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#121 of 147 Old 12-03-2009, 10:20 PM
 
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Don't worry, ladies! Drink your caffinated drinks. I was just noticing that after two diet sodas this morning, I was shaky...that's the only reason I said "no caffiene". Drink away!

I am doing much better tonight.

It's amazing that after pushing my biggest, mildly dystocia baby out I have had barely any pain, no swelling, no tearing, etc....

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Youngfrankenstein - that's awesome! (The feeling fine, not the soda jitters! )

My bleeding had stopped, and then whadya know today it came back. Red, too. All i did was go to see a lactation consultant and then to get some lunch with my mom and sister and then tidy house and cook dinner. Give me a break here.

I'm getting headaches every single evening. i don't know what that's about, but it is annoying as all get out.

Also, when my babe gets something resembling colicky, I put her in the sling and walk around. This helps when offering the breast doesn't help. My little girl loves being worn in the sling!

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Does anyone have experience with colic?

Ds2 is so laid back for most of the day and through out the night...but he has a nightly bout of crying that lasts for at least an hour where it's almost impossible to console him. He acts like he wants the breast but latches and then screams and then goes back to rooting...it seems like he just wants to be comforted but nothing works. I've resorted to gas drops and gripe water but they only seem to help a little.

Other than this nightly activity, he is so content. He sleeps well, nurses well and rarely cries during the day.

Does this sound like colic?
We have the same EXACT issue. I don't know if it's 'colic' but it's frustrating none-the-less! It won't last forever, it won't last forever, it won't last forever....

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The pulling away/colicky stuff could be silent reflux--? Or just un-burp-able gas, or even a reaction to something that you ate or are eating, perhaps. I have resorted to a paci a few times when Nik would NOt calm down and nothing I did would help. I have those Hyland's homeopathic colic tabs, and those seem to help sometimes too.

YAY YoungFrankenstein, congrats! I missed mention that you had your baby!

Bleeding, yea it's annoying--goes away but then comes back if I have to get anything done that requires effort At least it's only a teeny bit compared to all my anemic-postpartums!

Gah, babe's up again....thought I was gonna get some schoolwork done

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Does anyone have experience with colic?

Ds2 is so laid back for most of the day and through out the night...but he has a nightly bout of crying that lasts for at least an hour where it's almost impossible to console him.
My DD doesn't scream at night, but she will have a period where she will be fussy, but does not want to nurse for too long. What I figured out is that she wants to "play." I sit up (in bed) with her, put her on my legs, help her stand up, talk to her, etc. and then she is very content. This lasts a looong time, though (over an hour). When she is done, then I can nurse her and she'll go back to sleep.

IME, it's normal for a newborn to have their "awake" period at night since that's how it was for him/her for the last 9 months . . .but (yawn) I'M so tired!

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I'm not sure I can do this! DD1 only sleeps at night, DD2 only sleeps during the day, and they are both fully convinced that it is their duty to make sure I am awake if they are. Throw into the mix that I need substantially more sleep than most people, and I am already losing my mind.

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C-Momma, that sounds pretty normal to me. In fact, in working as a PP doula I most often work with families during the period of time I call the "witching hour" (or hours, really) Almost all babies have a cluster feed/fussy period in the evening. I've found that it's most often between the hours of 4 pm and 10 pm but it all depends. It's almost always during or right around dinner time, blah. It's true here, too... my baby has a fussy period in the evenings, at around 7-8 pm he wants nothing but for me to lay and bed and nurse him. I've resorted to going to bed pretty darn early. Thankfully DH is used to putting the other two to bed.

As far as colic. *shudder* My second DS was the very definition. I don't even want to think about that time. His "witching hour" was everything except the mornings, when he'd actually sleep. Looking back I think his was a GI issue of some sort, we never pursued talking to the Dr about reflux as I wasn't interested in medications. We sort of just did trial and error and survived, but it was awful. One thing that did help for a small amount of time for us was chiropractic. I think it's good to try for all "fussy" babies.

Dr Sears has a book called "The Fussy Baby book" that I think is a really good read-- even if just to find things to help calm your babe.

Another thought-- could you have overactive letdown? There's some good info on Kellymom that might help.

