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May as well get this going, as we're about to have babies popping up all over the place here.

How are the other PP moms doing so far?

We just got home from the hospital this morning, so right now just settling in and chilling out. Ozzy is snoozing on my chest right now-- he doesn't seem to want to be put down like ever, haha. My milk is coming in so we've switched over to the cloth diapers, no more meconium, yay.

Feeling pretty great.

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Wow, Kelly...I'm so impressed you're home with a newborn, a toddler, and you've gotten this thread going! Nice work, mama!

We're on day 6 of Ellie's life here (kind of blows me away to talk about her age in days!), day 4 at home. She *refuses* to lay on her back at night; she starts kicking and screaming as soon as we put her down, so daddy and I are alternating holding her and trying to get some sleep. So far swaddling her hasn't helped, but we're going to keep on trying, or else go delusional from lack of sleep...

We've been cloth diapering since the meconium passed--so far, so good. DH has managed to end up with most of the poop diapers...not sure how that's happened, but oh well!

Our pug is also adjusting pretty well. He gets really upset when she cries and starts to bark, which just adds to the general chaos, but we hope he'll eventually realize that she's ok and we won't let her cry forever...

Oh, and holy postpartum hormones, Batman! Random moments of crying--either from happiness, tiredness, or feeling overwhelmed.

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Wow, Kelly...I'm so impressed you're home with a newborn, a toddler, and you've gotten this thread going! Nice work, mama!
I'm all about the nursing at keyboard, haha... and my husband is home until Tuesday so he's been great taking care of the toddler and giving her lots of extra attention.

Ozzy doesn't like laying down by himself, either, but we had a GREAT first night home last night... Em slept beside her daddy in the bedroom, and Ozzy and I slept on the twin-sized mattress (technically Em's bed) in the kids room. It was really really good-- he woke up every two hours or so to nurse, we're already doing great with the side-lying nursing, and then he would go right back to sleep. I feel ridiculously well-rested.

Had to go to the pediatrician today because he's a touch jaundiced. Got the bilirubin checked this morning and hopefully it's going down. My milk is DEFINITELY in (oh my god I'm so engorged my boobs are the size of watermelons), and he is nursing like it's going out of style, so that should help.


Hope all the other new moms doing great...

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This is the least natural raising of any child I have had (disposable diapers, and formula for sanity)I had a horrible battle with ppd... we are 20pp now that is the big wow for me right now! My little girl that wasn't suppose to be here til tomorrow is here and wonderful... we are batteling a mucus discharge from her belly button(I think its infected so we are going to the er when dh gets home) She is sooo alert and still tiny imo... I have an 11 month old who will be 1 the 23rd so we are late planning a birthday party ... I feel just awful about it! I am tired all the time I am the only one up with her at night... but I am taken care of in every other way when dh is home... it is still overwhealming. I can't sleep at night even when Rory is sleeping... but this to shall pass.

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This is the least natural raising of any child I have had (disposable diapers, and formula for sanity)I had a horrible battle with ppd... we are 20pp now that is the big wow for me right now! My little girl that wasn't suppose to be here til tomorrow is here and wonderful... we are batteling a mucus discharge from her belly button(I think its infected so we are going to the er when dh gets home) She is sooo alert and still tiny imo... I have an 11 month old who will be 1 the 23rd so we are late planning a birthday party ... I feel just awful about it! I am tired all the time I am the only one up with her at night... but I am taken care of in every other way when dh is home... it is still overwhealming. I can't sleep at night even when Rory is sleeping... but this to shall pass.

Congrats to everyone here on there new bundles... This is a huge emotional roller coaster!
*hugs* You gotta do whatever works, that's the important thing... sorry to hear about your ppd, hope you'll be feeling a lot better soon.

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Wow, I can't believe I actually get to post here in this thread, and NAK at that!

Ella is 6 days old and I'm glad to hear I'm not the only super emotional hormonal mum and that it's not weird that Ella doesn't like to be put down at night. I'm loving it all, and so so happy! Ella makes the cutesy little facial expressions

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Rory is picky.. sometimes I can put her down sometimes I can't.... I think its gas... IDK she is super easy except from 1am to 7 am lol... that is typically when I like to sleep. Then I have ds2 waking up at 3 for a feeding also.

