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tracymom1 09-02-2009 11:15 PM

We have been trying for a week now to get DD to take a bottle of EBM with no luck.
So far I have tried Born Free, Avent, Medela and an Adiri nurser. I am going to Babies R Us tomorrow to check out the selection and see if there is anything different/unique that I haven't tried yet.

Every time DH puts the bottle to her lips she absolutely screams bloody murder... I have never seen anything like it. She goes from calm and happy to very, very angry in a matter of seconds. I had a feeling this would happen because she is such a needy nurser - and she just couldn't seem to figure out how to use a paci. DS was so different! Although he preferred to nurse, he had no problem taking a bottle when it was offered.

Has anyone had success with bottles? Which ones have you used?

an_aurora 09-02-2009 11:20 PM

We try to give DS a bottle every couple of days so he knows how, since I have to go back to work in a couple of weeks . Honestly I have had the best of luck with the plain, cheap old Gerber preemie bottles. DS also takes a pacifier so I think that does help. There are times though when he definitely does not want the bottle--he wants his mama! I hope he doesn't have too rough of a time when I go to work

fawnanddoe 09-03-2009 12:08 AM

Elijah has been good with taking a bottle. DH had to give him one all day when I was getting my PET scan.
We've done good with the Think Baby bottles and are using their slow flow nipple on it. I could probably use a fast flow nipple though and it would still be slower than my oversupplied breasts

curious&eager 09-03-2009 01:24 AM

My dh gives ds a bottle once a week. We just use the bottle that came with the pump and he seems to have no problem with it. I'm not there to see it. He took it with no problems on the first try. Sorry I can't offer any advice.

curious&eager 09-03-2009 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by fawnanddoe View Post
I could probably use a fast flow nipple though and it would still be slower than my oversupplied breasts
I was thinking the same thing too. I bottle doesn't squirt like my breasts do. A fast flowing nipple is certainly slower than my milk fountains. I feel bad for ds when he chokes on it. Now he's figuring out ways to handle to flow- letting go and getting sprayed, spitting it out on me, oh my favorite, that he did at church when I was nursing on the front row, he let his mouth fill with milk and then he simply tipped his head and dumped the whole mouthful out on me. He did this twice before I gave up not wanting to be soaked and stepped out of the church a feed him in private on a couch were I could catch the milk from his escapes. I hear you can pump to take the edge off the flow, but who would want to carry a pump around and use it at every feed. I'd rather just rescue my "drowning fish" when he chokes and try again.

pinksprklybarefoot 09-03-2009 02:20 AM

We introduced a bottle after about a month - I am in school, so he has to have "Daddy milks" a couple of nights a week.

We use the Born Free bottles, and haven't had an issue.

If bottles don't work, I've heard that you can try a syringe (the medicine kind), a spoon, or a cup.

rjruiz_415 09-03-2009 02:40 AM

We have not, and won't be trying anytime soon... I wanted to chime in and say that with DD1, she also refused some bottles on your list, but my mom went out and got those playtex latex ones, and she took that one with no problem. I don't know if she was this young when we did it though...

bajamergrrl 09-03-2009 03:12 AM

I'm about to introduce the bottle to DS this weekend. I start work next week and my mother will be watching him for a few weeks. He sometimes will take a pacifier but that's after some coaxing. Maybe he won't outright reject the bottle because he has a reward (aka milk) for sucking on it. We'll see. At least I know he'll accept milk from a spoon if need be.

ETA: I'll be trying the Dex Milk Bank vented bottles.

serenekitten 09-03-2009 11:19 AM

We've used the ones that came with our Evenflo pump. The package of Dr. Brown bottles has been opened and washed, but not sure if any have been used.

I've had frequent disagreements with the rest of the family about using bottles and pacis. DS only takes a paci under protest (that's my boy! ).

alicewyf 09-03-2009 12:40 PM

Lily had her first bottle of EBM last Saturday (I work 5 hours on each weekend day). She was 5 weeks old. She takes about 7 oz. while I'm gone.

We used the Medela bottles and they worked fine, but I think we are going to try NUK this weekend. She occasionally uses a Soothie paci.

My motto w/r/t artificial nipples of any kind is "only if mommy isn't available." So...yeah. They only get used if I'm not there. But we haven't had any nipple confusion issues, thank goodness. And she definitely prefers my breasts...when I got home from work both days it was like a nursing marathon for several hours!

BlessedEarthMother 09-03-2009 01:15 PM

We haven't started yet but I have a friend whose baby refused every bottle except the playtex drop in nursers.

Ianthe 09-03-2009 02:12 PM

I went back to school too, so DS is with DH or MIL 2 nights a week. He takes a bottle and a paci for others, but certainly not for me. We use Evenflow glass bottles with slow flow nipples (the faster flow would just drip all over in his mouth, he has to work at getting milk from my breasts- though amply supplied).

bananababies 09-03-2009 03:59 PM

For those babies who won't take a bottle, I highly suggest trying to cup feed. My dd often wouldn't take a bottle (she would occasionally ), and cup feeding worked really well for her.

