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Is this typical teething?
She also rolled over today for the first time, and bit her own foot today for the first time. Are these milestones making her clingy, or teething, or something else?
She starts crying if I leave her side for a second.
I can get any sleep - she's kicking and grunting all night while asleep, and waking every hour to nurse overnight. and she won't nap.
She's 15 weeks.
I was giving tylenol, and Hylands tabs & gel, and Rescue Remedy, and Oragel, and frozen spoons, washcloths, teething rings etc..., but am nervous about too much tylenol. It did seem to help overnight.

She's currently fussing and shrieking trying to roll over again on the floor.
and now crying....
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We have some of the same stuff going on over here, but not as bad as you have it. Hang in there!!!
One day I think he's teething because of the sheer quantity of drool and how HARD he bites down on my fingers. Then the next day, no drool, but farts like you would not believe. So maybe it's all just gas?
We are nursing seemingly nonstop around the clock. Lots of clingyness, and crying. Then there will be a day when he is a delight, smiling, cute, napping. Then the next day, back to being a mess again. It's so unpredicable! Maybe it is just milestones that are putting our little ones off kilter.
Or maybe elves sneak in here at night for the very brief time that we are actually asleep, and swap one baby out for an identical looking but different baby. I swear, he is a different kid every day!!!

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[QUOTE=joyakshi;14987798]
waking every hour to nurse overnightQUOTE]

Kara has been doing this. Along with a lot of chewing and drooling. It is misery for me! I got more sleep when she was a newborn! I feel bad for her too of course.

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We have drooling (and I mean DROOOOOLING) and hand eating over here to (And we got the first roll a few days ago- I shreiked!)

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Drooling and chewing. DS was a frequent waker, fortunately dd is a better sleeper. Food intolerances can cause frequent waking -- with ds, I didn't do any elimination until much later; with dd I've been avoiding many of the common allergens, and notice sleep is better. I had already been avoiding gluten, soy, most dairy, almonds, hen's eggs (do duck eggs), MSG and a few other things, due to my own reactions. I don't know if that's why she's a better sleeper or if it's just that i lucked out. Anyway, clingy and teething is pulsatilla -- you can buy it as a single remedy at a health food store or online -- and crush it between two spoons and dissolve it in water, then give a small amount to the baby. I've been alternating pulsatilla and chamomilla (sp?).
Developmental things will definitely disrupt sleep too though. And will continue to for at least a couple of years on and off (along with teething of course). The two year molars are the last real sleep-interrupted teeth, fortunately. But that's a long time!

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As my DH said yesterday-teething what a flawed system of our bodies. Yes teething sucks, I've had 2 babies teeth in their first 3 months-hardly fair.

I was just reading a thread in LWAB about the Wonder Weeks which also shows "stormy" periods when developmental milestones are happening. Maybe check that out, it's supposed to be a good book to give insight into the development in the first year.

FWIW-I despise teething, iy seriously was what kept me from wanting to get pg for a few years.

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3 mos is prime time for a growth spurt and 4 mos is sleep regression. yeeehaw! (NOT)

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Sleep regression? Is that what's going on? Sheesh...I didn't think it was possible to get any worse. Last night DH and I pretty much just laid awake while DD thrashed restlessly in between us. There is not enough coffee to get me going today.

And she's definitely got her hand in her mouth 90% of the day. But she's 16 weeks and nowhere near rolling over!!! Hmm, I wonder how we can make tummy time more effective? She'll only tolerate it for about 2 minutes max and just does the flying thing, doesn't use her elbows to prop herself up, just strains her neck until she becomes angry. Maybe if she got some more sleep, she'd have more mental and physical energy to hit this milestone!

i remember hearing that all of this gets better around the 4 month mark...but, I feel like we're going backwards.
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Friendlee - there are aways so many similaritis in our posts/issues!
Roslyn is thrashing and grunting and kicking me ALL night. I did not sleep til I "had to walk away" at 4AM and let DH shhh her down in the hammock, and I went and took a Benadryl. I think she's trying to roll over in her sleep.

Sleep regression? yikes. we weren't even that progressed.
they say it gets easier after the "4th trimester" but this is definitely harder.
I miss getting 2 hours of sleep, uninterrupted.

I guess it helps to know I'm not the only one, but my system cannot handle day upon day of no sleep. I did ok on two- 2 to 3 hour stretches per night, but this, I can't handle it.

and it took us 16 months to get pregnant so I feel bad even complaining, I'm lucky she's here, and she's amazing, but lack of sleep ruins me.

do I even bother trying to figure it our & fix it? new crib mattress arrived today. will it even help?

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Sleep regression? Is that what's going on? Sheesh...I didn't think it was possible to get any worse. Last night DH and I pretty much just laid awake while DD thrashed restlessly in between us. There is not enough coffee to get me going today.

