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Mother wins dead son sperm case
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The dead man, soldier Keivin Cohen, was killed in the Gaza Strip in 2002.

A court ruled in favour of his parents who had the sperm extracted after his death, although he had not left a will.
It's not often I think something is just plain wrong. I'm not a black and white thinker on most subjects. But this twist on the 'what will happen next in the IVF field' saga is just too much. I had to read this several times to see if I missed something - but no, son didn't leave instructions regarding his sperm, his sperm wasn't already stored somewhere, he had no partner wanting to be impregnated... :

I don't know why, but the fact that it was his parents doing this and not a partner just seems to make it 'icky'. I appreciate his parents wanting something to remember him by, but to go so far as to extract his sperm after he is dead :
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The Cohens appealed for volunteers who were willing to be impregnated with the sperm and raise the child.
I can see looking for a surrogate... but it seems odd to want to find a volunteer to raise your grandchild.

ETA: Well, I can't even really understand looking for a surrogate, since I can't imagine doing what these parents did (unless there is more to the story, very possible I'm sure, such as the son told his parents about wanting this done but hadn't yet put anything about it in his will), but if I were in a position to be looking for a surrogate, then it would be so I could raise the child myself.

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It's a very weird story. I wonder why the hospital extracted the sperm in the first place when he died... is this standard-operating-procedure???

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At least it's not creepy or anything.
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It's a very weird story. I wonder why the hospital extracted the sperm in the first place when he died... is this standard-operating-procedure???
That's what baffles me, too. Why was this man's sperm stored for four years after his death?
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I can see looking for a surrogate... but it seems odd to want to find a volunteer to raise your grandchild.

ETA: Well, I can't even really understand looking for a surrogate, since I can't imagine doing what these parents did (unless there is more to the story, very possible I'm sure, such as the son told his parents about wanting this done but hadn't yet put anything about it in his will), but if I were in a position to be looking for a surrogate, then it would be so I could raise the child myself.
I was rather surprised they had 400 or so women come forward offering to be inseminated. If I was a woman needing sperm, I'd have a few concerns about these parents/grandparents. I think the whole scenario crosses too many boundaries and I certainly wouldn't want 'in laws' like that.

umsami, maybe the parents requested the sperm early on, but the hospital declined, but with the parents involving the courts, perhaps the hospital took some 'samples' while the ensuring legal battle played out? That's all I could think of.
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At least it's not creepy or anything.


I just noticed they used the word 'volunteers' in the article, as in the plural. I wonder how many 'volunteers' they plan on inseminating?
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I was rather surprised they had 400 or so women come forward offering to be inseminated. If I was a woman needing sperm, I'd have a few concerns about these parents/grandparents. I think the whole scenario crosses too many boundaries and I certainly wouldn't want 'in laws' like that.
I'm with you here...."obsessed" comes to mind....so does "mini-me"... Oh my...

I wouldn't have thought of something like this... Where do people get these ideas? lol Then again, don't tell me...I don't want to know....
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http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=598126

I posted this yesterday.

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Oops, I never bothered to check the second page. I followed the link to the photo of the dead son and his story from that thread. It's all very eerie.

The worst thing about this is, I can just imagine a lot of parents wanting to do the same thing. I hope I'm wrong.
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Yikes!
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Even if I had repeatedly expressed my wish to become a parent, I would not want someone to use my genetic material to make a child after my death.

1. I would not want my child to grow up without any possibility of contact with one of its biological parents.

2. I would want to have some say in who the other parent of my child was!

Did the judge take these two factors into consideration??

There's a great deal of difference between repeatedly expressing that you want to be a parent and consenting to your child being born to a parent you've never met after your death!

This is so scary! It should absolutely NOT be allowed, unless the man said, "If I die, I want you to use my sperm and find a mother for it if you can," which, as far as I can tell, he did NOT say.

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Eeeewwww. That is just plain yuck.
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I'll do it! I'm on the lookout for some sperm with no babydaddy wrapped around it.
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I'll do it! I'm on the lookout for some sperm with no babydaddy wrapped around it.
Yeah, but this one comes with seriously bizzaro-world MIL issues attached. Good luck with that.
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Yeah, but this one comes with seriously bizzaro-world MIL issues attached. Good luck with that.
ah, but this is why god gave grandparents no legal rights.
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ah, but this is why god gave grandparents no legal rights.
sweet relief!
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Yeah, but this one comes with seriously bizzaro-world MIL issues attached. Good luck with that.
Was just about to say that!
I not sure any babydaddy could be worse than the way these psycho controlling grandparents sound.


If it were a spouse doing this I might be more supportive, but the parent? without even a potential babymommy in sight yet?
too weird!

nothing more to say I guess :
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*sigh*


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(or anywhere else for that matter )

nothing more to say I guess :
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This would be me:

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nothing more to say I guess :
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But seriously, though, why did I have the same thought?

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But seriously, though, why did I have the same thought?
heehee I read a post by you in SP saying you'd like to get pg again, no? Let's fly to England together and split the dose!
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why not just adopt a child or offer to support a child in his name.

it just creeps me out.

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It's a very weird story. I wonder why the hospital extracted the sperm in the first place when he died... is this standard-operating-procedure???
I agree with you, Wombat. WHen I worked as an andrologist, there was one similar case to this. Luckily, I wasn't on call. But a man died in a motorcycle accident and his wife requested before they pulled the plug (within a few hours of the accident) that they extract the sperm. They did it and my friend froze it. Unfortunately, she was unable to conceive with it.

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Get ready. Because that is the future. To even think of this, sixty years ago, would be radical...but here it is. So many legal and ethical issues are raised as technology leap frogs.....it's going to be interesting to watch what comes to be normal practice in the next sixty years.
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How to put this UA-ily...there are some individuals of the older generations who um, might benefit from having their effing heads checked.

Seriously this is the crazy inlaw story to beat all crazy inlaw stories.

I read the poor dude had a girlfriend of 2 years too. That's serious for that age, together since they were teens. I wonder how she feels about this creepalicious sperm stealing fest?
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heehee I read a post by you in SP saying you'd like to get pg again, no? Let's fly to England together and split the dose!

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This is weird and...sick.

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