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Any mamas planning for a VBAC?

I had a C/S with DD -- water broke at 40w1d, next morning took castor oil and had acupuncture in hopes of starting labor, but nothing happened. That night, I was given pitocin to start labor. The next day I was told I needed a c/s for "failure to progress." I'm a lot more informed on the topic now, and I'm hoping to advocate for a low-intervention birth. I truly feel as if my c/s was unnecessary. I wish I had been more educated at the time. This time I'm planning on having a dear midwife friend be my doula. We have to have a hospital birth b/c of finances, though I desperately wish we could have an HBAC. I'm working with a midwife I adore, and have some plans to do things differently this time around. Eat healthier, don't accept everything my C.P. tells me as fact, etc. I value my care providers opinion, but last time I didn't know that they couldn't FORCE me to do anything I didn't want to.

What are other ladies doing to prepare for their VBAC?

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I will be having my 9th VBAC.

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I am planning my 2nd VBAC. My son was an HBAC. I had severe pre-e with my daughter. She was born at 35 weeks because my bp had spiked to 212/121. I was nervous when I was pregnant with my son but I had a beautiful, uneventful home VBAC.

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I am planning my second VBAC. I had a c/s with my first DS because he was breech. I had a wonderful VBAC with DS #2 and with this one we are planning a homebirth. Good luck! You can do it!
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I'm planning a HBAC.

I had a C/S with DD. Spontaneous labour, got fully dilated, but the on-call OB got nervous and (long story short) ended up with a horrible in-hospital experience and was sectioned for breech. I believe it to be completely unnecessary and I still have lots of issues with it that I am actively working though. This time we'll try to avoid the hospital.

As for preparing for the VBAC. I've been randomly reading whatever I could get my hands on since DD was born and my comfort level is where it should be with that decision. I have the midwife I think suits me best (although, she is leaving the country 2 days after my due date, so that's making me a bit nervous!). DH is on board with most of my decisions (a few prenatal ones left to duke out, but nothing too serious). I have a really good support network too (friends). We will be keeping our intentions to home birth from our family, and anyone who might object. I do not want to deal with anyone close to me thinking I'm foolish with my decisions. I realized that last time when carrying a breech.
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This will be my 2nd VBAC. My cesarean was for my second child, and was both forced and unnecessary. After that experience, I think the only way I'd submit to even being in a hospital is in the event that both my child and I are at mortal risk by a natural birth process.

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this will be my 2nd vbac! Hoping for a birth center waterbirth!

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This will be my second vbac as well. My first vbac was 43 hours, so here is hoping this one comes a little quicker

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i had an unplanned c/s after 24+ hours of intervention-free labor with my son (now 2.5). i am only 5 weeks along and it's barely sunk in, but i really should get to contacting a midwife! i do NOT wish to use the same MW practice i used with my son, and i actually read a lot on VBACS and phone-interviewed the 4 MF potentials in my area a year or so ago, but now that this is real i am feeling gunshy about getting it going. i think i like being in my own bubble about this right now, and i definitely fear having the "safety of a HBAC" (what i really want) conversation with well-meaning but misinformed family/friends/coworkers. ah well - being armed with a provider i'm happy with is the first step, right?

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This will be my third VBAC. I was induced at 37.5 weeks for high bp with my son and labor never started. They talked me into a c/s after pulling the big-baby card.

Got educated and had two subsequent births at home in the water. Both times my water broke well before. With ds2 it was broken for 36 hrs before labor started - 41 before he was born. With dd it broke 18 hrs before labor started - 23 hrs before she was born).

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After speaking to a midwife friend, my c/s with my first was actually unavoidable. I was 37 weeks and I had pre-e and HELLPS. My liver was failing. Ds ended up being forhead presenting so he went into distress.

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justvanessa, that makes me feel better knowing you had a successful VBAC after a medically necessary c/s. mine was too by most accounts (large posterior baby who wasn't getting anywhere after 3.5 hours of pushing, and water FULL of meconium when they finally broke them for me after hours of pushing), which makes me a little nervous to think that could all happen again. i am meeting with my new midwife tomorrow and will see how it goes!
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My vbac was very long and ds2 was posterior as well, he ended up being vaccummed out, I just couldn't push anymore. But it still was way easier than a c/s and I am definately going to be vbacing again.

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i met with my front-runner midwife yesterday and feel really good about it. she thinks my chances are really good, as i dilated fully last time, and has some ideas for making my conditionas as optimal as possible. i am excited and nervous to plan a HBAC. i am keeping our news private for a while (very few friends and family know yet), and i like it being my little secret because i really don't want to deal with all the "well meaning" naysayers out there.

oh, and i found out that NY state law dictates that my insurance has to reimburse a homebirth midwife, even if she's out of network! i thought i would have to pay out of pocket, but this sounds promising, indeed. it will probably mean a lot of red tape and arguments with the insurance company, but still!
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oh, and i found out that NY state law dictates that my insurance has to reimburse a homebirth midwife, even if she's out of network! i thought i would have to pay out of pocket, but this sounds promising, indeed. it will probably mean a lot of red tape and arguments with the insurance company, but still!
Same thing here in NM when I had my 4th. It turned out to be rather uncomplicated. Have fun planning your HBAC!

