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I saw this elsewhere and wanted to put it it my siggie..It is too offensive??

"We homeschool because we've seen the village, and don't want it raising our children!"


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Well, I like it, but I'm odd that way.

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Lol I used to have a modified vertion of that on my siggy at another board. I stole it from someone on here. :
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I have seen that before and always thought it was funny. may be offensive though to people without a good sense of humor.

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I like it But there is always someone that will be offended by anything.
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I think it's funny, too. This may be naive, but the people who would find that offensive would be the village. Right? Or maybe just have more faith in the village than others...
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I think it's funny, too. This may be naive, but the people who would find that offensive would be the village. Right? Or maybe just have more faith in the village than others...
That's what I was thinking. "The Village" would be offended!!

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See, I'm homeschooling because I *do* want the village "raising" my child (well, I don't like the whole idea of "raising" children, but that's another story... ). I want the village to be part of her life, and I want her to know lots of people and learn from them and with them. I don't want her spending her days in a school with the same adult and kids day after day. I love the diversity of opinions and experiences the whole world has to offer.

To me, the quote seems to imply that you are homeschooling to avoid having your children exposed to opinions and ideas besides the ones you want to teach them... that you're homeschooling to keep them away from the world. I suppose that I would identify more with the village than with you, and some people might take it to mean that you think you're better than everyone else... I dunno. I wouldn't feel offended, but I would probably feel the need to assure people that not all homeschoolers believe that, if it was mentioned somewhere...

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That slogan pretty much captures why even I feel homeschooling is a better choice, and I work in the public school system.
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I always thought that bumper sticker was a dig at the Clinton administration.

Having a supportive village/community in which to parent would be my ideal, but Hilary's speech took that nice, warm cozy idea and turned it into something uncomfortable. I don't want The Government raising my kids.

Is the bumper sticker offensive? Someone is always going to be offended. If you take the quote in its original meaning, I guess we should all be offended, as we are the village.

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See, I'm homeschooling because I *do* want the village "raising" my child (well, I don't like the whole idea of "raising" children, but that's another story... ). I want the village to be part of her life, and I want her to know lots of people and learn from them and with them. I don't want her spending her days in a school with the same adult and kids day after day. I love the diversity of opinions and experiences the whole world has to offer.

To me, the quote seems to imply that you are homeschooling to avoid having your children exposed to opinions and ideas besides the ones you want to teach them... that you're homeschooling to keep them away from the world. I suppose that I would identify more with the village than with you, and some people might take it to mean that you think you're better than everyone else... I dunno. I wouldn't feel offended, but I would probably feel the need to assure people that not all homeschoolers believe that, if it was mentioned somewhere...

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Ditto, you put that into better words than I would have come up with Dar.

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I always thought that bumper sticker was a dig at the Clinton administration.

... but Hilary's speech took that nice, warm cozy idea and turned it into something uncomfortable. I don't want The Government raising my kids.

Is the bumper sticker offensive? Someone is always going to be offended. If you take the quote in it's original meaning, I guess we should all be offended, as we are the village.

That is how I take it as well. I also agree that I DON'T want the "village"(understood as "the government") helping me "raise my children".

I get a good chuckle out of that bumper sticker as well, but because I agree with it. If someone dissagreed (was a government school worshiper), I'm sure they'd be offended.

I don't believe in the "village raising the children", I believe in the parents doing it, and part of being the parent is to get their children out into real life situations and interact with people of the community and out outside of it. I don't consider doing that as the "village raising the children", rather experiencing a diversity in real world situations. The "village" is not in my home helping me care for my children, do the majority of their education, guiding them with values as a family we hold dear, nor paying for any of my childrens wants or needs. In fact, I don't wish for anyone else to hold that possition in my childrens lives.

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I don't find it offensive. But it seems to me to be based on an underlying attitude that most people (the "village," the mainstream, people who aren't part of a carefully selected elite) are no good. If that's not the attitude you mean to express, you might want to reconsider the .sig.

(Obviously, if it *is* the attitude you mean to express, then pay me no mind.)