I have been medicated for ppd since october last year( after ds2 was born)... I feel a lot better than I did last year but still kinda overwhealmed... I am going to head back over to the ppd thread lol... anywho... congrats again mommas and this is truely awesome to have people to compare our struggles to that are exactly where we are
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Just caught a pee and poop in the potty for the first time. That was so cool!

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I'm still having pain from a dura leak from a bad epidural experience. I'm 9 days pp. My 7 year old son woke up sick this morning and I'm stressed out trying to keep his germs contained and away from baby. My sweet baby girl wants to be in arms at all times. Anyone have suggestions for a good/easy baby sling? Once my back is better, I really wanna have a handy sling and my current ones aren't working very well for newborn stage.

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s for sarahmatlock and pacifica.

Kelly--we had an issue with Ellie's bilirubin also--she was discharged from the hospital with it at 15.1, which was borderline for her needing phototherapy, but when we went to the ped. on Monday, he thought her appearance indicated it was going down (don't get me started on him. Yuck. Not the one in the practice we interviewed, but she wasn't around and we had to go in on Monday.). Anyway, her color is now good and pink, and the whites of her eyes are now pretty much completely white.

Big victory today--Ellie took 2 one-hour naps all on her own! Each one followed a really good feeding, so I'm hoping that tonight we can a nice big feeding before bedtime, so mommy and daddy can get an hour or two of uninterrupted sleep...

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Crashing the pp thread here, still on the other side!

pacifica- for a newborn I loved my cuddly wrap, the stretchy kind. You can get baby super comfy and snug in there, cuddled right up to you, supporting their head really good... ds loved it when he was tiny. he'd only lay in it upright, in a fetal/froggy position, and he'd stay sleeping in there for hours, and he was secure and snug enough in there I could actually do stuff, go walk, make food etc. Really seemed to mimic the womb, soothe him...
If you don't want the learning curve of the wrap, and something more convenient to on/off I also really liked the mei tai. I didn't find it quite so snug and cosy for baby, but pretty close!

Hope that helps, and a huge congratulations ladies! I hope to be joining your club soon!

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I haven't tried to put Ozzy in a carrier yet... I do have a BH mei tai, and a SBP ring sling. Not sure which will work better, I'm thinking the mei tai because he likes to be upright. I'll probably give it a little while longer, though.

Both babies are napping right now... very very nice.

We're still doing well and uneventful here... the bilirubin check came back fine, no bad jaundice, so yay. We're all just hanging out and enjoying the first week.

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I put DS in a sling last night- a Peanut Shell- and we went to temple for half-hour long family service. He slept the whole time although I was paranoid and kept bugging him to move so I could check on his breathing. I was never really comfortable with DD in the sling until she could kind of sit up on her own. I think my MIL is bringing me a maya-wrap type thingy next week and I am excited to try that. I also got an infant insert for my Ergo which I need to try.

Things are going well PP here so far in the immediate NB pre-fussy stage. DH is off work and my mom is here which is awesome. DS is a more mellow NB (so far at least) than DD was and nursing is going well, unlike with DD where I had lots of pain and also she lost too much weight and we had to wake her up all the time to nurse. My milk came in after like a day and a half maybe (probably thanks in part to DD who is still nursing). We had our home visit yesterday from the birth center nurse and that went well.

We are figuring out the newborn cloth diapering stuff although almost everything I have seems to be too big! The only things that work right now are Bummis wraps in size NB with flat diapers. I only have two of those covers so I just ordered some more yesterday and I hope they will get here soon. My nb prefolds, XS Thirsties cover, and little Joeys diapers are all too big and he leaks out of them. And Kelly's idea of cutting out some rags to use as disposible liners for the meconium was great; that worked out well.

One thing I forgot about with newborns is the whole thing where they eat and then fall asleep and poop and you either let them sleep in a poopy diaper or change them and wake them up. Such a dilemma...

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I've been carrying Ellie around in a Catbird Baby Pikkolo carrier since about day 3. She really seems to like it and falls asleep immediately once she's snuggled in there. She's probably still a teensy bit small for it, but I just keep readjusting her and so far things seem good.