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My first birth was an unplanned c-section due to fetal distress. It was actually a pretty good experience as far as it could have been for having not been planned for. Healing was not that terrible. However, I thought it would be better to have a vaginal birth the 2nd time around. Big mistake!!

I had a VBAC 7 weeks ago and it was the worst experience of my life! I planned for it, read up on it, discussed it with the dr and had full support. I ended up being in labor for 40 hours. I tore and the stitches never dissolved but dried up and began pulling to where I had such excruciating pain that I couldn't even lie still without pain. I had to go to the ER to have them removed. My bladder has prolapsed and I still experience daily pain. I've been to the dr and they told me I have to give myself at least 12 weeks to heal and they will only refer me to a specialist at that point. The doctors and staff at the hospital were great. I don't blame them although I wish they would have just suggested I have the c-section when things weren't progressing.

If I could do it over, I would have a c-section. This has been completely not worth the pain. I am so blessed with my daughter but I never want to go through this again. If I decide to have another child, it will be by c-section again! Carefully consider if it is worth the risk!
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I am so sorry, Parismeg. :( Bless your heart. What a difficult way to welcome a new baby into the world.   I am so sorry you've been suffering for months with such discomfort. I hope you heal well and soon!

 

That being said, those are not exactly the typical dangers of a VBAC.  They aren't even typical dangers of a long, stalled out labor.  I had that--42 hours of labor (12 hours at 5 cm).  I had stitches from a second degree tear too, but they healed and disolved well.  It's much more common to hear of difficulties and complications due to c-sections.  I honor your right to share your experience with ladies looking to go down the same path, but from what I can see, what happened to you could have happened to anyone VBAC or no.  And I'm sure you wouldn't recommend that the majority of first time birthing women just go get C-sections to avoid even the struggles you've had.

 

You can feel good about the start you gave your baby when you passed your unique gut flora on to your baby at birth (full of antibodies and digestive enzymes), helped squeeze and stimulate lungs and other functions through the birth canal, all the other wonderfully designed things that only happen in a vaginal birth situation that I, or even scientists, haven't yet realized yet.  You did something amazing for your baby.

 

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This will be my second VBAC.  My first child was born via emergency c-section after 44 hours of pretty terrible labour.  I mean not that labour is ever pleasant, but the entire experience was just awful.  I was made to feel like my body didn't belong to me, like I had no choices, like the whole thing was out of my hands.  I had caved after hour 20ish and gotten an epidural, and at that point labour pretty much stopped.  When the baby went into fetal distress, they moved me into the O.R. and tried to extract her with a vacuum, which failed.  And then the c-section.  I had been there so long that the medication actually wore off during the c-section (ouch?) and recovery was just terrible.  Several months of pain.

 

Needless to say, I aimed for a vaginal birth the second time around, hah.  No medication, a spectacular nurse who had had a VBAC herself and didn't leave my side, and my son was born after 5 easy, if painful, hours of labour.  It was such a good experience that I'm definitely hoping to do it that way again.

 

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Thanks to everyone who posted about their vbacs and plans... they were great to read. i too am hoping to vbac this time, my son was a c-section after 5 hours of pushing with no progress... he was forehead presenting too. i am planning a hospital midwife birth, kind of taking the middle road. I didn't find that being at home was as comfortable as i'd hoped, with #1, and the hospital was not as bad as i thought either. plus i don't want my son to be present for labor and birth, i think it would really upset him, and our house is not sound proof in any way.

my plans to try to prepare for this are: 1. get chiropracty, 2. do a yoga birth class, and 3. get a doula. any other suggestions welcome!

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my plans to try to prepare for this are: 1. get chiropracty, 2. do a yoga birth class, and 3. get a doula. any other suggestions welcome!



we had many hours of pushing coupled with a malpositioned baby, too, that led to our c/s. my plans this time involve chiropracty and investing in a pilates ball to sit on to help orient/position me and baby better. i am wondering how far along i should be before enacting these 2 things .... i'm actually thinking of posting this question in the greater MDC VBAC forum. good luck!

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i'm hoping for a hbac. ds was suppose to be a home birth but the midwives i was using wanted to induce me and they said he didn't have enough fluid for a home birth. 37 hours of pain-med free, but pitocined labor i stalled at 9 cm and despite trying every position i couldn't get him to descend. ds was op & 9lbs. if i had to do again i wouldn't induce, but instead try chiropractic care & acupuncture to help prepare ds for labor. i was really swollen in my feet and spent a lot of time with my feet up trying to get the swelling down, but i think this was a bad position for the baby.


