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I think if I could feel movement I'd relax a bit, I am waiting to find out. My other friend didn't feel movement until 19-20 weeks which I read is pretty normal - I am surprised everyone here is feeling movement so early its making me nervous! Not to mention my still-flat belly making me nervous too. The u/s tech said that it wasn't obvious that I had a retroverted uterus, so I know its in the middle position now, so that's not why anymore. And I'm pretty lean, so I'm surprised that I've got nothing to show or feel yet!
You are not alone. I haven't felt movement yet either and it does make me nervous. I think I'll be able to relax more after I feel it. I bet we will both be feeling something sooner rather than later.
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Wow, our thread fell to the second page, that never happens!

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I'm nervous b/c I have some kind of yeast and/or bacterial infection going on, which first of all is nasty and second makes me scared, even though logically I know that a vaginal infection isn't going to attack the baby or anything. I'm guessing bacterial b/c I had it awhile ago, but took a course of antibiotics that the dr prescribed when the group B strep showed up in my urine test, and it cleared up. Now it's back, so I'm going the garlic-and-yogurt route. I smell good, let me tell you.

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Sorry mama . I think I might have one too. I know I have a UTI but I think there might be something else going on too...maybe bacterial. I hope the garlic and yogurt helps!!
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I am having a really difficult time with all the bleeding recently. I had another thread up about lots of blood- I had a subchorionic hemorrhage on Thursday. We visualized the babe on u/s and all was fine. I spotted throughout the weekend but then had another large bleed last night. I felt it gushing out and soaked a couple pads in a few minutes. It tapered off and I spotted/bleed all night after that. I am a nervous/anxious wreck. I don't know how I can possibly bleed so much and still have the little bean safe and sound. I'm worried I'm going to lose him/her. I'm worried that if she/he stays inside, I'm going to bleed the entire pregnancy and risk out of a birth center or home birth. It's just so difficult to see so MUCH blood and not completely freak out.
I'm so sorry about the bleeding. My thoughts are with you and your baby . I hope that the bleeding stops and does not start again. I can relate to some of your fears
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Part of why I'm feeling movement is that I'm infertile (or was), and thus ridiculously in tune with my body. My guess is a lot of you are feeling stuff you're dismissing as gas. I'm not getting any gigantic kicks or anything like that, but there's something definitely going on in there.

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I totally know what you mean!! I have had infertility as well and I'm super in tune with my body for the most part. People think I'm strange because I feel myself oulate (before I got pregnant, lol). I've felt a few things that kinda feel like a possible flutter but it's never been in the right spot and I know exactly where my uterus is.

We found out our last baby had passed when I was 18.5 weeks but they estimated baby died around 14.5-15 weeks. I never felt movement with that pregnancy. So I'm trying not get too nervous about not feeling movement until after 15 weeks. I'm 13 weeks and 4 days so hopefully soon!!
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I totally know what you mean!! I have had infertility as well and I'm super in tune with my body for the most part. People think I'm strange because I feel myself oulate (before I got pregnant, lol). I've felt a few things that kinda feel like a possible flutter but it's never been in the right spot and I know exactly where my uterus is.

We found out our last baby had passed when I was 18.5 weeks but they estimated baby died around 14.5-15 weeks. I never felt movement with that pregnancy. So I'm trying not get too nervous about not feeling movement until after 15 weeks. I'm 13 weeks and 4 days so hopefully soon!!
I'm pretty in tune w/ my body I think, and I also can feel ovulation (very distinctive pain for me) which made it pretty easy to time intercourse but its true that once you get towards my intestines, there's usually a LOT going on there (I have IBS, celiac disease, etc) so its very difficult for me to not dismiss things as gas. At night usually I can put my hand on my belly and feel air forming, moving, cramps left and right, all sorts of things. My intestines are hotbeds of action. So yeah, I think I'll need a pretty distinctive kick to get my attention and not think its my intestine as usual being unhappy w/ what I ate!

But yeah, I also am not exactly sure where my uterus is, I'm guessing its pretty low still so its hard to have a hand on that and NOT on some intestine I guess. Maybe next ob appt I'll ask where it ends and that might help.