As for us... yesterday was a really good day. I got a pretty decent amount of sleep on Wed night, the baby took a good nap in the morning so I was able and motivated to get quite a bit done. Then got all three to take a nap at the same time, and my husband got home early. A friend brought dinner. Today is a completely 180... very little sleep between the baby and my oldest, the bus was late picking up my oldest one, baby has been fussy, and my two year old is bored out of his mind. It's 8 am, and I'm already just wanting this day to be done.
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Vit D- I take 6,000 IU of D3 per day. My levels are getting there... slowly rising. They were at 47 when I was 38 weeks. An "ideal" level is supposed to be between 50-80, with level between 80-100 being ideal for nursing mothers.
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I'm not sure I can do this! DD1 only sleeps at night, DD2 only sleeps during the day, and they are both fully convinced that it is their duty to make sure I am awake if they are. Throw into the mix that I need substantially more sleep than most people, and I am already losing my mind.


Mama, you need to call in some reinforcements. When my son was a babe and wouldn't sleep and I felt myself slipping to the brink of insanity because of sleep deprivation, I had someone come over and amuse him for a couple of hours while I tried to catch up on some sleep. Otherwise I would have had some serious issues. Even an hour or two nap can make the world of difference. Try to find a family member or friend who can come over and play with dd1 while you catch a nap with dd2. I know sometimes it is hard to ask for help and sometimes it is easy to think there is no one to help, but that's what friends and family are for. I'd come over if I were nearby.

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I'm having a good day. I've decided to go back into my own bed tonight. I've been sleeping downstairs on the "birth bed" (futon) and it's too hard for me. I always watch DVDs at night while I'm up nursing so I'll take my TV up to the nursery and get dh to put the chair up there. I hope things go well.

We had out first outting today. We went to see the ped. Everything is perfect. I know I haven't posted my birth story yet, things went great, I just don't have the gumption to do the story justice yet.

But the baby had a bit of an upper arm strain with her dystocia so she doesn't lift the arm up but the doc says it will heal up and didn't make us go through x-rays and stuff. I love my ped!

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So...Ds1 is having an EXTREMELY difficult time adjusting to life with the baby and it's manifesting in a total, complete disruption of any sleep. I'm exhausted. My 3 year old sleeps less (at night) than the newborn.

Ds2 started his nightly bout of inconsolable wailing after Ds1 was asleep in bed and the commotion woke him. I coaxed him to lay with on the couch (where I was nursing, bouncing, rocking, attempting to soothe, entertain and console ds2) and he fell back asleep. Dh carried him to bed and we joined them after an hour or so. Ds1 writhed, kicked, whined and woke off and on for hours and when I woke at 3 to change ds2's poopy diaper and nurse him ds1 woke up as well. He stayed awake from 3-5:45 screaming and flailing about because I couldn't lay down with him (Ds2 was nursing and didn't want to be held by dh)...

Poor dh tried SO hard to help out but neither boy accepted his attempts. So he just sat up and talked calmly to ds1 who continued to scream.

PLEASE tell me this will settle down?! It's been two weeks. I know this a lot for his 3 yr old self to process and I am reminding myself of that all day and night.

I feel guilty for throwing him out of whack and for being SO frustrated by his behavior (which understandably reflects the major change to his life).

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i went to the hospital last night. at nearly 1 month postpartum my bleeding went from nearly gone to heavy hand size clotting in large quantity and excessive bright red bleeding. i had read that bright red blood this far along was not good, and that hemorrhaging can occur anywhere before 6wks PP? - they took my blood and requested a urine sample. my blood levels appeared to be fine but i was really shocked, because i was saturating a pad every 20 minutes if not less, horribly. they said they could give me a pill to stop the bleeding but it could do more bad than good, so instead they gave me 800mlg ibuprofen.

here's the crazy part though; they think it's my PERIOD. this whole time i was thinking i would be one of the gals to go a really long time without having one, esp. still i also breastfeed and pump/express quite often. they advised me to pretty much do nothing but lay down, and if it got worse or continued in the next couple of days to merely contact my OB about it.

to say the least i thought i was going to bleed to death.

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PLEASE tell me this will settle down?! It's been two weeks. I know this a lot for his 3 yr old self to process and I am reminding myself of that all day and night.


YES, it will settle down! But only if you stop having children . . .they get so much easier when they get older. But then again, only for awhile. As people with older children tell me, little children = little problems. So true.

My 2 yo is having the hardest time adjusting, but some days are better than others. While I don't mind sleeping with her or my 4 yo, there isn't room for both, and I find it (generally) harder to keep everyone sleeping when both the newborn and 2 or 4 yo wake. The 2 and 4 yo sleep in the same bed, so when one wakes, DH sleeps in another room with that one, and we hope the other one will sleep through the night. If she doesn't, then I let that child sleep with me as well. It is MUCH easier when just I sleep with the newborn, with no one else (not even DH) in bed.

