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What are all of your opinions of this curriculum?

I'm getting ready to enroll dd in a pre-k for the fall and this is what they use.

This curriculum is heavily phonics based right?

I've heard some negative things about it.

Anybody know why?
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Some of the negative things may be related to the heavily religious (conservative Christian) content. This could be a detriment or an asset to you, depending on your viewpoint.
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Some of the negative things may be related to the heavily religious (conservative Christian) content. This could be a detriment or an asset to you, depending on your viewpoint.
Oh, I didn't know that the curriculum itself was Christian based. Maybe that's why.
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My mom tried to have me use it for 4th grade.

A 4th grader trying to learn algebra when she has a hard enough time with regular ole math is a bad thing

Abeka is great for kids who need a challenge.

And yes it is Christian.
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I used the Abeka program to homeschool my 4 yo. It was a nightmare. They are SUPER HEAVY in worksheets/reward systems. The math was super easy -reading rough. The goal of the program is to have the child reading simple books by approx Christmas. My Dd who is pretty advanced bucked against the drilling and we dropped it. I actually used this bc we were going to send her to a private school that used it... I thought it would give a steady flow. Due to this experience we switched schools as well. THIS IS NOT TO SAY IT'S HORRIBLE, JUST NOT FOR MY DD. Your child might do well. Also this program is not just Christian but pretty fundamentalist. I actually still have the lesson plan books and if you are interested in seeing some samples of them pm me.

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I used the Abeka program to homeschool my 4 yo. It was a nightmare. They are SUPER HEAVY in worksheets/reward systems. The math was super easy -reading rough. The goal of the program is to have the child reading simple books by approx Christmas. My Dd who is pretty advanced bucked against the drilling and we dropped it. I actually used this bc we were going to send her to a private school that used it... I thought it would give a steady flow. Due to this experience we switched schools as well. THIS IS NOT TO SAY IT'S HORRIBLE, JUST NOT FOR MY DD. Your child might do well. Also this program is not just Christian but pretty fundamentalist. I actually still have the lesson plan books and if you are interested in seeing some samples of them pm me.
Yes, that's what the teacher said - - that they were pretty heavy in the seatwork/worksheet type thing.

She explained how she doesn't use them that way etc.. and gave examples of some cute activities she incorporates to go along w/the worksheets.

PM'ing you! Thanks!
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I would recommend parts of it. The Handbook for Reading is a great resource to teaching phonics. It is not a program just a supplemental book. I also think that Abeka language arts can't be topped. Going through the program gives a student a firm grasp on grammer. We are using it for my ADD 3rd grade niece and she likes it and does well with it.

But overall Abeka is very worksheet based. I have no experience with their pre-k program though.
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I don't have the link handy but I recall finding a website one time that had an extended critique of the worldview that apparently permeates A Beka - that it is not only Christian, but a particular variety called Dominionist that seems pretty out there in terms of how it views the rest of the world. The website suggested this viewpoint/project permeates all of the subject areas, from handwriting through math....
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I don't have the link handy but I recall finding a website one time that had an extended critique of the worldview that apparently permeates A Beka - that it is not only Christian, but a particular variety called Dominionist that seems pretty out there in terms of how it views the rest of the world. The website suggested this viewpoint/project permeates all of the subject areas, from handwriting through math....
I would love to see that if you can find it.

One thing I was a little over, was how they introduce CURSIVE writing to kindergarteners! That's a little crazy imo. (Speaking as a former educator.)
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Found it:

http://www.theocracywatch.org/schools2.htm

If you scroll down, there are some links regarding A Beka.
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Found it:

http://www.theocracywatch.org/schools2.htm

If you scroll down, there are some links regarding A Beka.
Thank you for this link. Quite a few of the preschools and a private school in my area use this curriculum. I knew it was a Christian-based program, but didn't really understand it. While I don't have a specific problem with it for a young child in preschool, it's made me much more comfortable in my decision not to send my children to the Christian private school here beyond pre-kindergarten.
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Found it:

http://www.theocracywatch.org/schools2.htm

If you scroll down, there are some links regarding A Beka.
Thank you!

And I've heard a lot of people say exactly that Hannah's Mom about the school(s) here that do use it. I've heard them say pre-school was fine, but after that they'd choose a different school.
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I'm sending a "day-in-the-life" type of package out to you tomorrow... but reading the post you brought the cursive to my attention. I purchased the manuscript kit bc I think cursive for a 4 yo is just :

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hi,

I am 25yo and I went to a private school that used the a beka curriculum exclusively. It *is* a heavily christian based curriculum. And it is christian in a very pushy kind of way. there are specific bible classes, but the other subjucts like history, science, and even math, also incorporate the bible. BUT, in my humble opinion it is an *exellent* curiculum for learing phonics and reading. I am considering sending my dd's to a school that uses this curriculum, even though it is a little too pushy for my taste, jsut because the public schools here are very far below standard. Sorry for going on and on.
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hi,

