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Hi guys. I have a long and wonderful birth story mostly written. But that will have to wait.

Right now I'm typing on my phone from the NICU.

Sprout did great after the birth. However, the midwives left instructions for doing vitals every 4 hours after the birth. At our first check, at 6:30pm, Sprout was breathing very fast. His rate should have been below 60, but it was over 100. The midwife came by and also found it elevated. She recommended we have him checked.

So we went to the local childrens hospital. They did a chest x-ray and saw fluid in his lungs. Around midnight, we were transferred to a transitional nursery for monitoring. It was terrible. DH and I sat in office chairs next to the monitors so we could hold him all night. The docs were passing him around, and no one would take control of his care. My 8-stitch tear was in such pain.

They finally found us a spare room, and I slept for an hour around 2:30am -- my first sleep since waking up in labor at 5:30am the morning before. But then he needed to nurse.

DH went home for 2 hours of sleep while I stayed in the chair until around 9am. Sprout's resp rate was still slightly high, and they pushed for antibiotics. Exhausted and confused, we finally agreed.

Problem was, they didn't know where to put him. He wasn't really sick enough for NICU, but I wasn't leaving him. NICU was the only place that had some room for someone to stay with him.

The antibiotics and blood cultures were started Thursday afternoon. They require a 48 hour stay. I have a chair, Murphy bed, and permission from the doc to do as much of his care as possible.

The stay is terrible. The rules are ridiculous. They have no consessions for exclusively breastfed babies. They act all embarassed and pull the curtain when we nurse. I have to leave him for an hour, twice a day for shift change. I can't eat in the pod -- I have to go out to the waiting room, then do a 3 minute hand wash to get back in.

I have slept 2 hours in the last 39, since I woke up in labor.

There's more, but I don't have the energy. I need all the support I can get from a community who knows the right way to treat babies and moms.

Jen, former sys admin and current geek , wife to DH , SAHM and Montessori homeschool teacher to DD "Nugget" (05/07) and new arrival DS "Sprout" (03/31/10)
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Jen, that's terrible!!! I am so sorry this is happening. I will keep y'all in my prayers.


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that sounds horrible.

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The stay is terrible. The rules are ridiculous. They have no consessions for exclusively breastfed babies. They act all embarassed and pull the curtain when we nurse. I have to leave him for an hour, twice a day for shift change. I can't eat in the pod -- I have to go out to the waiting room, then do a 3 minute hand wash to get back in.
I'm so sorry!
This sounds exactly like afte my HB with my second who had a slight elevated temp.....the NICU people didn't know what to do with a full term baby that had NOTHING wrong with him but a little dehydration. I also had some bad dealings with threats of CPS because we wanted to refuse MOST of the test/treatments as uneeded. I am glad you seem to be getting at least respectful care. The rules ARE riduculous I agree, can't there be a middle ground between infants and the type of care they require? I live in a very hostlie homebirth area too so I am sure that had something to do with it.

I understand how awful that hopspital stay after birth can be when dealing with manipulative hospital staff and mindless universal protocal that has no basis in reality. Did they tell you how long you have to stay untill the antibiotics are done, or untill a culture is determined? Get a timeline from them! Sprout sound like he will be OK, can you get an infant bassisnet so he can sleep in your room with you like the mom's in maternity? Is anyone bringing you good food and hugs?
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jen, do you need anything? please let me know if there is anything i can do for you guys since i am local.. i'd love to help really.

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((hugs)) mama!!!

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I'm sorry to hear what a rough time you and Sprout have had. You can feel the exhaustion, frustration, and worry in your post. I hope things continue to improve and you're all able to be home together soon.
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Just wanting to offer prayers and a

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Oh wow, how terrifying! I can't believe you're going through that. I hope things improve. Gosh...

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I'm so sorry you're having to deal with such weird staff/rules on top of everything else.

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Hugs and kind thoughts for you and little sprout.
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How terrible for you guys, esp after such a wonderful birth

Love that they, who clean up other people's poop, are embarrassed by breastfeeding.