We went for our first newborn well checkup with our pediatrician's office, but got the doctor that I really don't like. When I asked him about how Ellie won't lay on her back in the co-sleeper at night, and just kicks and cries, his response was that "well, you can spoil a baby even from a very early age. You should let her cry it out." I was so stunned I couldn't even say anything, but DH told the doctor that she's been doing this kicking/crying thing since the first night she was born. The doctor then decided to check her hips to make sure everything was ok, but I absolutely refuse to see him for any other well visits. I left feeling pissed off and weepy.

Any advice for getting her to relax a little bit when we put her down? I usually feed her, then we swaddle her, swing or bounce her, then sing to her while she is in the cosleeper and I lay next to her. We've got her to relax for about a half an hour or so, but then she usually starts crying in earnest. DH has been sitting in a chair in the living room, holding her while she sleeps, so I can sleep a little between feedings, then bringing her in for feedings while he sleeps in bed. Obviously, not something we can keep up for long, especially once he goes back to work in a week (and trying to read info online about infant sleeping and napping makes me panic that I'm doing it all wrong, that she'll never, ever sleep, and I'm destined to screw everything up...)

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Laurski, this is us most of the time too. Last night she managed an hour or so at a time sleep, but the night before she just didn't want to be put down at all. I'm interested to hear what advice others might have!

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Oh and I forgot to add, WTH is with that ped? I'd be fuming, I can't believe he said that!

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Good day ladies! Well, my back pain subsided a great deal today. Hoping I turned a corner. On the bright side, I haven't even noticed any pain from my c-section and now the incision's pretty much healed!

I'm gonna research the wraps/carriers mentioned. I have a mei tei and a maya wrap. She just hates the maya wrap. I will continue trying the mei tei, but it doesn't have a lot of head support and she slinks down in there so far, I'm sure I'd worry about her breathing if she were not fussing.

Laurski, what a terrible pedi to say to cry it out! yuck! I can't imagine how many lonely babies there are, crying it out, because their doctor(a kid doctor on top of it) told them to CIO.

I'm slowly getting use to only nursing one baby. So much leakage!! I nursed twins my first time around and never had problems with leaking.

Laurski, wishing you luck with calming down/sleep time. My babe almost always falls asleep at the breast, and i end up holding her a lot of the time she's asleep.

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Just have a minute, but wanted to suggest that you tie your mai tai like a pod. Basically, take the top straps over your shoulders, cross them behind your back, and then bring them under your arms. Tie them in a square knot under the baby's bottom. You can wrap up the straps that usually go around your waist and fasten a rubberband around them, or loosely tie them around yourself somehow, if you prefer.

I like being able to hike the baby up higher, and snuggle them in tighter than a mai tai typically allows.

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I've been carrying Ellie around in a Catbird Baby Pikkolo carrier since about day 3. She really seems to like it and falls asleep immediately once she's snuggled in there. She's probably still a teensy bit small for it, but I just keep readjusting her and so far things seem good.

We went for our first newborn well checkup with our pediatrician's office, but got the douchebag doctor that I really don't like. When I asked him about how Ellie won't lay on her back in the co-sleeper at night, and just kicks and cries, his response was that "well, you can spoil a baby even from a very early age. You should let her cry it out." I was so stunned I couldn't even say anything, but DH told the doctor that she's been doing this kicking/crying thing since the first night she was born. The doctor then decided to check her hips to make sure everything was ok, but I absolutely refuse to see him for any other well visits. I left feeling pissed off and weepy.

Any advice for getting her to relax a little bit when we put her down? I usually feed her, then we swaddle her, swing or bounce her, then sing to her while she is in the cosleeper and I lay next to her. We've got her to relax for about a half an hour or so, but then she usually starts crying in earnest. DH has been sitting in a chair in the living room, holding her while she sleeps, so I can sleep a little between feedings, then bringing her in for feedings while he sleeps in bed. Obviously, not something we can keep up for long, especially once he goes back to work in a week (and trying to read info online about infant sleeping and napping makes me panic that I'm doing it all wrong, that she'll never, ever sleep, and I'm destined to screw everything up...)
Sorry to keep crashing...

Just want to give a :irk to your ped. That's crazy.

Also, it's possible she's overtired. It's easy to miss their sleepy cues in the beginning. If they start getting less sleep than they need, it turns into a nasty cycle.