And she's definitely got her hand in her mouth 90% of the day. But she's 16 weeks and nowhere near rolling over!!! Hmm, I wonder how we can make tummy time more effective? She'll only tolerate it for about 2 minutes max and just does the flying thing, doesn't use her elbows to prop herself up, just strains her neck until she becomes angry. Maybe if she got some more sleep, she'd have more mental and physical energy to hit this milestone!

i remember hearing that all of this gets better around the 4 month mark...but, I feel like we're going backwards.
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btw - if you're at home and DH has a demanding job, does he help with nighttime parenting, or is it all you? how do you balance & take breaks?
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btw - if you're at home and DH has a demanding job, does he help with nighttime parenting, or is it all you? how do you balance & take breaks?
Sounds like its both things.... the whole working on rolling over and teething. ds is handing sucking, thumb sucking, finger sucking... cluster feeding, yada yada.. yes we were sleeping alot better a month ago... Now I am so so so tired. He was sleeping from 7-8 pm till 2 am and now he is up at 9 , 11, 12, 2 yawn!!!!
Ds woke up yesterday on his back ( he sleeps on his belly) he had rolled over! But he has only done it once and I think being on the mattress helped.

Dh helps at night because honestly I HATE co sleeping. I just find it very uncomfortable. It hurts my neck and back and I don't sleep soundly. We have the whole side car crib arrangment where he normally sleeps except lately with the all night nurse a thon and being a general pain in the butt at night! ) he ends up in our bed. I'll often nurse him and then hand him over for Dh to "hold/cuddle : him so I can sleep comfortably on my belly and not with a baby attached to my breast all night long. Other than that though its all me. Ds used to be great at taking the pacy but lately with all the teething all he wants is the breast.

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Mine has been super clingy, sleepy.. drooling and blowing spit bubbles chewing on hands chewing on me, getting up multiple times per night.

Part of me feels it is a little annoying and draining and part of me loves How much he needs me

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i do all of the night time parenting and most of the daytime stuff. dh plays with her but any time anyone else holds her and she cries, i get her thrust back at me it took us 3 + yrs to get her so i feel guilty, too. oh, and she does not roll over. she does not sleep anywhere but on me.

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Jen, my Bill is a lot like yours, he just plays with dd a bit and expects me to deal with diapers/pottying and crying and nighttime parenting. He gets tired, he goes to bed, I get tired I have to keep pushing myself. Not fair! He went to bed at 9 tonight, which was right when I got dd down finally and was needing a break from ds. Well, guess what, instead ds is watching videos. Oh well. I don't want to complain too much, but I have felt lately that dh resents anything I ask him to do to help out. Last night, or was it the night before, I was trying to nurse dd down, and ds kept coming in. I told ds to ask dh to read to him and ds came back and reported that dh didn't want to. I yelled out "why not" and he said "I was just taking a few minutes to do some work, but now that I'm being forced to do it, I'm not going to" -- as of I ever ever ever get to say no to anybody around here! Urg!

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Jen, my Bill is a lot like yours, he just plays with dd a bit and expects me to deal with diapers/pottying and crying and nighttime parenting. He gets tired, he goes to bed, I get tired I have to keep pushing myself. Not fair! He went to bed at 9 tonight, which was right when I got dd down finally and was needing a break from ds. Well, guess what, instead ds is watching videos. Oh well. I don't want to complain too much, but I have felt lately that dh resents anything I ask him to do to help out. Last night, or was it the night before, I was trying to nurse dd down, and ds kept coming in. I told ds to ask dh to read to him and ds came back and reported that dh didn't want to. I yelled out "why not" and he said "I was just taking a few minutes to do some work, but now that I'm being forced to do it, I'm not going to" -- as of I ever ever ever get to say no to anybody around here! Urg!
wow, are you sure we aren't married to the same guy :P

i finally got amelia to sleep at 12:40. well, she woke up screaming and unconsolable at about 1:15. i've been sleeping in the living room with her because he gets pissy if she wakes him :S he came out there and glowered at me because she was screaming. the last time she did that (about a week ago) he came out and said "why don't you just nurse her???" why??? i just nursed her for 3 hrs straight and my nipples fell off! she gets too tired and won't nurse! i swear, he's such a genius for thinking of nursing the screaming baby!

i'm beyond tired. i'm physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually drained. i have no desire to do things and i look like hell. i should probably go to my dr, but i know that they will give me happy pills when all i really need is an hour of uninterrupted sleep. i love this kid, but i seriously spend 22+ hrs/day holding her and after the tough pg and everthing, i need a break!

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Clem hit 4 months on Monday and I'm sorry to say, today has been weird. She screamed and cried for a half hour for seemingly no reason at all. I was starting to get really panicked. She's been doing this thin where she wakes up crying but once she really wakes up, she stops and gets smiley. But this was something different. She has the drool, the bubbles, the hands in mouth, all that. I gave her teething tablets and it didn't seem to do much. We slept all right last night, nothing out of the ordinary and she went down for her first nap fine. It was when she woke up I could tell she was cranky and boy was she ever. She hasn't cried like that since the newborn days. She did stop when I held and swayed her in front of the mirror, so that's why I don't think she was in any pain.