Do you have another bed where DH could sleep with the 3 yo? That is what I would suggest. I am guessing your 3 yo won't accept him right away since it's a new thing, but he will with time.

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here's the crazy part though; they think it's my PERIOD.
I have gotten what seems like a period, too (though nowhere near the kind of bleeding you describe) and think, DARN, I was hoping for at least a year off! But, it has always been a one-time thing, and does not return for at least a year. Hopefully this will be true for you!

I hope you get some rest-- whatever it was sounds draining.

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Has anyone else thought about supplementing with Vit D? I didn't with ds1 because he was born in the summer and we spent a lot of time outside...however, I feel sure I have a deficiency and inadequate stores. I am thinking about this http://www.evitamins.com/product.asp?pid=14069

Maybe it's silly, but the lack of vit D makes me nervous with the gobs of sick floating around.
I take Vit D as well. I highly recommend taking it in these winter months!

As far as colic goes, my first son had this too and I realized that I was overfeeding him. This might not be your case, but I was offering the breasts EVERY time he cried instead of trying to interpret his cries and he was getting too much food and spitting up and then being really gassy because of it...

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I miss going to the gym! I hope my midwife can approve me at my 2-week appointment for light exercise.. or is that too early?
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I'm itching to get some exercise, too, but my midwife told me to wait a week after my bleeding has stopped compltly, like not even a little tiny speck, and then to watch carefully if it returns. At a few days shy of four weeks postpartum, i still have a tiny bit of bleeding.

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We're tempted to DTD but there are some issues there- my stiches are still there from my 3 tears. How long do the self-dissolving ones take to dissolve? It's been 3 1/2 weeks, shouldn't they be gone by now?
It depends...I had 5 stitches last time and 4 of them dissolved/fell out but the last one I had to have the OB snip at my 6w pp visit. We had DTD a couple days before that and it was excruciating with that stupid stitch in there. So I dont' knwo how long they are supposed to take, but I wouldnt' DTD until you're sure they are gone.


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Last time I got my regular jeans on by about 2 or 2.5wks pp. Um, well, I ws 3w yesterday and I squeezed into them (had to lay on the bed to zip them up) but I've got muffin top I didn't have that last time. It's very frustrating. I just feel fat. I'm recovering well in all other aspects--no PPD, baby sleeps pretty well (last one didn't so I've had my turn!), no tearing/stitches so we have resumed a little DTD which takes a lot of strain/stress out of the marriage (DH doesn't cope well with the 6ww...) I guess if feeling fat is my worst problem I don't have much to complain about. Last time I was skinny with a million issues, so this time I can handle fat with no other issues.


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Not specifically...last time I had a rubella shot right after the birth (long story, wouldn't do it again, but oh well what's done is done). anyway, because of that we wanted to make sure I didn't get pg for at least 12m...as it was, we stopped preventing around 9m, and I didn't resume menstruation until 20 m and got pg at 25m. So the kids are 33m apart, and we've concluded that we'll just take them as they come, so we're not doing any BC, nor do we plan to at least at this point. I don't anticipate gettign pregnant for a couple of years, just because of how things went last time, but we're not doing anything to specifically encourage/prevent it either. We figure to have a couple more kids and we'll take them when they come.

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Does anyone have experience with colic?

Ds2 is so laid back for most of the day and through out the night...but he has a nightly bout of crying that lasts for at least an hour where it's almost impossible to console him. He acts like he wants the breast but latches and then screams and then goes back to rooting...it seems like he just wants to be comforted but nothing works. I've resorted to gas drops and gripe water but they only seem to help a little.

Other than this nightly activity, he is so content. He sleeps well, nurses well and rarely cries during the day.

Does this sound like colic?
This sounds just like my last baby (and this one a bit) and gripe water has been a lifesaver for us...both my boys would start burping or tooting within a couple of minutes usually. I have an overactive letdown though so I knew that was a likely culprit. Also, I put the kiddo in the sling/wrap, give them some gripe water, and then walk...if you have a birth ball you can sit on that and gently bounce and that seems to help. Rocking chairs can too I suppose, but i've never had one


Re: vitamin D--I am using it a little, but that's cuz I live in Alaska...

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Poor dh tried SO hard to help out but neither boy accepted his attempts. So he just sat up and talked calmly to ds1 who continued to scream.

PLEASE tell me this will settle down?! It's been two weeks. I know this a lot for his 3 yr old self to process and I am reminding myself of that all day and night.
Sounds like here--kids won't take DH, but I'm not always available...yeah, it gets better. I have been working on having little pep talks with my almost-3-yo during the day (when he's awake and not distressed) about how sometimes mommy has to care for the baby and it's ok to have daddy. thus far he always says "no, I need mommy" bu tI'm hoping that if we discuss this enough it may get through his head.