I can't remember the name of the book, but the best advice I ever got was to try to do a 2 hourish routine. Usually, the baby is ready for a nap, even if it doesn't seem like it. They will sleep better, and longer if they are not too tired when they start their nap.

It looks something like this (I'm just going to use fake times for clarity. This is NOT rigid, and is NOT a schedule.)

8a nurse
830a change diaper, play
9a nurse (or whatever) to sleep
915a put down to finish nap
10a nurse
1030 change diaper, play
11a back to sleep
1115 put down...
Etc

At night, I ignore the wake time, and nurse every other hour. My babies seem to catch on pretty quick. I keep the lights off, and only change them if I have to. (usually, I do, though.) Another thing you can try is to be sure to dress her in day clothes during the day, and make sure she gets plenty of light. At nighttime, choose cozier, more comfortable clothing, and keep it dark.

It really is a lot harder to keep getting up to get the baby, nurse the baby, put the baby back to bed over and over. Just holding her yourself and rolling over to nurse her will afford you a lot more sleep. I just hold my babies in the crook of my arm, lined up and all ready to nurse when they want. I don't want to push you to bed share if you are really not up for it, but I did want to mention how much easier it is.

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Hi guys,

Cate is 17 days old now, and doing okay. Has most of her birth weight back, and fortunately, her pedi did NOT get into it with me about formula but he did give me the lecture that she should be gaining an ounce a day between now and her two month appt. No pressure She is super acid reflux-y and spits frequently, but the doc doesn't want to medicate for another few months. I may lose my mind...lol. We've discovered that she needs to nap/hang out sitting up, so she actually naps on her side/belly against the back of her bouncer. How's that for breaking every sleep rule?! But hey, she sleeps like that for 2-3 hour stretches and gives my boobs a break, so yay!

A few of you mentioned babies not wanting to sleep on their backs...have you tried a swing or bouncer so that they are sleeping more upright? With DD #1, we put her travel swing in the PnP/crib with pillows keeping it imobile and let her sleep upright for a few weeks. It got her through the spit stage and everyone got some sleep. Cate does co-sleep with us, for now, to establish nursing. I'll admit that it's driving me nuts and I'm not sure how much longer I can do it (co-sleeping). I'm such a light sleeper as it is, and feel like I can't move much with Cate next to me, so I'm losing more sleep than I'm getting...:sigh: Everyone else is sleeping like champs though...

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My toddler is sick. Some type of cold, runny nose, coughing, no high fever.

I'm so freaked out for Ozzy. I really don't want him to get sick at only 5 days old. Luckily I'm feeling a touch of it myself, hopefully I have been exposed to it enough that my breastmilk will keep him from getting it.

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Kelly1101, I'm sorry you have sickness in your house too. My boys are on day 3 of sickness and baby girl seems to not be catching it. Must be really hard with a toddler. My boys are older and able to lay watching a movie without needing a lot of me.

Great advice Just1More. Laurski, we co-sleep too and I feel like I get a lot more sleep as well. My baby is right by my side and I nurse her back to sleep quickly, most of the time. From experience, if baby gets overtired/overstimulated they are much more difficult to get back to sleep and they don't sleep as long....I try to think of it as a 3 hour cycle from wake til sleep again....sometimes less than 3. Wake. Nurse. Diaper change. Sit up/awake time (not very long for newborn). Nurse to sleep again. I also make sure baby is completely limp and really asleep before lying her down.

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At least Ozzy sleeps great for now. He's been napping by himself in the crib for the past hour. It is making it a lot easier to care for Em.

Forgot to add, his cord stump fell off last night! At not quite 5 days old. Seems too early, but it looks fine and healthy, so *shrug*

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We are on day two and Sawyer has his days and nights completely mixed up. Dh and I are pretty exhausted since we still have Cooper during the day. Fortunately my DH has 2 weeks off of work and I have only gotten out of bed to pee really. I sleep when the baby sleeps for the most part and DH takes care of DS1.

Any tips on getting his days and nights straightened out? We've tried keeping him awake during the day, but that's pretty much impossible! just screams and screams until he's nursed and falls back asleep. Diaper changes, baths, nothing is working at keeping him awake... About 6pm he'll wake up and stay awake until about 3am and then sleeps from 3am till about 10am then 11ish until 6ish, with just waking to nurse and diaper changes... oy

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I wouldn't try to keep him awake at all-- will just make him overtired and less likely to sleep.

