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I learned something common in the kindergarten class my dd will start next year, and it really grosses me out. To many (most?) it sounds like a small thing, so I don't want to be an annoying, nitpicky mom.. but.. its nasty to me! Before snack (or lunch, for full day, but dd will be in half day) since it takes too long for everyone to wash their hands in the one sink, they have everyone wipe their hands with baby wipes. Chemically laden, scented baby wipes.. all over her hands.. which will immediately be holding her snack, which will go in her mouth. May as well suck on a wipe. My mind keeps going back to the time that I ate a pretzel out of the bag that was in the church nursery. It tasted coated in chemicals. The teacher always sanitized her hands before reaching into the bag. I'm not a germophobe *at all*. As long as her hands aren't coated in paint, blatant dirt, etc, I really don't care whether she washes her hands before eating or not. But I definitely don't want her transferring baby wipe chemicals to her hands, then to her snack, then to her mouth. Every student is supposed to bring in 10 packs of wipes at the beginning of the year for the class to use. You can bet that most students are going to be bringing the cheapest possible, aka nastiest. Not 7th generation or other more natural variety. Is there a way I can bring that up with the teacher without sounding like a high maintenance PITA? 


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Tell her your child has sensitive skin and does best with particular products. Then bring in your own for her. 


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I'd check with the teacher and let her know that your DD can manage washing herself and you'd rather avoid the baby wipes ("sensitive skin" is a good excuse, nice!). It's probably not possible for the teacher to supervise an entire kindergarten class at the sink. However, if your DD is independent, she can probably wash her hands herself at the sink and just let the teacher know she doesn't need a baby wipe. Unless the students are forbidden to use the sink, she shouldn't have any problem.

 

Most kindie-age children should be able to wash their hands but there are lots of kindergarten children who can't manage simple activities of daily living like washing and dressing themselves.

 

I understand the teacher's dilemma. I recall helping out on an outdoor education field trip once. They spent the morning hiking through a swampy marsh and dredging up pond life. I took the girls to the bathroom to clean up before lunch. For some reason, only one sink was available. The first smartypants in line loudly proclaimed that it was necessary to sing the entire "Happy Birthday" song while handwashing to ensure clean hands (a fairly well-known campaign promoted by public health advocates). Of course, every kid had to follow suit. Lunch was almost over by the time we got out of there! 

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Yuck.

 

AND the trash created by that endeavor.  I suppose no worse than the mountain of paper towels used to dry their hands by normal washing, but...

 

Maybe you could send a wet washcloth in a ziplock baggie for her each day.  She can take it out and use it, then put it back in and bring it home for washing?

 

Maybe you could suggest that all the children bring in 3 washcloths at the beginning of the year, and you'd be happy to pick them up every other day for washing? (Just to keep the burden off the teacher?)  How long would it take for the teacher to throw all the washcloths in a bucket of lightly soaped water and pass those out instead? 

 

I dunno.  Blech.

 

I hope you can at least get your dd out of it.


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I like the "bring wash cloths" instead of wipes idea! I do plan to take advantage of as much volunteering in the class as I can so my helpfulness will counteract any annoying nitpicking I do :) Maybe if I provide a clean, new trash can with a brand new PUL liner for the classroom, that will help. Then maybe they can have every student bring *1* pack of baby wash cloths (those cost, what, $5 or less at target?) instead of 10 packages of wipes. It'll save everyone money! If she doesn't go for it I'll just send dd with one every day.. 


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Wow. Nevermind the chemical and enviro concerns, 10 packs of wipes is expensive. I can't imagine you are the only parent concerned about this. Is this the first year they will be doing this?  How does wiping your hands on a disposable wipe kill germs (I am not a germaphobe either and don't have my boys wash their hands before eating unless they are dirty *with dirt*)? I can't see how this is ok with the health department. Can they rotate snack times? or figure something else out so the children are actually washing their hands? I really think you should talk to the teacher about this.


