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#1 of 31 Old 09-17-2008, 11:15 AM - Thread Starter
 
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I don't even know what some of these words mean.

Regicide? I can guess, but seriously...
Rectitude - seriously having to look up!
Archetype, again I can guess

How about the rest...
regal
regime
archenemy
archrival - computer puts a red line under it meaning it is spelled wrong:
regimen
monarch
architect
rectangle
rector
archangel
hierarchy
regalia
regulation
anarchy
reign
archive
oligarchy
Missouri
Mississippi
hundredths

I find this rather difficult for a 9 yr old. What do you think?
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It sounds like they're working on word roots. I don't know it it's too difficult - I haven't seen the lesson that goes with it.
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They are all rooted together, but when a graduate student has to look up her 5th graders words, she has to wonder...

Makes me think how in the world did I make it! Oh, I'm in a math field, so English isn't my strong suit.
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I would have loved, loved, loved that at that age!
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I find it a refreshing breath of air from the usual "dumbed-down" curriculum, personally.

I remember one of my fourth-grade words being "receive."

Anyway, they sound like they're probably all taken from a current reading book or something.

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Very similar words and word groupings for my 6th graders.

Websters.com says:
Main Entry: arch·ri·val
Pronunciation: \-ˈrī-vəl\
Function: noun
Date: 1941
: a principal rival
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If they had a lesson about roots that would definitely be doable - if you know 'arch' and 'reg' you're halfway to figuring them all out (execpt the states and 100th). I didn't learn latin/greek roots until high school, but it was one of the most helpful/memorable things in my education. Definitely worth the work if they're actually learning the roots/prefixes/suffixes and how things go together.
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I think it looks fine, are you thinking it is too hard?
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That's an awesome list. Granted, I was a bookworm at that age, but it sounds like a good basis for reading a lot of great historical and fantasy stories about politics and monarchies. Good stuff.
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Both of my daughters would have had no problem with any of those words at age 9.

The only one I don't know is oligarchy- but it puts in mind a bottle of oil trying to run a country.

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I'd say it is all abot context. Why are they learning this list? If the teacher found it on-line and thought it looked good while she teaches other factoids, then is it a waste of time. If the teacher is using it to support a great history lesson, then it is wonderful.

You have good reason to question your kids' teachers. On the other hand, undermining a good program isn't helpful.

Kids with involved parents do better in school. However, it is challenging to be involveing without being confrontational. Ask the teacher where she got the words and work from there.
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I don't consider them difficult words. They are not words that appear regularly in our vocabulary, but certainly not difficult. Definitely not for a 9 year old.

They are good words to know how to spell without relying on a spell checker or dictionary.
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I think they're great!

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I like the list.

I think a lot of curriculum is "dumbed down" so this is a pleasant suprise.

I do acknowledge thqt this list is harder than most of the lists I have seen for 5th graders - but I am not sure that is a bad thing
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Looks like a good list to me.

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Are they reading Hamlet or Robinhood or somesuch? What's the context.

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archrival - computer puts a red line under it meaning it is spelled wrong:
The computer "thinks" you mean archival (as in: I printed the photos on archival paper) instead of archrival (as in: Moriarty was Holmes' archrival.)

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looks fine to me - but my daughter's first grade class spelled metamorphosis, proboscis, compartmentalize and renegade...
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In current education-ese, for vocabulary teaching, there are everyday "tier 1" words, "tier 2" words that are important words but not used everyday (often include prefixes or suffixes, or maybe considered "smart people" words), and there are "tier 3" words that are unique to a domain or profession (lawyer-ese, for example; or even "Tier words" in education ). Anyway, these sound like very good tier 2 words to help the kids expand their vocabulary knowledge and provide opportunity to learn about the prefixes/suffixes, potentially around a theme or book.

Hard words, sure. Too hard - nah! Glad your school is working on vocabulary development.
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There also seem to be a lot of words with the hard -ch- sound, almost half of them, maybe that's a theme they are working on?

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There also seem to be a lot of words with the hard -ch- sound, almost half of them, maybe that's a theme they are working on?
All of the words with the hard CH are using the same root arch

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sounds like a good not too hard not too easy group of thematically related words
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Did your DD skip a grade, or do 9 year olds normally go to 5th grade in your state?

Here the cut-off has 9 year olds in either 3rd or 4th grade. My son who turns 9 next week is in 3rd. He would find the list too challenging at this point (spelling is one of his very weak points), but it does seem appropriate for 5th grade.

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looks fine to me - but my daughter's first grade class spelled metamorphosis, proboscis, compartmentalize and renegade...
Now *that* I find odd.

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Did your DD skip a grade, or do 9 year olds normally go to 5th grade in your state?

Here the cut-off has 9 year olds in either 3rd or 4th grade. My son who turns 9 next week is in 3rd. He would find the list too challenging at this point (spelling is one of his very weak points), but it does seem appropriate for 5th grade.
I'm not sure what state the OP is in, but in CA there would be 9 year olds at this point of the year in 5th grade (December cut-off). In my state, WA, most 9 year olds would be in 4th grade (Sept cut off)--- turning 10 during the year.

 

 

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[QUOTE=TiredX2;12218422]Now *that* I find odd.

My dd's words were a combination of words that had to do with their lessons and words that kids in the class encountered during the week that had intrigued them. It was fascinating to see how excited they became about spelling and vocabulary development when they were spelling a word that a classmate contributed
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In first grade, the teacher started giving my son and a few other kids really hard spelling words to challenge them. He started getting 50% on his spelling tests, where he was getting 100% before. It bothered me a little, but my son didn't seem to care, so I held my tongue. Then he learned how to study by having those tests, and was getting 100% with the really hard words a few months later. So I was glad I waited before reacting.

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op, i agree with you. i too am surprised if those are normal spelling words for a classroom of 9 yr. olds.

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Does the whole class have the same list? That's a great list for some kids, but too much for some 5th graders. When I taught 5th grade spelling, I would never give a list that long--most kids will be able to spell most of the words for Friday's test, but they usually can't digest and remember 20 new words a week. I wanted them to OWN their words, not just use them for a week and then move on to the next long list.

Those are great words, though. Most of my kids last year would have loved that list!
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I like how the words (with the exception of the few at the end) are interrelated. Sounds like a cool list of words to me!

I would have liked this sort of thing as a kid. I remember that the spelling words seemed so arbitrary to me, it was boring, and I never cared about memorizing them. Though I was an excellent student, I did poorly at spelling. I was an avid reader and writer, always way, way above my age level in what I was reading, so it wasn't a comprehension problem. This sort of approach, which I am guessing has the kids looking at meaning and word history as a way to approach spelling, would have been much more interesting to me.

It also reminds me of those SAT-prep training materials.

(my son is just 3-- and he sometimes points out shared roots in words, just b/c he notices the same sounds in the words-- so I think its probably a normal way for some people to learn and understand vocab).

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All those words are familiar to me. I think it's a terrific list. Why shouldn't fifth graders learn words like that?? Ever read the Little House books? Those are the kind of words the Ingalls girls studied in their readers back in the day. Standards have fallen sadly, but not at your school, it sounds like.

I had to memorize lists of spelling words as a kid and they are still firmly in my head. Not to difficult for a 9yo at all.
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