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http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/l...?storyid=95517

The article says 4,000 injuries from 4 million vaccines given, or 1 in 1,000.

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Cronin says he can't go after Merck with a lawsuit because Gardasil is now part of a federal fund which pays out to those injured from vaccines.

First Coast News has learned, Gardasil was added to the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Fund just months after it hit the market. "The Federal government would not put it on the list without medical scientific justification," says Cronin.

Un.freaking.believable.:
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Dr. Benrubi says the HPV vaccine is one of the safest and he recommended it to his own child.
Don't they all use that spiel? "It's one of the safest vaccines...." Ugh. I wish they would continue to parse out that statement and say, "But I would not get one of the less-safe vaccines such as...<insert vax>." I'd love to see how much crossover occurs in the ones the "experts" deem more safe than others.

This certainly isn't the first article I've seen on the HPV shot causing problems.

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lets see...so ive heard a few times theres a 75- 1.00 put into the fund for people hurt by vaccines...so for this one alone thats 750-1,000 dolars per person. Yeah, thats useful...

and noone sees a problem that they couldnt even do anything for each person hurt by this by whats thrown in there causes its caused so much injury? :

poor kid. ugh.
I hate how all this crap is pushed! :
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Although I'm not anti-vaccine, my kids are unvaxed (I am considering getting some vaxes-the tetanus and meningitis ones), and I will never inject this one into my girls. Ick. So sad for that little girl involved.

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I don't tire to tell people: this vaccine IS NOT ENTERING MY DAUGHTER'S BODY! So terrible!! :
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How disturbing. The adverse effects for this vax seem more severe than most I am used to. Especially since we're not even talking infants with immature immune systems, but teenagers who should be more durable.
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Not surprising...at all. Poor girl, i wonder who talked her into getting it?
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Not surprising...at all. Poor girl, i wonder who talked her into getting it?
I doubt it was a "talked her into" situation. It was more likely that her mom or dad told he she was due for a shot and she trusted them as her parents.

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So gardasil is "one of the safest vaccines" because other vaccines for HPV are even more dangerous? Is that the logic they're using?

So sad for this girl and any others who are hurt by vaccines.

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I doubt it was a "talked her into" situation. It was more likely that her mom or dad told he she was due for a shot and she trusted them as her parents.
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Ahem...ummm...no, I think he meant to say that Guardisil is as safe as all the other vaccines - who are also safe - super safe - move along.
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Thanks for posting this. I will passing the link on to a local senator's office that is collecting info regarding this. I just hope he's able to enlighten the rest.
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Although I'm not anti-vaccine, my kids are unvaxed (I am considering getting some vaxes-the tetanus and meningitis ones), and I will never inject this one into my girls. Ick. So sad for that little girl involved.

Why Tetanus and Meningitis but not Gardasil?

Tetanus is contracted by less than a handful per year in the U.S. (single digits) and primarily by the eldery. A person with good circulation and gets/practices proper wound care is extremely unlikely to contract Tetanus. Tetanus spores cannot thrive in an oxygen rich environment (a bleeding wound).

Bacterial Meningitis is not "caught" ( meningitis is not a disease but an is the inflammation of the protective membranes covering the central nervous system, known collectively as the meninges, which can be caused by many things) but developed.

I realize that vaccination, whether you do or don't is a risk/benefit analysis; I just wonder why you are considering risking these two vaccines specifically?

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Not surprising...at all. Poor girl, i wonder who talked her into getting it?
""The doctor recommended we get the Gardasil shot and I'd been thinking about it because I've seen it on TV all the time," says Bell."

I'm sorry if Merck can spend countless millions on their ad campaign, then they should be libel in this case. I honestly cannot remember any other vaccine doing such a media push in my adult lifetime.

How very sad. I had a great holistic pediatrician in JAX... too bad she wasn't this girl's ped too.

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I'm sorry if Merck can spend countless millions on their ad campaign, then they should be libel in this case.

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I doubt it was a "talked her into" situation. It was more likely that her mom or dad told he she was due for a shot and she trusted them as her parents.


Likely, but I see some legal problems with this. The girl was not given proper education about the risks and therefore was unable to exercise informed consent. In my mind, I feel that the parents could be held accountable for this, as well as the doctor who gave it to her. On the other hand the parents are victims too because THEY weren't properly educated either. Either way its a sad story and I hope this girl is able to recover.
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Tetanus is contracted by less than a handful per year in the U.S. (single digits) and primarily by the eldery. A person with good circulation and gets/practices proper wound care is extremely unlikely to contract Tetanus. Tetanus spores cannot thrive in an oxygen rich environment (a bleeding wound).

Bacterial Meningitis is not "caught" ( meningitis is not a disease but an is the inflammation of the protective membranes covering the central nervous system, known collectively as the meninges, which can be caused by many things) but developed.
Some forms of Bacterial Meningitis are spread through respiratory and throat secretions.

Tetanus cases average 40-60 per year, mostly elderly patients, however a few children or infants born to mothers who have an objection to vaccination contract tetanus every year. It is more fatal in newborns and the elderly. Yes it is anaerobic, that's why Tetanus grows in puncture wounds and cord infections in unvaccinated mothers (most commonly in undeveloped countries).
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