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What Dar said.
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I think I'd only want the village to raise my child with me if it was an ACTUAL village, kwim? If I lived in a little town of population just a few hundred, a significant percentage of them related to me, in a close-knit community, that sentiment would have some valid meaning.

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I like it. I find it funny...and true!
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I think it is funny
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See, I'm homeschooling because I *do* want the village "raising" my child (well, I don't like the whole idea of "raising" children, but that's another story... ). I want the village to be part of her life, and I want her to know lots of people and learn from them and with them. I don't want her spending her days in a school with the same adult and kids day after day. I love the diversity of opinions and experiences the whole world has to offer.

To me, the quote seems to imply that you are homeschooling to avoid having your children exposed to opinions and ideas besides the ones you want to teach them... that you're homeschooling to keep them away from the world. I suppose that I would identify more with the village than with you, and some people might take it to mean that you think you're better than everyone else... I dunno. I wouldn't feel offended, but I would probably feel the need to assure people that not all homeschoolers believe that, if it was mentioned somewhere...

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I was kinda taking the idea of a "village" as the government. I firmly believe that I can and should do a better job than that government would do in raising my child. But I guess in one sense I am homeschooling to keep them away from the "world" until they're old enough to be able to say NO to things that are inappropriate or wrong.

I wish I personally I had more of a network or village of people that would want to have a hand in helping with my kids. But sadly I don't.

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I don't find it offensive; I find it funny and pretty accurate to how I feel. But like OPs said, I think it's important to know who you mean by "the village." I take it to mean the government, and I don't want that village raising my children. But a variety of caring people who want the best for my children and who expose them to new and different ideas and things, but who ultimately leave me in charge, well, that would be much more welcomed.

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I know what you mean, and I think it's cute, but I can be unbearably pedantic so I have to point out that there is a difference between a village and an institution. I prefer to keep my kids out of school so they can participate in a village instead of being raised in an institution, kwim?
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I think it can be construed as elitist. It's separating homeschoolers from everyone else. I world like to think my kids have a lot to learn from just about everyone whether they are in "the world of homeschooling" or not. I guess it's how you interpret what the village is.

If it were a bumper sticker, I guess I wouldn't put it on my car because I would feel like it would make people feel bad about themselves. In other words I would want to convey a more positive saying about homeschooling.
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When I see that slogan used, I interpret it to mean something like, "We homeschool so that those secular humanist liberals who have taken over public schools won't be able to indoctrinate our children into socialism and homosexual propaganda." The "village" reference sounds like a jab at Hillary Clinton, and since she's the conservatives' favored bogeyman, that's what it says to me.

I don't find it "offensive," but it certainly represents a worldview I don't agree with.
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When I see that slogan used, I interpret it to mean something like, "We homeschool so that those secular humanist liberals who have taken over public schools won't be able to indoctrinate our children into socialism and homosexual propaganda." The "village" reference sounds like a jab at Hillary Clinton, and since she's the conservatives' favored bogeyman, that's what it says to me.

I don't find it "offensive," but it certainly represents a worldview I don't agree with.
I couldn't articulate this clearly, but that's how I interpret it too.

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I was thinking, though, that if that bumper sticker was next to the "Somewhere in Texas, a village is missing its idiot." that could be a whole 'nother thing.

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I always thought that bumper sticker was a dig at the Clinton administration.
Yeah. I wouldn't be offended, but I would think you were a Republican and/or a evangelic Christian.
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Yeah. I wouldn't be offended, but I would think you were a Republican and/or a evangelic Christian.
I would, too.

Rick Santorum wrote a book to rebut Hilary's, called "It Takes a Family"... and if I had to come down on the side of one or the other, I choose Hilary.

I've never considered the "village" to be the government, though, and neither does Hilary's book, as I recall. She does mentions teachers, but also clergymen, doctors, neighbors, coaches... but my idea of the village goes beyond Hilary's - she didn't invent the saying, although she did popularize it - to the original meaning, wherever it came from (opinions vary).

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As for the quote, I don't think it is offensive. Not what i agree with, but not offensive.

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Lol I used to have a modified vertion of that on my siggy at another board. I stole it from someone on here. :
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