it'd only frustrate him at this time. But, we are starting to practice "writing" letters with our fingers just to get used to the different movements.

We did just get our Explode the Code books 1 & 1 1/2 (I don't remember if I mentioned that here or not). Ds#1 was very leary at first, but when he realized he could pretty much already read all the words in the first lesson, he loosened right up and had fun. He's still working on being able to separate sounds within words (for instance, in /cat/, hearing that the /c/ comes first, the /a/ second, and the /t/ last), so we are practicing that together.

And he's just basically taught himself how to count to 100 and recognize the numbers. We have a number chart and he's been going up to it a couple times a day reading his numbers. Today was the first day that he was pretty accurate when he got to "30, 40, 50, etc" - before it would be "28, 29, 20-10, 20-11 ... and then the same when he would get to 39, 30-10 ... ." He's quite the sponge (when he's willing ) and ds#2 is soaking it all up too (he LOVES to count and will bring two things to us and yell "TWO!" and also go up to the number chart after ds#1 is done and pretend to count the numbers too).

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I have the same cheapy hole punch. If I could find one that I could be certain would punch through felt, though, it would probably be a worthwhile investment to me.
Ok, I was in JoAnn's today & they had a hole punch in the scrapbooking section that specific listed felt as one of hte things it could punch through. It was only like $3 (& if you're not as into instant gratification as me, you could use one of the 40% off one regular priced item coupons that they send out pretty often & then it'd be REALLY cheap LOL) so I went ahead & got it. I'll try it later tonight & let you know if it works, but I assume it will since it says it does LOL.
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Ok, I was in JoAnn's today & they had a hole punch in the scrapbooking section that specific listed felt as one of hte things it could punch through. It was only like $3 (& if you're not as into instant gratification as me, you could use one of the 40% off one regular priced item coupons that they send out pretty often & then it'd be REALLY cheap LOL) so I went ahead & got it. I'll try it later tonight & let you know if it works, but I assume it will since it says it does LOL.
I get their coupons by mail and email, and have one right now that is 50% off a regular priced item, but it expires tomorrow ... if anyone is interested, email me at bmontrella @ verizon . net (minus the spaces) and I'll forward you the coupon (as far as I can tell it doesn't say you can't share the email with friends - the coupon itself says reproductions aren't accepted, but seeing as the coupon has to be printed out to begin with, I guess maybe they mean no photo-copies of it ... I've taken in multiple coupons I've printed out on my computer and they never said it wasn't okay).

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Ok, I was in JoAnn's today & they had a hole punch in the scrapbooking section that specific listed felt as one of hte things it could punch through. It was only like $3 (& if you're not as into instant gratification as me, you could use one of the 40% off one regular priced item coupons that they send out pretty often & then it'd be REALLY cheap LOL) so I went ahead & got it. I'll try it later tonight & let you know if it works, but I assume it will since it says it does LOL.


I was just there to pick up. yep. felt. I wish I read this earlier!

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This seemed like a good place to post this....
Any art ideas for 18-24 month old?

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ok tried the hole punch, it's a smaller hole than a standard hole punch, but they may have had different sizes there, I just grabbed one. It DOES punch through felt. Took me 2 times to punch the hole completely but I don't think I pushed hard enough the first time.

But it DOES work
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Any art ideas for 18-24 month old?
Hope this stuff doesn't sound too obvious but...

- non-toxic painting with one or two colors, either fingerpaint or with a brush or sponge
- body painting
- finger "painting" on foil or plastic with food dyed (or plain) shaving cream
- homemade playdough: let toddler join in the pouring and stirring process, then kneed and work the playdough
- sidewalk chalk, soap crayons, and tub paint, to satisfy the urge to decorate "off limits" surfaces
- regular crayons, pens, and pencils, with a personal notebook and/or lots and lots of affordable paper to accomodate the incredibly prolific scribbling they are capable of! I often read that toddlers should only be given special fat crayons to minimize frustration, but I don't get that at all. IME, little hands are all too capable of finding and handling the tiniest objects hidden in the corners of the floor -- they figure out regular writing implements pretty quickly and these can only help their fine motor skills.