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I'm lucky in that I don't have a ton going on in my intestines, so I can tell pretty easily what's gas and what's not. That said, I found my uterus at first by lying on my side and poking pretty hard at the edges of my pelvis. I could feel a hard roundish edge and just went up from there. The normal poking the abdomen to find the uterus thing has my uterus not very distinct from my intestines, but I can now tell the difference. Definitely took some practice though.

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Part of why I'm feeling movement is that I'm infertile (or was), and thus ridiculously in tune with my body. My guess is a lot of you are feeling stuff you're dismissing as gas. I'm not getting any gigantic kicks or anything like that, but there's something definitely going on in there.
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I totally know what you mean!! I have had infertility as well and I'm super in tune with my body for the most part. People think I'm strange because I feel myself oulate (before I got pregnant, lol). I've felt a few things that kinda feel like a possible flutter but it's never been in the right spot and I know exactly where my uterus is.
Funny, I'm kind of in the same boat, and yet it's different. I do know exactly when I ovulate-- the RE docs made me do the OPKs to pinpoint b/c of the progesterone supplements but the tests just told me what I already knew. My DH is continually amazed at my level of connection with my inner workings, but it seemed normal to me; probably because I spend so much time here on MDC where every mama is checking their cervical fluid. It's not the kind of thing I discuss much with my real-life friends, so it's hard to tell.

On the other hand, these miscarriages and etc have made me completely doubt my body, (especially its ability to support a pregnancy), and increased my propensity for assuming the worst. Given that, I do (or did) dismiss a lot of potential movement, and even though everything is going well, I've been convinced several times that I'd already lost the little passenger.

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Funny, I'm kind of in the same boat, and yet it's different. I do know exactly when I ovulate-- the RE docs made me do the OPKs to pinpoint b/c of the progesterone supplements but the tests just told me what I already knew. My DH is continually amazed at my level of connection with my inner workings, but it seemed normal to me; probably because I spend so much time here on MDC where every mama is checking their cervical fluid. It's not the kind of thing I discuss much with my real-life friends, so it's hard to tell.

On the other hand, these miscarriages and etc have made me completely doubt my body, (especially its ability to support a pregnancy), and increased my propensity for assuming the worst. Given that, I do (or did) dismiss a lot of potential movement, and even though everything is going well, I've been convinced several times that I'd already lost the little passenger.
Me too Weasley...I can really relate. I am very conscious of my inner workings and very in-tune with my body. I use visualization to connect with my body when I am not sure what a symptom is representing, and I can usually figure it out. Having said that, I felt like my last pregnancy was progressing normally when it was not. My ability to trust myself around this pregnancy is diminished. I realize that my fears or hope can override my intuition.
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Volitage - I hope your u/s for your NT scan goes well today. Update us when you can.
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I know exactly what you guys are saying ... I do know every twinge my body makes, and when I ovulate even though I have never even tried to get pregnant (but the time we were ready to start trying, the autoimmune craziness began). I think when you have something wrong with you (an illness, infertility, IBS, etc), you can really tune in and feel what is going on.

Guess what? M felt movement yesterday!! : : : This is her 4th pregnancy, so she knows what is movement and what is gad. So that was super exciting!! We go see the new OB on Monday, so hopefully we will be finding out the gender soon.

My autoimmune issues have come out swinging in the last week, I am head to toe covered in hives and as I say "itchy and b*tchy". I didn't do anything to aggravate the situation, so I am not sure what is going on and my massive levels of anti-histamines aren't holding me. Waiting for my period and will then see if I need to go back to the specialist for stronger drugs, which I hope not. Totally TMI, but I thought I would share anyways
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I know exactly what you guys are saying ... I do know every twinge my body makes, and when I ovulate even though I have never even tried to get pregnant (but the time we were ready to start trying, the autoimmune craziness began). I think when you have something wrong with you (an illness, infertility, IBS, etc), you can really tune in and feel what is going on.