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So sorry, lots of support and good thoughts coming your way!
I know that you will both make it through, and soon... and you will be glad you followed your intuition and brought him in and stayed with him, even though it sounds just terrible for now.
You must be so exhausted and uncomfortable. Just keep closing your eyes for as many rests as you can, take lots of deep breaths, try to mentally take you and your Sprout as far away from the suckiness of the situation as you can. F them and their weirdness about breastfeeding (argh!) and just keep repeating "we will be home soon, we will be home soon."
And how good that will feel!!

Can your midwives come in for any support, even a backrub or to lend an ear?
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I hope he improves ASAP so you can go home and enjoy your babymoon.

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Jen, I am so sorry. I hope you and sprout are home safely soon.

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So very sorry for what you, dh & little Sprout are going through. My daycare mom is a NICU nurse here in MN and what you've described sounds ridiculous. She would encourage you, as much as you can, to continue advocating the best care for your baby no matter how embarrassed their untrained staff is. Your baby comes first, their feelings don't. (((hugs)))

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Oh Jen, how scary! Healing prayers coming your way.

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So sorry you are dealing with this! It sounds terrible. I'm sure your sweet baby will be fine though and hopefully you'll be home again soon and can put this behind you and focus on how wonderful the birth was. Thinking of you lots!

It sounds like maybe once you're out of there and more rested and can focus better, you should write a letter or lodge a complaint about your experience. It's totally ridiculous that they don't know how to deal with a breastfed newborn and mama!

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Contact the patient ombudsman or patient rights person at the hospital.

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Oh, mama! This will all be over soon and you can sleep and nurse and love it up with your little one. What you are doing to stay close and breast feed is so important and your little sprout will be better for it forever!
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Thank you so much, everyone. Reading each supportive reply boosts my spirits and determination to stay and give everyone here a demonstration of how a mom can exclusively breastfeed in the NICU, maybe make things even the slightest bit easier for the next mom who comes along.

I'm feeling more like a newborn's mom and less like a puddle of a human being. Sprout is a great nurser, which is a huge weight off my shoulders and has given them no room to even suggest supplementation (although pumping has come up a time or two). I get an hour or so of sleep between nursings (or blood draws), but it's just typical newborn. I've had some understanding nurses who put off vitals and exams until we've both woken and he's nursed.

So now it's nurse, nap, antibiotics, and wait. Blood culture results should be back tomorrow afternoon. Hopefully, they'll be negative, his breathing rate will be normal, and we can split.

Thank you all again for being so supportive!

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request a care meeting if you know he'll be there for a little awhile(from a mom who just got out of 42 days in the NICU)

I was so lucky J had his own room...I am so sorry you're going through this

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You are doing an AWESOME job being there the whole time even though I'm sure you are exhausted and it can't be easy for you immediately pp....I hope his cultures come back perfect and you guys can be out of there really soon. s

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I can't imagine how difficult this must be for you to go through, but it sounds like you are handling things amazingly well. I'll keep you and sprout in my thoughts and hope for a speedy discharge of a healthy baby!

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Sprout is a great nurser, which is a huge weight off my shoulders and has given them no room to even suggest supplementation (although pumping has come up a time or two).
This is mind boggling. I assume they want you to pump for their convenience. I'm so glad you're feeling more positive about the situation, though. God willing, you'll be home very soon.

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Jen, I just wanted to offer you a and tell you it sounds like you're doing everything right and I am sure you are making a huge difference in Sprout's start on life. Best wishes that you guys will be out of there soon!

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I hope everything is OK and you guys get to come home soon!

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The stay is terrible. The rules are ridiculous. They have no consessions for exclusively breastfed babies. They act all embarassed and pull the curtain when we nurse. I have to leave him for an hour, twice a day for shift change. I can't eat in the pod -- I have to go out to the waiting room, then do a 3 minute hand wash to get back in.
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You are in my thoughts and prayers; sorry you are going through such a rough time!

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Jen. I'm sorry you're going through this. It's so absurd that they're having such a fit about nursing. GRRR. Thinking of you both and hope that you get to go home soon.

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