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This seems like its a well established routine! They had a parents information night and they went over a few of the supplies parents will be asked to bring, and thats how they explained why we'd need to bring the wipes! The preschool my dd went to has the kids wash their hands before snack and lunch. There's 13 4-5yos (and in the other class, 3-4yos) to one sink, and they manage. Course, there's 20+ 5-6yos to one sink, which is different, but I wonder if they couldn't just send half into the bathroom (literally steps outside the classroom door) to wash there. That shouldn't take long. I'm surprised how many people are totally cool with a non-edible substance coating their hands, being unable to rinse their hands with water to remove it, then eating a finger-food immediately after..? 


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You will be able to find some medical authority (AMA, AAP; I've read it but don't have the reference handy) who states that hand sanitizer/wipes are not a substitute for washing hands and that there is a "healthy" limit as to their use.
 

I'm not sure of the best way to say it but "complaints" about problems like this are better made with a solution ready smile.gif. I'd just ask about the other close by restroom. I think it's unlikely the school has overlooked it as a solution to the problem. The reason they don't use it like that may be due to a law or regulation about direct supervision of the Kindergarteners.


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Bah. 25 kids washing their hands takes about five hours. I understand that the school thinks they are at least doing something. I really like the wet washcloth idea and probably will use that next year. I dislike the idea of wipes less than daily antibacterial junk. But seriously, what research supports the idea that a baby wipe somehow cleans hands?

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I mean this in the most polite way possible but I don't think it's ok to insist your child is above using the wipes with all the other kids unless there is a legitimate medical concern (not just claiming she has sensitive skin). I also think it's over the top to make the teacher deal with two sets of wipes. 

 

I do like the washcloth idea but as a parent I wouldn't really be comfortable with my child wiping his hands before eating with something that was washed in a regular home washing machine that just washed someone's dirty underwear unless lots of bleach was used which kind of defeats the purpose.

 

If you have an email list of other parents maybe ask that they each send in maybe $10 (what 10 cheap packs of wipes would cost) and you'll use it to purchase more natural wipes in bulk. Assuming perhaps 22 kids that's $220. You could buy plenty of natural wipes. I'm assuming each parent would bring the cheapest, smallest pack of 60-80 wipes. For that number of kids you would need approximately 4000 wipes. Buying 4000 seventh generation free and clear wipes off amazon would come to just $120. That's $5.45 each. Bring it up to $10 each and there will be plenty of extras to wipes down desks or whatever. If you can't get ahold of other parents see about returning the wipes that are brought in to walmart or another store and you can use that money for things you would buy anyway then buy the wipes online at a discount.

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I'm surprised how many people are totally cool with a non-edible substance coating their hands, being unable to rinse their hands with water to remove it, then eating a finger-food immediately after..? 

 

 

 

don't these children go to the bathroom prior to snack? that's what happens at most places I know - preschool and Kindy- most places have more than one sink- ask why they are doing this in the classroom and not first using the public restrooms---and what is that procedure- at that age children should be in there with a teacher or aid (as in all the class go at the same time) and should be having them really wash their hands there

 

I would object and put it in writing - nothing will change until others see a reason! State it as it is- medical you don't wont those chemicals on your child and if she is subjected to them you will hold them liable in the even of a reaction- this should not be news to a school- they have to deal with other children and other allergies all the time. State the need for proper washing and if you don't know about the bathroom breaks ask how that is done too.

 

if they will not use the restroom prior- send a cloth and say you will not send in wipe supplies but will send in other items


 

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I think a kid covering their hands with chemicals IS a legitimate medical concern! Just not widely publicized or recognized yet. The fact is that we are *all* allergic to those chemicals b/c some of them are carcinogens. When my daughter was in school, they did wash hands in the bathroom, but the soap was so cheap and stinky she'd come home smelling like it. So I sent her with a natural antibacterial spray and told her to use that and water only. For me it wasn't just a matter of scented products containing carcinogens but also the fact that I do react to them with headaches etc.

 

That being said, I think your solution is the best yet regarding natural wipes! If the concerned mother offers to handle it all I'm sure it would go over well. Green cleaning is quite the fashionable trend now-a-days ;)

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I mean this in the most polite way possible but I don't think it's ok to insist your child is above using the wipes with all the other kids unless there is a legitimate medical concern (not just claiming she has sensitive skin). I also think it's over the top to make the teacher deal with two sets of wipes. 