I am 25yo and I went to a private school that used the a beka curriculum exclusively. It *is* a heavily christian based curriculum. And it is christian in a very pushy kind of way. there are specific bible classes, but the other subjucts like history, science, and even math, also incorporate the bible. BUT, in my humble opinion it is an *exellent* curiculum for learing phonics and reading. I am considering sending my dd's to a school that uses this curriculum, even though it is a little too pushy for my taste, jsut because the public schools here are very far below standard. Sorry for going on and on.
Yeah, this is kind of the situation here. I don't want dds in the public schools here where I live now. I'm not thrilled about this curriculum, but I guess for pre-school it is okay. Even though I'm a former teacher, homeschooling is not right for us, sooo . .. our choices are kind of limited.

I like Montessori but it is SUPER expensive - like $550 a month and they don't take part time students. I don't want to send dd full time just yet, but I DO want her to go somewhere part time.

Plus, to think about Montessori for two girls is just . . . .: $1,100 per month!
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I would love to see that if you can find it.

One thing I was a little over, was how they introduce CURSIVE writing to kindergarteners! That's a little crazy imo. (Speaking as a former educator.)
In France they teach kindergarteners and first-graders cursive before printing, because it's considered easier than printing. Printing comes later. Maybe that's where the Abeka people got the idea.
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I'm sending a "day-in-the-life" type of package out to you tomorrow... but reading the post you brought the cursive to my attention. I purchased the manuscript kit bc I think cursive for a 4 yo is just :
Thank you mama!
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In France they teach kindergarteners and first-graders cursive before printing, because it's considered easier than printing. Printing comes later. Maybe that's where the Abeka people got the idea.
Really? That's interesting. It just seems to me that the kids would become frustrated. I know my 2nd graders did and they were 7 and 8 years old.

Plus, I mean, who really needs to know *penmanship* anymore anyway? Everyone uses computers yk?
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It's considered easier because you don't have to form separate letters and can just let them run together, and it's really obvious where the words begin and end. I think whether they get frustrated is a matter of which one you learn first. I went to first grade in a French school and learned cursive as my "penmanship" (I could already draw printed letters but hadn't had formal instruction in it really), and then second grade at an American school and it was hard for me to make the switch to printing. So I think whichever one you learn first is probably the one you consider easier.
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I have taught in a preschool and grade school that uses Abeka. Overall, I like A Beka. My biggest caution would be with the PreK or lower to make sure they are providing ample free-play and hands on activities. A Beka has a lot of seatwork and teachers have to improvise other activities to make it a well rounded program. Also, look at your child's temperment. Do you think they would struggle with having to stay in their seat and follow particular directions on worksheets? How flexible are the school's teachers about this?

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My child benefit from the phonics and reading. It was detailed and made her do well in public schools reading.

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I keep wanting to comment but I don't think my comments will go over well.  Even though I am a Christian, the A Beka agenda really scares me.  The history and science are just...not even sort of based in fact.

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My daughter is a young kindergartener (turned 5 3 days after starting kindergarten) and we started her out in public school. She is an extremely bright kid who usually picks things up very quickly. she is also a very social kid. However, her first 2 weeks at public school were a nightmare. she did not do well at all. We pulled her out thinking it had much to do with her age. She went to  Lutheran MDO program 3 days a week prior to kinder and loved it. I didn't want her to sit out another year before she started school so i called around and found a half day kinder at a private Christian school.  They use the a beka curriculum. They told us when we applied that the kids would be reading by Christmas.  My question is this, my child is not only NOT reading but seams to have lost some ground being in this school. Not being too familiar with the curriculum, we really aren't sure what to expect but i am suspecting it is a teacher issue. Pretty much all of her reading skills have come from my husband and myself. i am paying a pretty penny to have her in this school so she isn't bored like she was in public school and while that has been solved, it seems that she is not bored due to excessive play. i am meeting with the principal this week and really wanted to have some ammo when i go in. Am i overreacting? an advice or comments on the subject is greatly appreciated. Please help!

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My child is ADHD and has attended 2 different schools with the A BEKA curriculum. As far as a hard core religious view that is simply not true. It provides a Christian perspective that can be found in almost any mainstream Christian church today. As far as the course work it is very demanding. The math is extremely advanced. Pre-K learns word problems in math before they can read. As for reading and language skills their is a lot of homework but it pays off. My child went from behind his reading level to 3 grades levels above based on national standardized testing results. 

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My child's school follows he A Beka curriculum and they learned cursive in the 3rd grade. 

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Hello,

 

I know this thread is really old, but do you still have some copies/samples for me to view?  I am looking into a private school that uses this.  We are Christian, but vier more to the liberation theology/social justice/ follow Jesus' life of simplicity side...(hate we have to use terms to separate, but, unfortunately it is what is is...)

 

Thanks for any help!

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