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I often read that toddlers should only be given special fat crayons to minimize frustration, but I don't get that at all. IME, little hands are all too capable of finding and handling the tiniest objects hidden in the corners of the floor -- they figure out regular writing implements pretty quickly and these can only help their fine motor skills.
From what I understand, this is one of the differences between HWT and other handwriting programs. While most programs tell you to give younger children those fat pencils, HWT recommends pencils of average diameter and short length (because most of the bad grips are difficult/impossible to maintain on a super short pencil). I remember being incredibly frustrated by the fat pencils the first time that I was given one. I already knew how to write, and had always used regular pencils to do it, but this teacher decided that I didn't know how to write because I had a hard time holding the gigantic pencil. Yick.

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I'll have to go back and read the whole thread when I have time, but I just wanted to introduce himself. My name is Nicole. I'm a SAHM to Ben, 27 months, and Lauren, 12 months. I've just started thinking about adding a bit more routine to our days. Prior to having my children, I hadn't been around them, so I have been underestimating them. I was floored when I discovered that my ds knows his letters already. (He "reads" to me, but he's reading the letters instead of the words. It's so cute. )

I want to encourage him and help him learn, but I don't want to push him either.

Ben's interests are the alphabet, numbers, animals and animal sounds, water, and trains. Lauren's into whatever her brother has and playing with balls.
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Thanks for the welcome! I haven't been to the pleased to meet you forum yet. Thanks for the direction.
I need to know how you all deal with the younger siblings. While I am working with dd (3 yrs) I've been having a hard time with ds (17mo). Dance time, circle time is fine. Even cooking isn't so bad. Painting all he wants to do is get into and spill water everywhere, or tear up paper that we are using when we were doing paper weaving. I'm really trying to incorporate him into everything, but it is really hard. He's sooooo active And he wants to be smack in the middle of the action. He climbs on the table, on the counters, and is very loud when he wants something I can't let him have. . I'd love any and all advice.

Also, I am very new to all of this and I am interested in incorporating some of the waldorf styles into my day, has anyone had any experience with this?

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Hmm. How about setting up a parallel activity for your 17mo? For example, if what he's interested in is the water, maybe he could stand on a chair at the sink and do his water experiments while your dd is painting at the table. Or he could sit naked in the bathtub with his own homemade paint that's ok to make a mess with. Or set aside some paper for him to tear up. Or only do art during his nap. (This came up on the other thread, and like I said there, kids have such different personalities -- if I had had my dd2 first and my dd1 second, I am not at all sure my above suggestions would have been enough to contain her enthusiasm. They're the sort of thing I do with dd2, though.)

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Has anyone here heard of or used Reading Rods? I read about them in someone's blog somewhere and thought they looked pretty cool. Ds#1 is starting to get letters/sounds/words, and I figured this would be yet another medium for him to use to explore as his writing/fine motor will be a while behind.

Last night he was trying to read the words "railroad crossing" on one of the signs for his train tracks. It was cute listening to him sound out the letters - but he was using short vowel sounds because that's what we've been working on. So, I took a moment to let him know that /ai/ makes the long /a/ sound. So, he got "rail" - then I told him that /oa/ makes the long /o/ sound and he got "road". From there we sounded out "crossing" together. He was pretty happy with himself when he was able to read the whole thing.

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Thanks for the suggestions, I will probablt try out the playing in the kitchen sink one today. Does anyone have a recipe for bathtub paint?
We actually do try to do the more messy projects (like felt making) when he's asleep. I think it would have been very different if my ds was first. My dd is much less destructive! I'll just keep working on it and eventually something will click, I'm sure
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Does anyone have a recipe for bathtub paint?
I've seen recipes involving dish detergent but never tried them. I've made edible "paint" using a little flour (or cornstarch), water, and food coloring. Susan Striker gives this recipe: 1 egg yolk, 2 tablespoons water, and a few drops of food coloring. I would worry that the raw egg would end up getting eaten, but that may reflect excessive paranoia on my part about the risk of harmful bacteria in eggs.