LindsC 09-04-2009 12:21 AM

We started introducing a bottle to DD when she was around 6 weeks old since I was going back to work around 8 weeks. She has had no problem taking the bottle from anyone. She is still a booby girl when I am home in the evenings and cluster feeds a lot. We use the Breastflow bottles.

katylynn 09-04-2009 05:41 PM

We just gave Parker his first bottle 2 nights ago. I kept saying that I was going to try a bottle at 4 weeks, but I just got lazy and never got my pump out until this week. I wish that I could just stay home for the first 9 months or so, just to nurse him. I HATE pumping, but I will go back to work on Oct 5th,so I need to start storing up. Thankfully, I only work three 8-hr or less days. Anyhow, after about 5-10 min of crying, he took the bottle. Not sure how much to give him or how much he needs at a feeding, but we're trying. The bottle was something leftover from my son, so not sure the kind. I think that it does help that he takes a pacifier once in awhile. Good luck--it's so stressful!

Quindin 09-05-2009 09:36 AM

I have been having some bad problems with recurrent thrush this time around, so I had to introduce a bottle 4 weeks ago, so my nipples could take a break 1-2 times a day.
Luckily, unlike her siblings, DD had no problem accepting the bottle! We have an Avent bottle.

durafemina 09-06-2009 05:39 PM

ds has had a couple now with no issues - we always do it when I'm out of the house though or I don't think ds would settle for not-mama!!

LilMomma83 09-12-2009 11:52 PM

IT took a little while for my LO to get used to it, someone suggested preemie nipples (you can purchase them online, Dr. Brown's makes some), but, I never tried it...we used the narrow Nuk nipples for a while, and now we are using those along with the Adiri breast bottle. We introduced at just under 2wks and it wasn't until about 8-9wks that he took it really well. He still refuses it (like screams) if I am in the room...he's totally different than my first son, who happily took a bottle from the first time we introduced it--even from me.

chrisndanni 09-14-2009 11:18 PM

My daughter has only had EBM 3 times (the first was at about 5 weeks) but she did well with it right from the start. The first two times were with the containers I pump the milk into with one of the nipples the hospital sent us home with. I went to Babies-R-Us a few weeks ago to get her some better bottles and bought two of the Nuby Natural Touch bottles. I liked that they are squeezable and the nipples seem to have more of a breast shape/size. She has used them once so far and though I wasn't there I was told she did well. I don't pump or use bottles alot at this point though so I don't have experience with different kinds. She also does use a pacifier though the only one she has ever wanted is the one from the hospital.

Mama Lo 09-15-2009 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BlessedEarthMother View Post
We haven't started yet but I have a friend whose baby refused every bottle except the playtex drop in nursers.
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I had to go back to work part-time after 6 wks, dd took/takes ebm in the playtex nurser.

lily7 09-15-2009 10:50 PM

Tracymom! Were you able to solve this problem. My baby is screaming bloody murder as well. And I am back to work part time. Today I had to leave work early because the baby would just scream and not eat at all. I am looking for any advice from people that had this issue.

tracymom1 09-16-2009 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by lily7 View Post
Tracymom! Were you able to solve this problem.
Nope! Still trying! Nearly every day DH tries to give DD a bottle and each time she screams and cries as if she were in some kind of terrible physical pain. It is just too much to take! He stops, clams her down, and tries again and the same insanity just starts back up. We have tried several bottles - Avent, Born Free, Adiri, Playtex, BreastFlow and Evenflow. We try each at least twice.

Sigh... we may try a cup soon if this doesn't change.

lily7 09-16-2009 04:05 PM

I tried pretty much all the same stuff, I can tell you that for us the best one was the one that I didnt see you try, the Gerber's Nuk for standard bottles with vent hole, it is flat and has a hole placed on top of the nipple vs. at the end:
http://www.toysrus.com/product/index...ductId=2793384
I was able to put the hole against his tongue and he was eating. We will see how lucky my mom is today while I am gone.
We pretty much have the same issue, with screaming, sweating and it is heartbreaking.

GoodNamesGone 09-23-2009 03:12 AM

I had/have supply issues and have had to suppliment . DD has been taking a bottle since she was 3 weeks. Strangely, she hates pacis. I think that "milk reward" is what is going on.

I -AM- proud to say that she prefers the breast over bottle, and EBM over formula . I need to get more serious about getting her off of the formula, but it is kind of hard when you are dealing with PPD -and- being told that you might never be able to make enough milk. I feel a lot better now, and think I might be able to tackle it. That's a conversation for the Breast-feeding forum though.

Anyway! We give her wide low flow nipples and she's had no problem taking them, or going back and forth from them to breast. In fact, the bottle seemed to help her be a better nurser.

Ianthe 09-23-2009 03:25 AM

We are having problems too!!! Oliver won't take a bottle or Paci!! I am going to school now 2 nights a week and my poor MIL has been helping with a very unhappy baby!

tracymom1 09-23-2009 10:11 AM

Well, we have finally had some success!

DD has finally started taking the bottle from DH! After 3 weeks of trying, she finally found a nipple that agrees with her and the screaming has stopped (and no more wasted EBM!!! yeah!). Oddly, the only nipple she likes is from the Evenflow Purely Comfy bottle - the least expensive bottle I have found - of course, after spending a fortune on "designer" bottles like Adiri.

Persistence pays!

Ianthe 09-23-2009 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tracymom1 View Post
Well, we have finally had some success!

DD has finally started taking the bottle from DH! After 3 weeks of trying, she finally found a nipple that agrees with her and the screaming has stopped (and no more wasted EBM!!! yeah!). Oddly, the only nipple she likes is from the Evenflow Purely Comfy bottle - the least expensive bottle I have found - of course, after spending a fortune on "designer" bottles like Adiri.

Persistence pays!
That's the nipple we've been trying cuz it fits on our glass bottles. Yay for you!!!


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