What happens at 4 months again? She has rolled belly to back many times but it was weeks ago and she really shows no interest in doing it again (just like my son). She's ben grabbing at stuff, etc. But what is with this horrible fussiness? It makes me dread staying home with her....she's not my sweet baby but a ticking time bomb.
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Well I am DDC crashing - but actually there is a normal growth spurt at about 3 months or so, which would naturally come with cluster feeding and fussiness and probably a bunch of gas from cluster feeding and the ensuing larger milk supply that'd then come from that. If that's what this is, it should die down in a week or so...

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I have decided to accept that Roslyn is "high needs" and to stop listening/expecting her to be like they say babies should be by now.
I am not going to expect her to:
transition to her room/crib;
to nurse less than 1X/hr;
to sleep alone at night or stationary during naps;
to take a bottle;
to be content by herself in/with any baby chairs, mats, gadgets/toys
to be content with anyone but me except during her short happy playful times when DH can play with her

this makes me feel better but I did get a 2.5 hour and a 1.5 hour stretch of sleep last night with her back in the adult bed with me. I did not expect her to accept her co-sleeper, or to go to her hammock. I held her on the boppy as she slept and custer-fed and I sat semi-reclined in bed til 4:30 AM. then I lay down with her and we slept, feeding every 1.5-2.5 hours til 10AM.

I wonder if mothering.com has a High Needs support forum. I think we all fit the bill...
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Okay, seriously? Everybody's rolling? Myabe I'm holding DD too much? She is so not rolling over. I know it is a waste of time to compare babies...but c'mon, it's really hard not to!
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I have decided to accept that Roslyn is "high needs"

I wonder if mothering.com has a High Needs support forum. I think we all fit the bill...
There is a thread on Life with a Babe about a High Needs Tribe. I have decided to accept the same thing. It's hard, but I have to try to stop thinking that my baby is ever going to be easy. I think for me, it's all about adapting.

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Okay, seriously? Everybody's rolling? Myabe I'm holding DD too much? She is so not rolling over. I know it is a waste of time to compare babies...but c'mon, it's really hard not to!
My DS isn't rolling either. He rarely has the chance, though since he only wants to be held and played with. I guess I have to try to get him laying down more. It is hard not to compare!

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Please, please do not worry about rolling. My son rolled belly to back really early on and expressed no interest in it again until 8 months. Back to belly? 10 months was the first time he EVER did it. I was SO freaked out and about nothing because he is a running jumping chatterbox at age 3.

I could care less about rolling with Clementine. They didn't even ask me about it at her 4 month checkup.
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nak

okay, thanks pandme. that does make me feel better.
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ugh. i was awake again last night til 4:30AM with baby kicking and thrashing keeping me up, til DH put her in the hammock. cannot handle this!
HOW do I get her to go to bed at night?
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Mine isn't rolling and I don't really care, they didn't ask me at his 4month either.
I know he is capable of rolling because he rolls on to his side. I don't think that rolling is really a must meet milestone or anything. As long as you know they are capable and don't have any muscle issues.

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Mine's not rolling although early on, like at two weeks or less, she rolled from back to belly. She's really not high needs when I compare her to the way ds was -- she's just a baby. He would cry if I laid him down, only napped in my arms or in a baby carrier (and then only if I was moving along steadily), he woke at night frequently (though usually easliy nursed back to sleep). Compared to him, dd is easy, although she does get fussy when tired or hungry or wet. She's alseep right now without me, and is fine. Every baby is unique and anyone who expects all babies to be the same isn't paying attention.

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Can I join the high needs baby club??? I am so so so tired. Ds is waking up constantly at night.. still taking 20 min naps, ahhhh!
He is much happier and less fussy during the day But nightime is rough rough rough. I have no energy.
Not to mention I can't seem to leave ds with anyone... I leave him with daddy while I go to the gym for 30 min ( he is just fed and as well rested as he gets with those 20 min naps) and I come home to a daddy with a headache and a crying babe... and daddy is great with him!
Same thing happened today.. we left 2 kids with the grandparents for an hour so we could run to Target. Ds woke up at 1125... we got home at 1140 and he was still crying!!! He is so high needs day and night that I feel like I need a break every now and then... and then I feel guilty when I do because he is just not happy!!!
I love that he needs me so much but phew... if I dont even get a break at night I wish I could take an hour every now and then and not have to worry about him crying!!!! I know this is just a short phase but I so so frustrated with him sometimes and I dont remember ever feeling that way with my first.... of course she was an amazing sleeper and easy to get to sleep too.
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ohh and Israel isn't rolling over much either. He has done it a few times but can't/doesnt do it consistantly....

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Harrison didn't want to roll sequentially, crawl or do much of anything until 9.5-10 months. He was a great sitter though, excellent balance. But it made me so stressed out I called EI on my own (my ped said he was fine). And she was right. EI was so nice but there was nothing at all wrong with him. So I learned then and there to stop paying attention to what all the other babies were doing.
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I can't believe this was my last post!
Well, it's good to know I'm not alone I guess. I hope we can all get some sleep and get our babies on healthy sleep schedules.
I'm so tired I can't form sentences. Well, really, my last post?
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Ha! Amen to that! Good luck to everyone!
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