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I've seen recipes involving dish detergent but never tried them. I've made edible "paint" using a little flour (or cornstarch), water, and food coloring. Susan Striker gives this recipe: 1 egg yolk, 2 tablespoons water, and a few drops of food coloring. I would worry that the raw egg would end up getting eaten, but that may reflect excessive paranoia on my part about the risk of harmful bacteria in eggs.
For me, that wouldn't be paranoia; it would be common sense. My daughter *will* put anything that she can hold into her mouth. We've been watching the rubber buttons from a calculator pass through her diapers this week ( don't ask ). I would never give her a recipe for anything involving raw egg; she'd probably eat the whole thing.

Today I visited an art museum that offers classes to preschool aged children and filled out an application for financial aid. : I think that would be so cool for BeanBean! I have no idea whether or not he'll like it, but it's only four classes so it's not like a long-term commitment.

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For me, that wouldn't be paranoia; it would be common sense. My daughter *will* put anything that she can hold into her mouth. We've been watching the rubber buttons from a calculator pass through her diapers this week ( don't ask ). I would never give her a recipe for anything involving raw egg; she'd probably eat the whole thing.

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Hope it is ok to just jump in. I have three girls. 4.5, 2.5 and 8 months. Right now we are just doing our thing- we spend a lot of time just being. We walk outside a lot, we do projects, we try to experience as much as we can.

One things, the oldest is beginning to really dig letters and wants to read so very badly. She is making great progress and has a real drive to learn this. You never see her without her little travel magnadoodle in hand. lol.

I'm also trying to decide if I want to continue answering her questions as they come or if I want to do a formal plan with her... she learns well from table top book and pencil activities and it is her preferred way to learn. As soon as the other two take a nap she asks if we can sit down and do letter work and I just wonder if I should have a plan for those times or just sit and draw letters and talk about their sounds as we have been.

Thoughts?

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I have a question?
Around what age do kids usually start learning to write? My dd who is almost 3, is really into trying to draw, now she's trying to draw shapes. She tries to do letters and numbers but just can't get the hang of it but I'm not worried because I thought she's too young for that anyways but she really wants to. So I'm just curious at what age they are normally ready to write? I knkow all kids are different but do they learn to write in kindergarden? I know they do in first grade but wasn't sure if they did before that?
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Around what age do kids usually start learning to write? My dd who is almost 3, is really into trying to draw, now she's trying to draw shapes. She tries to do letters and numbers but just can't get the hang of it but I'm not worried because I thought she's too young for that anyways but she really wants to. So I'm just curious at what age they are normally ready to write? I knkow all kids are different but do they learn to write in kindergarden? I know they do in first grade but wasn't sure if they did before that?
I have no idea... BeanBean was completely uninterested in writing or drawing until a few weeks ago, when he suddenly developed an intense interest. He's still not terribly adept, but he's working hard and I think that he'll really benefit from the introduction of a formal writing program (which will happen whenever HWT gets here). BooBah has always been interested in writing, and she'll probably learn to write as she learns to read (ASAP, if she has anything to say about it!). It's all good. But yeah, I have no clue how old kids are when they typically learn to write... I bet Google would help.

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My dd showed an interest at a young age to, both in fact- my soon to be 3 year old loves to draw circles and attempting other shapes and letters as well.

I think each child is different and if you watch her and answer her questions, and show her what she wants to be shown as you go she will get it in her right time. My oldest wrote her name spontaneously at about 3.5 and it was all jumbled, the letters went from right to left and a couple were mixed up. Now at 4.5 she can write her name with capitals or lower case, from left to right in a rather uniform size. She can write her other letters as well- but not as efficiently as her name. That is her norm, but I think it would also be completely normal if she didn't start getting these thigns until 6 or 7.
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anyone else's little one doing this? Grace knows her name and the letters...being the ones that go in her name not necc. the name of the letter. She only knows G and A for a name basically b/c I am taking a more laid back approach ala unschooling-waldorfy kinda way.