Try making things really boring at night-- lay in the bed, dim lights, only getting up to change a diaper.

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Forgot to add, his cord stump fell off last night! At not quite 5 days old. Seems too early, but it looks fine and healthy, so *shrug*
Ellie's fell off around day 6--I also thought it was a bit early, but it all seems ok too...

Thanks for the advice, everyone! Just1More, I really appreciate your giving me a concrete example of how to think about breaking up the day.

We have a cosleeper attached to our bed, but Ellie still doesn't like it, and I tried having her next to me on the bed this morning, but she wasn't a huge fan. I know much of this is due to her newness to the world and it will pass, but as you all know, it can be hard to think rationally on so little sleep... Also, I've been trying to learn how to nurse while lying down, but my boobs (somewhere between an I and a J cup) are a bit too unwieldy to really do so successfully...

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DS's cord seems about to fall off too here at day 4. I think b/c it is warm he is less dressed and it gets more air than my winter DD's did.

I am having some success with side-lying nursing now which I couldn't do w/ DD until much, much later. Makes sleep much better. Also, DH is handling the toddler night wakings (my rule for DD since we night-weaned about 11 months ago is she can't nurse until 5am but she still wakes up 1-2x night) and my mom is handling the 5:30am toddler getup and morning stuff. DH and I were saying that even though the chunks of sleep are really small we are getting more sleep than before the baby came! It will be tough once my mom leaves on Tues (she is probably doing 90% of taking care of DD) and I am not letting myself think about what it will be like once DH goes back to work.

And we found out that today DS is already back to birthweight.... so that was exciting!

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Glad to help. That exact info sure helped me a good deal the first time I read it!

As far as side-lying nursing. I couldn't get the hang of it with my first, either. She was just too little to hold herself, and I couldn't get the angle right. When she was a few days old, I let her latch on while I was sitting up. Then, still holding her, I slowly eased us down on the bed. I had to unlatch and relatch her right as we got down to the bed, but doing it that way let me see how I should hold her. We were good after that! Most of the pictures show the mom with an arm tucked under her head, and the baby lying beside her. It works better for me if I hold the baby on my arm the whole time. HTH!

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Oh Mamas, my baby girl got the cold my older kids have. She started coughing last night and by morning, she now has a stuffy nose and is fussy. Any advice would be wonderful. She's only 12 days old, I feel so bad/worried for her.

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Oh Mamas, my baby girl got the cold my older kids have. She started coughing last night and by morning, she now has a stuffy nose and is fussy. Any advice would be wonderful. She's only 12 days old, I feel so bad/worried for her.
I'm so sorry I don't even know what to do for such a newborn, besides nurse and nurse-- I'd try a nose aspirator. Do you have a humidifier to put near where she sleeps? That couldn't hurt. If there was any fever I'd call the doctor, just because she's so little.

We've been lucky here so far, Ozzy seems fine, hopefully it will stay that way since I caught a touch of what Em has. Em ended up running a high fever yesterday afternoon, but it broke overnight... the runny nose has slacked off a lot, too, although I think her throat is still hurting her. She's napping now...

It's been kind of tough emotionally because it's like I haven't yet figured out how it works to split my focus and attention... it's like I'm worried so much about Ozzy being sick, but I'm also really sad for my Em and want to make her feel better, and trying to deal with both is somehow mentally exhausting me, I'm not used to being scared for two little people at the same time, if that makes sense.

My mom came up last night because she's the most awesome person ever. I was just so worn down, the post partum hormones were peaking and I couldn't stop crying, Emma wouldn't sleep, etc... so she came up and spent some time snuggling Emma while I took care of Ozzy, and we all managed to get some sleep last night. Was very needed, husband and I had been up all night the night before.

In other news, my nipples are so mangled right now. I remember feeling like this about this time with Em, so I know it will pass, but it is not at all fun. I cringe just thinking about nursing. It only hurts when he first latches on for like 20 seconds or so, once he gets going it is just sore, but at first it is like knock-me-out-of-this-chair pain. I've been trying to be religious with the lanolin and carefully making sure that he latches right, hopefully this part passes soon.

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