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i'm hoping for a hbac. ds was suppose to be a home birth but the midwives i was using wanted to induce me and they said he didn't have enough fluid for a home birth. 37 hours of pain-med free, but pitocined labor i stalled at 9 cm and despite trying every position i couldn't get him to descend. ds was op & 9lbs. if i had to do again i wouldn't induce, but instead try chiropractic care & acupuncture to help prepare ds for labor. i was really swollen in my feet and spent a lot of time with my feet up trying to get the swelling down, but i think this was a bad position for the baby.

What led them to believe you had low fluid? Did they suggest alternatives? How did they determine you actually had low fluid? I just find this so odd!


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Chiropractic: the earlier the better. The yoga ball will help your overall pelvic alignment, too. I've heard conventional couches/easy chairs are very hard on this. I've been meaning to get mine out but I'm reluctant to sacrifice space in our tiny house :)


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What led them to believe you had low fluid? Did they suggest alternatives? How did they determine you actually had low fluid? I just find this so odd!


they did an u/s at 41wk6d. they said i needed at least 5cm for a home birth, but i only had 3cm. i wish i had hydrated more that day. they also did a nonstress test and ds passed. i found the whole thing so odd too.

 

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they did an u/s at 41wk6d. they said i needed at least 5cm for a home birth, but i only had 3cm. i wish i had hydrated more that day. they also did a nonstress test and ds passed. i found the whole thing so odd too.

 

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I wish they had suggested you drink, just so odd. It seems they were looking for something to risk you out. The whole low fluid thing is such ridiculousness.


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I wish they had suggested you drink, just so odd. It seems they were looking for something to risk you out. The whole low fluid thing is such ridiculousness.


Yes, they should have.  But ... I had low fluid too, and I was drinking water non stop.  A full 8 ounces every half hour for all the time I was awake and it did nothing - except keep me in the bathroom!  They started this at 8, and mine only got to 4.4 (after a 'gush' that left no 'evidence' (we swabbed a few hours later) 4 days before labour started, and did not replemish)  and they made a big deal of it at the hospital - my midwife did not (we were at the hospital for other reasons).  I'm in Ontario, Canada, and oligohydramnios is a required consult with a physician, but not transfer of care.  I don't know if a transfer to the hospital is required or suggested, but I do recall them mentioning some magic number that it had to be above for a home birth (or was that just the ECV - might have been both).  I do know that the midwives were surprised that my hydrating didn't seem to make any difference.  (mine were determined by u/s - I had 8 in the last 3/4 weeks - NEVER again!).  

 

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nononose, thanks for sharing your experience. i would like to think it may have made some difference, but i may have been like you. i think they should have least offered me the suggestion. i think the midwives i was using were nervous about my late pg. this makes no sense since everything else was normal throughout my whole pg.


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nononose, thanks for sharing your experience. i would like to think it may have made some difference, but i may have been like you. i think they should have least offered me the suggestion. i think the midwives i was using were nervous about my late pg. this makes no sense since everything else was normal throughout my whole pg.



I definitely think they should have.  If it happens again, you'll know.  I'm sorry they were nervous about the later pg too - that's another thing that really bothers me, but my daughter came on her own at 39 weeks, so I don't get to personalize that one!  Still, I find this whole 'expiry date' mentality quite annoying!  Good luck with this one!

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so ... now that we've been broadcasting our news, i'm coming across an issue i will have to deal with eventually. people ask if we will be finding out what we're having (nope, same as last time), when i'm due (i know since i went 10 days postdate last time to not give a specific date - i've been saying late june even though my due date is mid june) and where we'll be having the baby. for most people it's just small talk, but i know i'm gonna get a lot of "well meaning concern" when i mention our plans for a HBAC, at least in my work community (i work at a hospital). i don't mind telling people closer to us and explaining, if people express concern about safety, that i have research this heavily, have a midwife who supports me, and this is not open for negotiation.  i kinda feel like taking the cheater/lie of omission way out by telling people we're not close to that "we would go to NameOfHospitalIfWeHaveAHospitalTransfer". so far i have just said we haven't decided yet, but that won't work when i'm 30+ weeks, necessarily.

 

my husband says we should just own our decision and state it strongly rather than introduce the notion that we will be going to a hospital repeatedly, and i can see his point for sure. any thoughts? anyone else dealing with this issue?

 

for what it's worth, i saw a hospital-based midwife practice last time and labored intervention-free for over 24 hours before they broke my water (after 3+ hours of pushing), discovered thick meconium, and steered me towards a section. my son was in the NICU for almost 2 weeks. this would be the "what-if" line of thinking that people leery of a homebirth would use.

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One option that would go along with your husbands position would be to answer with:

 

 

Them:   'Where are you having the baby?'

 

You:     'Out of my vagina.'yikes2.gif

 

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