 

I have taught in a kindergarten classroom and I can't see how this would be any extra work for the teacher. The parents sends the child with the wipe in a baggie, the child puts it away in a designated spot, gets her own wipe at snack time and then returns it to the spot in the baggie until the end of the class. This is not an unreasonable responsibility for a kindergartner and does not need to involve the teacher on a day to day basis. 


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I have taught in a kindergarten classroom and I can't see how this would be any extra work for the teacher. The parents sends the child with the wipe in a baggie, the child puts it away in a designated spot, gets her own wipe at snack time and then returns it to the spot in the baggie until the end of the class. This is not an unreasonable responsibility for a kindergartner and does not need to involve the teacher on a day to day basis. 

 

I get what you're saying but in my opinion teachers have enough to deal with besides reminding a child to go get their special wipe. What happens when they forget? What about when another child decides to play with it and gets it dirty before the op's child can use it? Does the teacher or someone else have to escort the child to the bathroom for proper hand washing? Do they make the child use the mainstream wipes then have to deal with an upset parent? How about sending in a different brand of wipes? What about the other kids who whine about not getting to use the special wipes? or pester the child with the special wipes to share? or take them without asking, leaving the op to buy more? or exclude the child with the special wipes from their play when the teacher wouldn't allow sharing, necessitating intervention from the teacher? How about making the teacher monitor the supply of the special wipes and send home a note when they're low?

 

Maybe in a private school where teachers are well paid and you're paying an arm and a leg to send your child there and the teacher is not overworked and there are fairly small classes with aides in the rooms at all times I could maybe see it being reasonable to ask a teacher to do all this but in a run of the mill public school I honestly don't think it's fair to expect a teacher to deal with one more thing when it doesn't involve a true allergy and the alternative (regular baby wipes) is generally thought of as perfectly safe by the vast majority of people. It's just me but I don't think it's honest to fabricate an allergy over something like this. 

 

What happens in a year or two when the parent of a child with a real allergy or skin condition meet a brick wall when trying to question the policy because the teacher and/or school is tired of parents who cause a stink over baby wipes? Things like this happen more than you think. My niece has a dairy allergy and even with a doctor's note and lab tests the school will not provide her with the free school lunch she qualifies for because they have decided they no longer have time to 'entertain' non life threatening allergies or intolerances parents claim their children have (all lunches are peanut free and she is not allowed to bring peanuts, the only affordable and shelf stable protein she can have that she likes the taste of). She's losing weight because of it but the school doesn't care. They're burnt out from dealing with parents who feel their child is sensitive to things, those parents ruined it for the kids with real allergies.

 

I'm not saying the op should not do anything but what she does should be done for the whole class to avoid headaches for the teacher.

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I definitely don't feel comfortable saying anything like "sensitive skin" because you're right, "inventing" allergies as a cop-out excuse makes things difficult on the families who are genuinely struggling with an allergy. But I do think sending her with a wet wash cloth in a baggie every day should be a cinch, and should not create extra work for anyone. Kids bring their own snack from home every day. She can retrieve her wash own wash cloth from her back pack at the same time as she gets her snack. I could even be super cute and crafty and make reusable snack bags with 2 compartments. One for the snack, and one to store a wet wipe :) Then she only has to grab one thing and has an easy place to put it when she's done. 


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My niece has a dairy allergy and even with a doctor's note and lab tests the school will not provide her with the free school lunch she qualifies for because they have decided they no longer have time to 'entertain' non life threatening allergies or intolerances parents claim their children have (all lunches are peanut free and she is not allowed to bring peanuts, the only affordable and shelf stable protein she can have that she likes the taste of). She's losing weight because of it but the school doesn't care. They're burnt out from dealing with parents who feel their child is sensitive to things, those parents ruined it for the kids with real allergies.

 

I'm not saying the op should not do anything but what she does should be done for the whole class to avoid headaches for the teacher.

