We also use regular size pencils and pens, always have. Do those big horse-leg sized pencils help kids write better? Has anyone seen a difference when using the bigger ones?
Four is very, very young for writing. Many kids aren't developmently ready to write until they 6 or 7 or even older. You could try using a pencil grip to make it easier for her to get her fingers in the right spots. You could find one at a teacher supply store or a office supply store. My kids don't like the big big pencils, but yours might. Other than that, I would minimize how much time she spends on these kinds of activities so that she doesn't form bad habits. I think that doing something like practicing letter or number writing with the pencil held wrong is waste of time, and there are so many other wonderful educational things that a four year old can do that don't require a pencil at all.
DD has liked writing for a long time, so I don't think there is any stopping her. It's amazing how legible her writing is considering they way she holds the pencil. Guess I'll try that grip thing, I've never seen one, but I've never looked either!
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You can do prewriting tasks to work on grip, for example wringing a sponge with water transferrring from one bowl to another, clothespins around a basket rim, transferring beans using a spoon, pouring water w/ a small pitcher, toast or sugar tongs to fill an empty ice cube tray with small squares of cut-sponges, clay or play-doh, painting with q-tips and watercolors, tweezers vs field corn, etc...
This is your child and you should do whatever feels right to you.
Leslie in MD
I have good penmanship and graduated summa cum laude....I don't think it matters....
but then I speak from my own experience only and have no expertise on the subject
So, forcing / insisting, is inadvisable. Suggesting, or showing her how you do it every-now-and-then may offer her insite at the time she is ready.
Sorry to see Kumon's tenticles have reached US shores, but then I should not be surprised I suppose.
Hope this helps
Anyway, I digress. I do think it's important that they hold the pencil correctly, but I also think 4 is too young to "worry" but to gently correct her. I have seen an improvement in my son's penmanship...could also be that we work on it more then they did in PS, too....
She also had much to say about scissors. It was interesting.
I hear what you are saying. My mother always chastises me for not "teaching" him the correct way-- which by the way, I have, but he is not interested yet. I think that that is the key word-- "yet." He will do it when he is able and ready. Right now he loves to use chalk on the chalkboard and erase with ease. Last week he wrote " I love you " all on his own when I was having a hard day. ( I took a picture ).
Granted my son is very young, too, but think about our progression with skills-- it is very rare that we are able to just jump right in with the correct form. Don't most skiers start off with basics on the bunny hill? Just make it fun and praise them often-- learning is fun not perfection
BTW, I have one of those cushy pencil grips and my dd wasn't a big fan of it but using it for about a week actually did seem to get her to grip the pencil properly. (I'm lefty and she's righty so I wasn't sure how it would look to her following my example; it didn't seem to matter though) I ordered it from Sycamore Tree. It's soft, unlike those triangle hard plastic things you seem to find most often in stores. However, I have seen them at one teacher's store. Good luck.
I would go for the pencil grips. She is really on the young side of writing skills/fine motor skills.
My 3 yr old uses the triangular shaped ones mention. She just does not have the fine motor skills to use a small pincle.
How they hold the pencil can matter very much. If they are doing it fisted they can not have control over writing.
My son 7 was allowed in Public School to do it what ever way for K. Now I have had to work with him because his writing was horrible. Come to find out that all the kids in his K teachers class had to have some sort of remedial writing training. These kids writing were no were near the others.
We use multi-colored line paper and pencil grips. His looks like little balls that have indents were he is suppose to put his fingers.
I would use the triangler ones first. She might not be able to do it developmentally. I would not worry too much.