Guess what? M felt movement yesterday!! : : : This is her 4th pregnancy, so she knows what is movement and what is gad. So that was super exciting!! We go see the new OB on Monday, so hopefully we will be finding out the gender soon.

My autoimmune issues have come out swinging in the last week, I am head to toe covered in hives and as I say "itchy and b*tchy". I didn't do anything to aggravate the situation, so I am not sure what is going on and my massive levels of anti-histamines aren't holding me. Waiting for my period and will then see if I need to go back to the specialist for stronger drugs, which I hope not. Totally TMI, but I thought I would share anyways
Yay for movement! :

Sorry that you have some horrible symptoms right now. I hope that you feel better soon.
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I can also realate to having diminished faith in my ability to read my body. I carried around my deceased baby in my belly for about 4 weeks without even knowing it. I still felt pregnant but in my defense, my body did think it was still pregnant. However, looking back it is easy to see the red flags that I missed or even ones that I purposely burried. Right around the time the baby died, I had this horrible sinking feeling that something was wrong. I've never felt like that in my entire life. It was almost a burning sensation in the pit of my stomach. But after wanting that pregnancy for so long, I think I made myself dismiss those feelings out of denial. Then I also had a dream that really laid it all out for me. I didn't understand it at the time but later it made so much sense.

I had another dream like that the night before last. Very similar to the dream I had last time. I'm scared because I think I might have Fifth Disease now. I can't believe everything I've been through to create and keep this baby alive and now I might have something else totally random to take it all away.
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I know exactly what you guys are saying ... I do know every twinge my body makes, and when I ovulate even though I have never even tried to get pregnant (but the time we were ready to start trying, the autoimmune craziness began). I think when you have something wrong with you (an illness, infertility, IBS, etc), you can really tune in and feel what is going on.

Guess what? M felt movement yesterday!! : : : This is her 4th pregnancy, so she knows what is movement and what is gad. So that was super exciting!! We go see the new OB on Monday, so hopefully we will be finding out the gender soon.

My autoimmune issues have come out swinging in the last week, I am head to toe covered in hives and as I say "itchy and b*tchy". I didn't do anything to aggravate the situation, so I am not sure what is going on and my massive levels of anti-histamines aren't holding me. Waiting for my period and will then see if I need to go back to the specialist for stronger drugs, which I hope not. Totally TMI, but I thought I would share anyways
So exciting that she is feeling movement!!! At what point would you be able to feel it from the outside?

So so sorry about the hives. I hope they clear up quickly.
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Volitage - I hope your u/s for your NT scan goes well today. Update us when you can.
That. Are you out there, Voltige? Is everything OK?

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That. Are you out there, Voltige? Is everything OK?
Yes, I'm here. Sorry I didn't update. The u/s and NT scan was perfect! Baby bean was moving around and the NT thickness was 1.1 (whatever units). I didn't hear back about the corresponding blood work, but my RE said he'd call with anything suspicious. My DH was there with me and it was wonderful to see his reaction to the u/s.

That said, I was pretty down all weekend. I've been feeling just awful with the nausea and diarrhea. I've had absolutely no energy and that with all the bleeding (I'm still spotting and bleeding daily) is just depressing. Thankfully I'm feeling a tad bit better today though, so I hope the trend continues.

I think I'll just be very relieved after my gall bladder surgery on the 29th. I feel like it's this huge mental (and physical) hurdle to get past before I can really relax, ya know?

Anyway, more than you asked for but there it is!
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great news Voltige! Is the bleeding subsiding at all? and is the nausea and diarrhea from the gall bladder, or the pregnancy?


I actually was still feeling pretty nauseous (and even threw up for only the second time this pregnancy on Friday) until yesterday, as I hit 15wks. So a little later than I was hoping!


I finally got up the nerve (or actually, my husband helped me get up the nerve) to use the doppler today. I've had it for two weeks! It took a little while to find the hb and I was panicking but we did find it, so yay! Its still alive! I now feel more comfortable telling our parents this coming weekend. I am still not showing a BIT (I figured at this stage *I* could tell, even if I wasn't showing to others, but not yet) so I was over-worrying I guess.