 

I don't know about your area but ours NEVER entertained non-life threatening allergies and not because of other kids with whatever claims.... because it's too expensive for the schools. My kids are vegetarian and there are school lunch options maybe twice a month. Even if we qualified for free lunch, we would not have been catered too.  Your niece isn't being denied because of other kids... she's being denied because there are large quantities of children these days with peanut allergies and many with life threatening cases. What she's asking for is just TOO specific an issue that affects a very small minority. In school, the majority is always considered over the minority.

 

Schools really don't care about exceptions as long as it doesn't make their life harder. If you don't want your child to participate... fine, but provide your own option for them. They get upset when they have to pour out money to feed around 15 different special requests. My kids are sensitive to chemicals. It's not life threatening but it gives them rashes. I always just provided their own stuff and it was never a big deal at all. Lots of young kids do have issues with chemical laden hand sanitation. 


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I don't know about your area but ours NEVER entertained non-life threatening allergies and not because of other kids with whatever claims.... because it's too expensive for the schools. My kids are vegetarian and there are school lunch options maybe twice a month. Even if we qualified for free lunch, we would not have been catered too.  Your niece isn't being denied because of other kids... she's being denied because there are large quantities of children these days with peanut allergies and many with life threatening cases. What she's asking for is just TOO specific an issue that affects a very small minority. In school, the majority is always considered over the minority.

 

Schools really don't care about exceptions as long as it doesn't make their life harder. If you don't want your child to participate... fine, but provide your own option for them. They get upset when they have to pour out money to feed around 15 different special requests. My kids are sensitive to chemicals. It's not life threatening but it gives them rashes. I always just provided their own stuff and it was never a big deal at all. Lots of young kids do have issues with chemical laden hand sanitation. 

 

The big problem for this is that my sister's family doesn't have a lot of money so they qualify for free lunches. The lunches are peanut free but frequently use cheese to save on meat costs and they require kids to take milk to drink. Some days all she can eat out of her school lunch (even the meat sometimes had dairy fillers) is an old mealy apple so she needs to bring lunch. Making lunches costs money. She isn't allowed to bring peanuts or tree nuts, she doesn't like sunflower butter, soy butter, hummus, or any other spread like that. She can't use dairy as an inexpensive source of protein. That leaves eggs (which she doesn't care for), tofu and soy milk (doesn't like), beans (she takes these sometimes but she ends up with intestinal issues if she has more than a little), and whole grain. They're occasionally able to get some meat on sale and try and leave enough leftovers 

 

You said "In school, the majority is always considered over the minority".

That's sure is not the case when it comes to peanut alleges. She can't take any nuts to school because there is one child in different classes out of a school of 450 children. All school lunches are peanut/tree nut free and non allergic students are not allowed to bring any kind of nuts to school. At her school the one nut allergic minority is considered over everyone, including the one dairy allergic minority.

 

Your vegetarian children do not have a medical need to eat a meat free diet. My niece does have a medical need to eat a dairy free diet. The school should give children's allergies equal billing. If the kid with the nut allergy gets a nut free lunch provided to them then the kid with the dairy allergy should get one too, that's only fair. 

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What's the rationale for this, OP? Baby wipes don't kill germs, so this really doesn't accomplish anything, unless the children's hands were visibly dirty prior to snack.


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Are they also going to pee in buckets they bring from home because there aren't enough toilets either? 

 

I would e-mail the teacher telling her you are concerned about the lack of hygeine and cc a copy to the principal.  I work in childcare and when the nurse from the health department came out she told us we needed to wash the kids hands with soap and water before and after meals even if the meal consisted only of a bottle.  I don't see how that can possibly fly in grade school where they should have multiple sinks for a large number of students.  If they truly don't have adequate facilities I would go to the district and complain.  I believe there is a requirement for the number of toilets and sinks you have to offer based on how many people use your facility but I am not for sure on that.

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Kindergarten and 1st grade classrooms often have an in-class bathroom w/sink in addition to the larger hallway bathrooms (I assume this is due to the frequency young ones may need to use the toilet, have toileting issues, and need closer supervision). The public elementary schools in my area also have a second sink outside the bathroom.