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she can write her name GRACE, b ut sometimes she'll write ECARG and to bout the R is backward! she doesn't start w/ E-C-A-R-G she'll start w/ G and then write from right to left. Any thoughts?
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I'm carrie mom to cameron 3 and kathleen 16 mos. I knew I wanted to homeschool since cameron was born. I have a teaching degree for birth thru 3rd grade and also a teaching license and felt ti was a shame to not use them so wha tbetter way to put them to use thatn to use them with my own child. BAscially what we do right now is unschool with a little structure mixed in. Cameron does attend a preschool outside of the home 2 days a week, purely for myself to have soem 1-1 time with Kathleen. (Also it;s a Christian school adn is more emphasis on religion and values than on "SCHOOL". ) He's a big fan of teh computer and learning from that as well as using workbooks (much to my dismay actually!) He's been writing him name by himself since last June and has recently (Nov) gotten really interested in writing all kinds of letter and words (inventive spelling) and drawing shapes and objects. Dinosaur are a big passion so we are really into learnign abotu them. (trip to Dino land in CT planned fo rthis spring) He really got excited about them when we went ot Animal Kingdom at Disney World and explored teh Dino area of the park. Basically a day for us is kind of random,with not a set plan as we have another 18 month old that i care for at our house form 7-4 each day, so it kind of has to go around the two younger kids schedules. Mostly right now we are reading A LOT> as this is another hugh passion of his. He can read at a late k early first grade level and loves to read to the girls. For Kathleen we do shape sorters adn colors a lot casue that's whaat she's into . Oh and counting she LOVES to count things. They both seem to tlearn really well through music so much of our day is spent singing adn dancing and makign up silly songs abotu things. but it;s fun (cant' wait to learn more from all of you!) Sorry this got long. adn sorry for hte spelling errors, I'm NAK and kathleen keeps squirming!
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anyone else's little one doing this? Grace knows her name and the letters...being the ones that go in her name not necc. the name of the letter. She only knows G and A for a name basically b/c I am taking a more laid back approach ala unschooling-waldorfy kinda way.

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she can write her name GRACE, b ut sometimes she'll write ECARG and to bout the R is backward! she doesn't start w/ E-C-A-R-G she'll start w/ G and then write from right to left. Any thoughts?

What she is doing (based on my eduacational background) is perfectly normal. Children, as tehy learn to write, experiment with things to see if they are still teh same (Does that make sense?) They try to write their name forward, backwards, adn mix teh letters up, try all uppercase and all lowercase, etc. It's part of learning to understand print. She is aware that those letters make up her name and she knows they will still be part of her name regardless how they are written out. (At leat that is what it appears to be). Cameron does the same thing, except that he knows all the letters and they sounds they make and what they stand for. (basically that he know's a C is a C and not just a letter in his name) but he also knows that they all need to be in his name to make his name. and he will tell you that it spells cameron this way pointing right to left, if i have it written noremac(with the letters reversed), but he also knows that you read things from left to righ tso will not be satisfyied that it really is his name unless it is written Cameron. (So that it can be "read") I think once they understand teh left to right progression of reading and writing that a lot of theri expermentation with rearranging letters adn such stops. As it no longer makes logical sese to them to have a word written rigth to left . Hope i havent' confused you more
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she can write her name GRACE, b ut sometimes she'll write ECARG and to bout the R is backward! she doesn't start w/ E-C-A-R-G she'll start w/ G and then write from right to left. Any thoughts?
Yep, and at this age, it's nothing to worry about. My son just started consistently writing his name the "correct" direction, and he's 4.5. If you think of it from their perspective - a chair, a box, a car ... they are all the same no matter which direction they are sitting, how you look at them, or if you tip them over. Suddenly, though, they are introduced to numbers and letters that are very specific as to direction - a "b" is only a "b" if facing the right way. Turn it around and you can have a "d", "p", or "q". When I was teaching elementary and reading, we didn't worry about reversals until 6 or 7 - most Kinder's will still write things in mirror image and it's not really a big deal. Their brains are still processing how it all works together and why letters and numbers play by different rules.

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This past week, I have been researching and researching different preschool options for my toddler. She will be 3 1/2 years old by next Sept. and after reading your thread and looking at some of the wonderful websites, I'm going to homeschool her next year. I am so excited! We will probably do a Parent-Toddler Waldorf Class only one day a week and Kindermusik. I feel like that will be enough. I still need so much guidance though on how to homeschool.

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