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I'm a little nervous as it approached bedtime. DH was sweet and helped me move my tv upstairs so I have everything I need in the nursery for nighttime nursing. I am looking forward to sleeping in my own bed but I'm worried babe will be up a lot and also worried she will leave me engourged! I need to chill out and relax. I am hoping that no matter what, my own bed will give me more restful sleep.

Anyone able to not dream about babies, birth and pregnancy?

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It depends...I had 5 stitches last time and 4 of them dissolved/fell out but the last one I had to have the OB snip at my 6w pp visit. We had DTD a couple days before that and it was excruciating with that stupid stitch in there. So I dont' knwo how long they are supposed to take, but I wouldnt' DTD until you're sure they are gone.
Oh my! I was thinking they'll have to be snipped- my MW said she'd do it at my 6 wk PP visit, but that just stinks that they're not dissolving!

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[QUOTE=Mizelenius;14757950]I have gotten what seems like a period, too (though nowhere near the kind of bleeding you describe) and think, DARN, I was hoping for at least a year off! But, it has always been a one-time thing, and does not return for at least a year. Hopefully this will be true for you!
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I had a client that this happened to and she went to the ER for heavy bleeding at 8 weeks PP and they didn't find anything wrong. Midwife thought it could be AF but it wasn;t. It stopped a few days later and her period has not returned. *shrug*

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I am feeling seriously burned out at the moment.

Brenan is up every 1.5-2 hours at night, every night, nursing like a fiend. We are still battling the yeasty beasties. Gentian violet seems to have helped his mouth, but now his bum is overrun with it. He is a very unhappy baby most of the time, I think due to the yeast. He sleeps for 4 hours straight sometimes during the day, and I would love to nap when he does so, but with the other kids it's impossible.

My special need four year old is in the process of yet ANOTHER med change and has been just impossible to deal with lately (not just since B's birth). He is driving everyone in the house crazy. The other night he and my nine year old son got into a huge brawl while I was busy changing a diaper and consoling a screaming baby...pictures were knocked off the wall in the next room and they both had scrapes, bruises and there was even a bloody nose. I don't know what to do about the two of them, I would love if they didn't have to share a room, but this house is so tiny there is seriously no where else to put anyone.

I thought I had one last check coming from work, and that one check was going to help see us through my maternity leave, but I figured it out all wrong and I don't have a check coming at all. So now I'm trying to not panic about how everything is going to get paid for the next 10 weeks.

We had a blizzard here yesterday, so of course it's freezing cold and tons more snow. My dad tries to shovel when he can, but mostly it's been my 9 year old trying to shovel it all alone after school and he's a little guy and it just kicks his butt so I go out and finish and it kinda freaks me out because every time I do I start gushy bleeding all over again (sorry tmi) .

My incision still hurts, especially on the right it is such severe sharp pain that I have wondered on occasion if they accidently left something in there. I'm sure not, but it is that sharp.

I'm really sick of nursing, which is normal for me at this point, it will get better and I will be glad I persisted in a few months. I'm already kinda tired of cloth diapering, although if the darn yeast issue would clear up I might feel better about the whole thing. Tired of trying to go about life as usual with Brenan in the sling (how DO you lean over to bathe your older kids with a baby on your front or reach all the way into the bottom of the washer to retrieve those baby socks?) Already sick of being broke, sick of being stressed, and sick to death of the freezing cold and snow.

I am tired, sore, lonely as hell and really, really miss my mom.

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Sleepyheaded_mama, I'm so sorry it's so hard for you. You've had a really rough time of it this whole time.

I am doing better. I LOVE being a second-time mom and being able to tell Dr. Sears to stuff it up his a$$ (even if only in my dreams) and I also love having BOTH prefolds and fitteds to diaper with. Gotta love the 21st century.

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and being able to tell Dr. Sears to stuff it up his a$$
Which Dr. Sears??

I have laid my precious baby down twice in his crib today, so I could run circles around this place trying to make it look habitable again. Although, even with the baby monitor I fret constantly that my poor little one is going to be snatched by the evil SIDS faeries when I'm not looking. I might have a bit of an anxiety problem there... . Nonetheless, I miraculously got the 4 year old to take a nap! God must have seen that I need a break, lol. So the living room looks like a living room, at least. And there is a load in the laundry that is NOT diapers for a change. So there's that. I should take a shower...that might help my blahs.