I am getting sick today - sore throat, coughing up stuff, does anyone know offhand what kind of remedies are good while pregnant? I usually love Gypsy Cold Care tea but I think its a no-no during pregnancy (it has yarrow in it) Ill see the doc tomorrow if I have to but I'd love to nip this in the bud quick if I can. I tend to get bronchitis SUPER easily and after being on antibiotics last week for the stupid elbow I'd rather not have to take them again! Maybe a lot of garlic would be good?

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great news Voltige! Is the bleeding subsiding at all? and is the nausea and diarrhea from the gall bladder, or the pregnancy?


I actually was still feeling pretty nauseous (and even threw up for only the second time this pregnancy on Friday) until yesterday, as I hit 15wks. So a little later than I was hoping!


I finally got up the nerve (or actually, my husband helped me get up the nerve) to use the doppler today. I've had it for two weeks! It took a little while to find the hb and I was panicking but we did find it, so yay! Its still alive! I now feel more comfortable telling our parents this coming weekend. I am still not showing a BIT (I figured at this stage *I* could tell, even if I wasn't showing to others, but not yet) so I was over-worrying I guess.

I am getting sick today - sore throat, coughing up stuff, does anyone know offhand what kind of remedies are good while pregnant? I usually love Gypsy Cold Care tea but I think its a no-no during pregnancy (it has yarrow in it) Ill see the doc tomorrow if I have to but I'd love to nip this in the bud quick if I can. I tend to get bronchitis SUPER easily and after being on antibiotics last week for the stupid elbow I'd rather not have to take them again! Maybe a lot of garlic would be good?
I'm not sure if my nausea and diarrhea is pregnancy or gall bladder related. As my surgery happens in week 14, I may never find out. I just hope it's GONE when I wake up from the anesthesia

The bleeding is not stopping. I typically have enough to stain a pad daily, there is something every time I wipe, and I occasionally get a small gush of something as well. I have a uterus full of blood, based on the u/s last week so I was told to expect this for quite a while.

Sorry you are getting sick. Have you tried Zicam? I believe it's safe during pregnancy and it always helps me when I'm starting a cold- makes it less brutal and not as long lasting. You can also try a neti pot to just flush everything out of your sinuses. I hope you feel better soon, and don't end up on abx again.

Oh, and the doppler! My DH wants to buy one for peace of mind since I'm having so much bleeding. I'm worried I won't be able to locate the heartbeat and that will be even more stressful. Did you find it easy to use? I'm really on the fence about getting one.
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I'm not sure if my nausea and diarrhea is pregnancy or gall bladder related. As my surgery happens in week 14, I may never find out. I just hope it's GONE when I wake up from the anesthesia

The bleeding is not stopping. I typically have enough to stain a pad daily, there is something every time I wipe, and I occasionally get a small gush of something as well. I have a uterus full of blood, based on the u/s last week so I was told to expect this for quite a while.

Sorry you are getting sick. Have you tried Zicam? I believe it's safe during pregnancy and it always helps me when I'm starting a cold- makes it less brutal and not as long lasting. You can also try a neti pot to just flush everything out of your sinuses. I hope you feel better soon, and don't end up on abx again.

Oh, and the doppler! My DH wants to buy one for peace of mind since I'm having so much bleeding. I'm worried I won't be able to locate the heartbeat and that will be even more stressful. Did you find it easy to use? I'm really on the fence about getting one.

I will look into the Zicam. Sadly a neti pot might not help, since my head isn't congested at all, just my throat which is odd. Usually there's at least a progression of one to the other. But after i threw up on Friday I had a sore throat (which I figured was from puking) that morphed into lung congestion. I am drinking chamomile tea which is helping a little bit.

that sucks about the bleeding! Its true a doppler might give you some peace of mind. I had no idea how worried I was until after finding the hb today, it was a huge load of my mind. Given that I had fell at hockey, and had taken antibiotics, there were just enough variables to make me worry I guess. It was pretty easy to use, you need a LOT more gel stuff than I had thought, it took only about 5min to find, still I was freaking out for those 5min!