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Each classroom has 1 sink, and the 2 kindergarten classrooms have a set of bathrooms between them. I didn't go in to check them out or anything, so I have no idea how many stalls/sinks. But its just a couple steps outside the classroom. All they said about bathrooms was that they allow one child at a time to go, and they do not help them or send another child to help them (stressing to parents that children must be toilet independent) 


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strange- seeing that most schools are really PUSHING real hand washing as a way to reduce "colds" and keeping absents low- I really would say something

 

I understand they MUST be potty able but lots of places do push hand washing and often go as groups to a sink so that it is being done

 

have you spoken to any of the other parents (ones you might know) -any remarks from them on this?

 

I guess "wipes" are just so expectable as a way to clean or as the PP kind of said- do they really think they are killing germs or something?


 

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Everyone has good points. What I found as a mother is that anytime you buck the system, you lose points. Be careful what you express concerns about. I agree on the issue of covering their hands with chemicals. Using all those wipes seems to go too far for convenience. How did kindergarteners get through their days before there were diaper wipes? We washed our hands. Maybe the school needs more sinks. Do they think kids will have wipes with them everywhere they go, and what about being earth friendly? Teach them to wash their hands in school so it's habit out and about later. To be fair, kindergarten teachers no longer can just teach the basic numbers, alphabet, colors, school behavior, etc. They are under great pressure to have every child reading before first grade, even though not every child's brain is ready. This may be one reason the are resorting to saving minutes and seconds everywhere they can.

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 What I found as a mother is that anytime you buck the system, you lose points. 

 

 

what's more important?

 

chemicals are chemicals

your child's health is your concern and you deal with the effects of it

cost

waste 

overall effect (need, desired result-removal of germs)

 

sit back and just take it and nothing changes

 

 

teaching children to just go with the system, keep your mouth shut it's no big deal

 

 

what exactly is the benefit of having these "points" for this kindy parent? what do you get for them? is she not going to be able to do what? is her DD going to be effected? what really happens?

 

 

 

this is not what is in question here (we don't use wipes in the schools) schools around offer hand sanitizer (all over the place) you are not mandated to use it- none of all the teachers I know will use it (many have been very vocal about it too) and most children don't either


 

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Although I understand your concerns, it's just not a hill I would die on. bag.gif

 

My reasoning is that my parents were CONSTANTLY making a huge deal over everything. I was always the odd one out, the one with a different deal. Rather than coming from an environmental/natural living point of view, it was all about religion and god for them. It wasn't so bad when I was 5, but as I progressed through childhood I came to loath always doing things differently and having different rules, and that my parents truly didn't care what I thought or how I felt because they we totally wrapped up in "what is right" and "taking a stand."

 

I don't live the life I was raised to live at all.  In the end, I felt like too much was shoved down my throat.

 

Starting K is a big deal. Unless your DD went to Jr K at the exact same school, she has a bunch of adjustments at the beginning of this school year. She has to learn a new building, new rules, get to know new kids. She may be adjusting to being away from home more hours than she is used to. Depending on where you live, she will be under academic pressure to learn the things we didn't learn until first grade.

 

I would just make it as easy for her as possible, and part of that is going with the flow *whenever possible.*  For me, the baby wipes would fall into the category of "not my first choice, but something I can live with."


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nak...i was raised the same...while we let our kids use us an excuses not to do something wrong, my mom would freak out..."you should tell them rock music is a SIN, not blame it on me!" i missed out on sooo much and now i have problems dealing with my own kids and maybe being a pushover bc i don't want my kids being the weird ones. there are lots of things i hate but allow anyway. hand sanitizer at school, whoops the baby is up, more later hopefuly!

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My reasoning is that my parents were CONSTANTLY making a huge deal over everything. I was always the odd one out, the one with a different deal. Rather than coming from an environmental/natural living point of view, it was all about religion and god for them. It wasn't so bad when I was 5, but as I progressed through childhood I came to loath always doing things differently and having different rules, and that my parents truly didn't care what I thought or how I felt because they we totally wrapped up in "what is right" and "taking a stand."


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I find ingesting chemical drastically different than learning a new routine entering K. 