I think I'll survive this, it's just those bleak, black moments that I feel like I've been swallowed whole and will never get out.

Interestingly, Brenan's donor or whatever you want to call him, ex-DP, whatever, emailed me from the UK when he found out (not thru me) that Brenan was born and told me he never stopped loving me and he wants "us" back. I don't think I was as receptive as he thought I would be, so I haven't heard from him since, but seriously - NOW you want me back?? Why?? I mean he's gotta expect there's going to be some tough questions he's going to have to answer, and I guess he either doesn't have answers, doesn't want to answer, or has changed his mind again. And it's been since that interaction that I've been feeling really bereft and alone. Jack@ss.

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I got both kids to nap at the same time twice now. It's amazing.

My first child was colicky, never napped more than 20 mins until he was 7 months old, woke up every 45 mins at night... I was so nervous about having another newborn like him. Zion is on a loose schedule, naps 1-2 hours at a time, wakes up twice a night to eat, nurses efficiently, and though spits up a lot, rarely cries. So blessed.

I think I'm going to the gym this week. I'm 2.5 weeks postpartum and though still bleeding, I miss exercising.

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Just joining the thread.

SleepyHeaded_mama. Oh, I wish I could wave a magic wand and make it all better for you! Once that thrush goes away and you get some sleep, things are going to be much better for you, I have a feeling.

My tiny baby girl has thrush in her mouth, though it has not been painful to me.

We are starting some preventive stuff this week, and I am hoping her case stays mild and clears up soon without a lot of medication/etc (We went through this with Ds#2 when he was a baby, too) crossing fingers!

As for me: I think my post baby high is finally wearing off. I am getting enough sleep, thankfully, but my mood is finally settling dooooowwnnn a bit. I have been taking some herbs (motherwort, valerian root, chamomile, passionflower), which have helped to balance the hormones and relieve the "down" feelings, I believe. I feel very fortunate that my bleeding is so low and that I am physically doing well, although frustrated that hardly any clothing fits--just sweat pants as this is the largest I have ever been at 175 lbs, and I am realizing I need a haircut! (I feel a January mini-makeover coming ; maybe a pair of pants and a few shirts and a trim for my hair)

I am lonely, too, it comes and goes. The hard part is when I do see people, it's depressing. Saw the pediatrician, had "the talk" (asked if she would still see us since we don't vax the kids); had a lukewarm response from her, which I am *trying* to be happy about (better than getting yelled at, right?), but just feeling like life isn't fair in that regard, my kids should have access to good quality, caring medical professionals when we need them, not get ditched by them the instant my kids have an illness *simply* b/c of our vaccine choices. Considering just forgetting the whole conventional medicine thing and going to chiros instead. sigh!

Then, the other chance to see ppl was helping a friend, which I felt good doing, but is not nurturing to me emotionally at this time; she is in the process of getting a divorce and I was able to watch her kids this week for a few hours while she met with a lawyer. I need a friend to look out for me!

I feel fortunate that my DH still has time off, but he is getting burned out taking care of the kids and house and not getting to do "fun" stuff like he wants (has to keep fixing things that are broken, which is good for our household; he didn't notice them when he was working his usual schedule) Although we enjoy watching shows and movies together while the baby sleeps, I feel like I need something else-- Maybe I'll take a walk up the street while the sun is shining with baby in the sling.

Trying to enjoy these moments which slip by so quickly, smelling her newborn smell, her petal-soft skin, her tiny cries and grunts and whimpers, the way her eyes open so wide as she nurses, all those cute things I'll miss when she is a few months old.

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I feel fortunate that my DH still has time off, but he is getting burned out taking care of the kids and house and not getting to do "fun" stuff like he wants (has to keep fixing things that are broken, which is good for our household; he didn't notice them when he was working his usual schedule) Although we enjoy watching shows and movies together while the baby sleeps, I feel like I need something else-- Maybe I'll take a walk up the street while the sun is shining with baby in the sling.

Trying to enjoy these moments which slip by so quickly, smelling her newborn smell, her petal-soft skin, her tiny cries and grunts and whimpers, the way her eyes open so wide as she nurses, all those cute things I'll miss when she is a few months old.
I totally get this. DH hasn't been off work but I think he feels very discouraged when I feel down.

I really don't want this time to fly by but I want to get iver the "hump" of the newborn problems: breastfeeding, bleeding, fatigue, etc.

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Which Dr. Sears??
The one who wrote The Baby Book, which I read until it literally fell to pieces, then threw in the trash and didn't replace.

I'm glad things are looking up for you. Sounds like XP is even worse than Dr. Sears, ha.

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