I was pretty worried I wouldn't find it either - even though the ob/gyn found it three weeks ago pretty easily, I was still pretty worried. Which is why I had it in its box for two weeks before daring to use, so I'm probably not the best example I got the second cheapest one I think from babybeat - only 25 a month or so.

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Yay Voltige for a good ultrasound! Yay Seafox for finding the heartbeat! Sorry that you both have a lot of other stuff going on.

me: I am having an awful day. The cnm office that is backing up my birth wants me to go in for more bloodwork. : I do not even want to talk about it because the way they went about persuading me to consent was through fear mongering and anxiety provoking. My cpm does not think it is necessary, but now I have doubts and fears, so I will probably just go through with it.
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Yay Voltige for a good ultrasound! Yay Seafox for finding the heartbeat! Sorry that you both have a lot of other stuff going on.

me: I am having an awful day. The cnm office that is backing up my birth wants me to go in for more bloodwork. : I do not even want to talk about it because the way they went about persuading me to consent was through fear mongering and anxiety provoking. My cpm does not think it is necessary, but now I have doubts and fears, so I will probably just go through with it.
When you are ready to talk about it let us know. I'm trying to think of everything they test for and what they would want to look at again unless your iron was low or something and I wouldn't think that would be an emergency to be so mean to you. Not cool.

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Sorry you are having a rough time Bliss - sending positive vibes on over to you.

We met with our OB yesterday and heard the HB - woo hoo!!! He also said that he will be doing the c-section at 38 weeks unless M's BP is too high and then it will have to be earlier which we really hope not. I think he will take good care of M and seems to understand the whole surrogacy thing really well.

If he is taking out the baby at 38 weeks, that is around May 19 - do I have to join the May DDC now?
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Critty, why's he doing a c-section at 38 weeks?

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Critty, why's he doing a c-section at 38 weeks?
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Oh no! I'm surprised she's a surrogate if that's true, but hopefully this pregnancy goes better. I'm scared of stuff like pre-eclampsia.

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Oh no! I'm surprised she's a surrogate if that's true, but hopefully this pregnancy goes better. I'm scared of stuff like pre-eclampsia.
I know! We found out after the transfer of the embryos. She is taking supplements and taking care of herself and we are all thinking positive thoughts. We want surro mama and baby to be healthy, healthy, healthy!
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Only a small number of my coworkers knew about my mc. Now that I've announced my new pg I can see them doing the math. I got pg less then 30 days after the mc. I had one just ask me again when I was due. Do I need to address this?
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Only a small number of my coworkers knew about my mc. Now that I've announced my new pg I can see them doing the math. I got pg less then 30 days after the mc. I had one just ask me again when I was due. Do I need to address this?
I don't see why you should, unless you're close enough to discuss private matters like that. You're pregnant, you've given them a due date, what more do they need to know? If anyone is prying enough to ask you outright, then I guess you could tell them, "Yes I was pregnant before and miscarried, and got pregnant again, thanks for bringing it up."

I'm speaking from experience here b/c I wasn't nearly circumspect enough myself, and it's really gotten annoying having everybody and their dog knowing everything about my medical history...

Mara, mama to two boys born 05/2009 and 04/2011, after four miscarriages. 

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Only a small number of my coworkers knew about my mc. Now that I've announced my new pg I can see them doing the math. I got pg less then 30 days after the mc. I had one just ask me again when I was due. Do I need to address this?
I do not think you need to address it unless you are a. comfortable doing so and b. feel you want to do it. It is none of their business or concern when you conceived.
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Something stupid that I can't complain about anywhere else...

I feel so good that I hardly feel "pregnant" anymore. Nausea, fatigue, all gone. I know "they say" that second trimester feels better, but (naturally) it's freaking me out mightily. EVEN THOUGH I can feel the critter tumbling about in there, AND use the doppler from time to time... I honestly don't know what it would take to make me feel secure in this pregnancy, short of a real live baby in my arms.

Mara, mama to two boys born 05/2009 and 04/2011, after four miscarriages. 

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