 

propylene glycol is a hill I would die on- to me learning will come second when you don't have good health


 

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Schools really don't care about exceptions as long as it doesn't make their life harder. If you don't want your child to participate... fine, but provide your own option for them. They get upset when they have to pour out money to feed around 15 different special requests. My kids are sensitive to chemicals. It's not life threatening but it gives them rashes. I always just provided their own stuff and it was never a big deal at all. Lots of young kids do have issues with chemical laden hand sanitation. 

 

My daughter was allergic to the standard soap they used in the schools and I had to provide a written statement that I was OK with her just washing with water.  She broke out in huge scaley rashes, etc.  Offer an alternative.

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what's more important?

 

chemicals are chemicals

your child's health is your concern and you deal with the effects of it

cost

waste 

overall effect (need, desired result-removal of germs)

 

sit back and just take it and nothing changes

 

 

teaching children to just go with the system, keep your mouth shut it's no big deal

 

 

what exactly is the benefit of having these "points" for this kindy parent? what do you get for them? is she not going to be able to do what? is her DD going to be effected? what really happens?

 

 

 

this is not what is in question here (we don't use wipes in the schools) schools around offer hand sanitizer (all over the place) you are not mandated to use it- none of all the teachers I know will use it (many have been very vocal about it too) and most children don't either

 

I think the pp has a goog point about "points". To some extent it is true that you do need to be careful to take a stand on what is important because it is hard to get a teacher or principal to work with you when they see you as the mom who has a problem with everything.  For me the problem with losing "points" over little things was that nobody was on my side when my dd got placed with a teacher who despised her from day two.  IME, if they view you as having the same reaction for the baby wipes as you do for the time when your child is being bullied mercilessly or is miserable in class because of a poor teacher it makes for a very negative experience for your child.  Not everyone has the ability to just pull their kid out and do something else so being careful to take a stand on things that are truly important can be crucial. 

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I think the pp has a goog point about "points". To some extent it is true that you do need to be careful to take a stand on what is important because it is hard to get a teacher or principal to work with you when they see you as the mom who has a problem with everything.  For me the problem with losing "points" over little things was that nobody was on my side when my dd got placed with a teacher who despised her from day two.  IME, if they view you as having the same reaction for the baby wipes as you do for the time when your child is being bullied mercilessly or is miserable in class because of a poor teacher it makes for a very negative experience for your child.  Not everyone has the ability to just pull their kid out and do something else so being careful to take a stand on things that are truly important can be crucial. 

I'm not concerned about losing "points". I came up with a solution that should not create any hassle for the teacher beyond not giving my dd a wipe when they are handed out to the other kids (granted I have no idea if the teacher walks around the room passing them out, or keeps a box at each table for kids to help themselves, or if its take one and pass the box on, or what). I am going to make reusable snack bags for her to carry her snack in every day, and it will have a snack compartment and a wipe compartment. I'll make cute little wash cloths for her. Maybe velour on one side and a cute flannel print on the other. It will not be an extra "thing" she has to get from her backpack since she will have to get her snack anyway and its attached, plus she'll have a built in place to put it when she's done. I will be up front with the teacher, tell her why. I'm thinking bring an example of the baggies/wipe sets to the "meet the teacher open house" and be like, "look what I made for dd, aren't they cute? Hey, is it alright if instead of using a baby wipe to clean her hands before snack, she can just use these? I'd really rather her not use any "product" on her hands that she can't rinse off immediately prior to eating, since some of it will inevitably be transferred to her food! I'll make sure its no extra work for you" And if any other parent sees them and thinks its the coolest thing in the world, I will totally make some for any classmates who want them, and free ;) We're in a pretty crunchy area, really. Absolute worst case scenario I can think of is teacher refuses, gives her wipes anyway, and makes her use it. I will teach her to use her wash cloth afterwards before eating if that happens. I don't think that will make her stand out as too "different" or "weird kid" at all. If anything I think it would make kids look and think she has something cool and fancy that they don't! You know, kinda like the kids who have the cool sparkly pencils instead of the boring yellow ones, haha. And really, she is an exceptionally social, well-behaved kid who thrives in social settings.. I think things that make kids stand out as "different" is more potentially harmful for kids who are a little more socially timid, or embarassed about it. She's not.  If its something she's proud of and excited to use, then she will set that tone. (And I know her personality. She'll love it) 


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