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#1 of 7 Old 02-28-2009, 03:04 PM - Thread Starter
 
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My 10 year old got a packet at his mothers house about this. DH went and picked it up and it's gold embossed and very fancy.

His mother is over the moon. She's calling all of their family and friends and telling him how special it is. I looked at the information and it seemed...off.

First of all, he's a good kid and a good student, but he's not exactly gifted or academically special that I can see right now. The work that he's taught in his fourth grade class is a little slow moving IMO, so he's doing it well and he's happy.

Second, this program is 2 grand for 4 days, not including airfare.

Third, they go a little far to convey what a miraculous event it is. They included a marketing letter especially for him, and a link for a press release that he can send to his local newspaper.

Fourth, it didn't come from the school, or through the school. The school didn't even mention anything like this to us, or even that he was in the running for some kind of award, even though his teachers name is mentioned many times in the packet. There's nothing else to the program that I see. Just camp.

It seems a little like those Who's Who books to me and DH is skeptical, too. But, again, his mother is thrilled and so is my kid, so I'm kind of hoping that we're wrong.

Has anyone ever heard of the NYSP or participated?

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DD got the same thing in the mail this year (also 10) and we thought it was actually just mass mailed.

Here is the 4th link I found when I searched:
http://search.live.com/results.aspx?...c=IE-SearchBox

Apparently there is a lot more info out there if you add "scam" into the search.

I read some reviews where the people were happy, but mostly acknowledged that it wasn't an "award" and was more of an expensive, more academic summer camp. If you have plenty of money it's not a waste, but not exactly what they want you to believe either.

 

 

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They mass mail to schools and try to get teachers to send in names of kids. I've always just tossed the packet that comes. The gold-embossed logo screams Junk Mail to me. There is no consistent criteria; any teacher who gets this in her box could glance at it, think "so-and-so has been doing great this year!", send in info, and forget all about it. No one else in the school would have any idea, so it's not like the school has anything to do with it.
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no advice. just commiseration.

wonder if the teacher gets a kickback for sending a name.

i feel so sorry for her when she realises she's been scammed.

wonder if dss is excited coz his mom is excited and maybe travelling and going someplace rather than about the award itself.

hope you and your dh are able to send her some scam links.

anytime there is are $$$s attached i always get suspicious.

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They mass mail to schools and try to get teachers to send in names of kids.

Wow. Aren't teacher's bound contractually NOT to release without consent the names/addresses of the children in their schools? I would not be pleased (and the teacher and the school would know well about that fact) if our family's information was given out by a teacher to anyone without my consent. That's highly unethical IMO. And then to have to deal with a disappointed kiddo and parent(s) that got their hopes up as though this was something legit. Despicable!
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For anyone who is interested, you may want to check out the FERPA law. Any school that receives DOE funds is bound by it, and is required to inform you about it annually and give you the chance to NOT give your consent regarding information release.

http://www.ed.gov/policy/gen/guid/fpco/ferpa/index.html
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My 11 year old son just returned from a week (Sunday - Friday) at National Young Scholars Camp at William Peace University, Raleigh, NC. We could not have been more satisfied with the camp, the staff, and the environment. He had the time of his life. He got to do things that he would have never had the opportunity to do otherwise. He worked with DNA samples, had to calculate the angle and distance of blood (fake) splatters. He studied about four different major ailments of the body like pancrease, liver, etc. Designed a miniature jet car that had to work, leadership training, etc. The list goes on and on. He was so happy each night that he called us and shared everything they did. They had talant shows, magicians, a violinist, and others came in for nightly entertainment. The food was good and the security was excellent. They all shared in a graduation ceremony the things they learned and we saw in the classroom the hard work the kids had put in and learned so many things. He went to camp with his cell phone and kindle so that he could keep in touch with us at all times and the camp had no problem with it. So homesickness was never an issue. Yes the camp is expensive and probably higher than a lot of families can afford. My son wrote a letter explaining his nomination and sent it out to local businesses and friends asking for a sponsorship to go to this program. Within 3 weeks he had raised all the funds and one business wrote him an additional check for spending money. All total he raised almost $2200. He has learned so much this summer from raising his funds to attending a camp four hours away from home. He made so many friends while there. They all swapped their cell numbers and plan to remain friends for a very long time. We found no scam associated with this program at all. Did the people in charge make a lot of money from it? Sure they did. But to my son and our family it was worth every penny. Great opportunity.

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