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#151 of 157 Old 05-23-2011, 11:01 AM
 
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Just to clarify:  If I HAD to move one of the kids to the front seat, it should be the 4 y/o because she could still fit into a 5-point harnessed seat, and NOT the 6 y/o because she'd most likely have to go into a booster?  If that's the case, I'm SO glad you said that because I'd have put the oldest in the front.  guilty.gif


Yep, the 4 yr old is safer in the front seat in a 5-pt harness and moved back from the airbag than the oldest would be in a booster seat. The harness will keep her well back from the airbag and it won't pose a danger to her.

 



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See? I knew Jenni would know! :)    All I know is, is that Britax seats are so hard to fit beside each other. When we were trying to figure out seat placements for my 4 nephews, the only seats that we could get to work were either a Radian, or a cheap seat like the CostCo Senera --- super slim, but kind of scary b/c they are so stinkin' light! <--- but super cheap and rated pretty well. 

 

Good idea about the latch--- would make it much , much easier to install.  And I totally would have put the oldest in the front seat too---- Obviously, I am NOT an expert by any means!!!


I'm a fan of both Radian and Britax seats, but the truth of the matter is that all car seats pass the same crash test. They are tested installed on a bench seat and rammed into a wall at 30 mph in a lab. All seats sold in the US have to pass that basic test. Some manufacturers do extra testing and they do extra stuff to their seats, but ultimately the Cosco Scenera is equally as safe as a Britax or Radian is. LATCH can make it much easier to install multiple seats in a row, the problem with most cars is that there's no lower anchors for the middle seat, only the sides. So the middle seat still needs to be installed with the seat belt. And if you have a kiddo in a booster seat you obviously have to use the seat belt and not the LATCH.

 



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OH, I meant to specify that yes, there are 3 lap belts in the back.

 

The more I think about it, though, the less comfortable I am putting anybody in the front seat.  I can't disable the air bag at all, and the only way to get the Graco rear-facing is to put it in either the middle or behind the front passenger seat with that seat moved up nearly as far as it will go.

 

If the seat has to be moved up that far with the Graco behind it, I wouldn't put it there. The middle is probably going to be your best bet for that seat.

 


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I tried on nursing bras at this weekend with no success.  My first month with my DD I lived in a sleeping nursing bra and a black nursing cami (both from Target).  I couldn't find a sleeping bra.  I have my old one but it is VERY tired and worn.  I am trying to find a way to convince people to get me gift cards to Bravado and such for my baby shower (why not?  I don't need a baby bottle ensemble).  We have a very limited selection of places to buy them here in Alaska, so I am suspecting that I will have to find some way to get fitted and order them after breastfeeding is established again.

 

Smokering, you crack me up!  I would hope that trained medics could do something---artificially respirate me or something until they got to the hospital and the baby can be removed safely.  I read a compelling book (fiction) about a midwife who did a c-section on a dead woman to save her baby.  I can't remember the name of the book, but I don't recommend reading it right now with labor imminent!  My pleas to DH have been to try to find someone who will breastfeed my baby if I died or to be skin-to-skin with the baby if I am in another room being sewn up from a c-section, etc.  I might have to broach this idea with my DH as well--if I die do all you can to save the baby.  Although, he WOULD NOT come at me with a butcher knife, maybe he would be able to speed things up with the medical professionals.

 

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We have a fairly decent set of kitchen knives, but once DH got to the uterus I actually think my sewing scissors might be a better bet. Don't you think? I mean, it'd have a tough, muscly texture - he might have more control and power with scissors. Mine are pretty sharp, even though I do have a bad habit of cutting paper with them as well as fabric.

 

I hadn't really thought about the placenta - good point! I have an anterior placenta; I guess that would make things trickier. *I* know where it is, and I'm sure I've told DH dozens of times, but I bet he'd forget in a crisis.

 

I recently read that a small-but-higher-than-I'd-have-expected percentage of babies get cut or nicked during regular C-sections, which really skeeved me out. Still, just leaving the baby there obviously wouldn't do it any favours, so I guess that's just a chance DH would have to take!

 

I can't say I'd envy him the situation... I'm not sure I could perform such an operation myself, if it were my sister or something. (And if it were a random stranger, I'd be pretty terrified that her husband would come across us and be all "Why are you butchering my dead wife?", which would be hard to explain - can you imagine the media coverage? Not that one should be thinking about the media coverage at a time like that, but you'd run a fairly severe risk of being known as the Subway Mangler or something, innit.) My flatmate mostly seemed concerned with his ability to make sure I was really dead first, so I suspect he'd dither around until it was too late. Understandable, really.

 

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Smokering, you crack me up!  I would hope that trained medics could do something---artificially respirate me or something until they got to the hospital and the baby can be removed safely.  I read a compelling book (fiction) about a midwife who did a c-section on a dead woman to save her baby.

Can anyone give me a definite answer on whether that would work (artificial respiration)? I'm curious about it. Might have to email my doctor friend, but he already thinks I'm weird. I could ask my midwife, but well, ditto...

 

I believe C-sections were only ever initially performed post-mortem. That whole thing about Julius Caesar being the first C-section is almost certainly a myth, because his mother survived until he was grown up (plus, "Caesarean" comes from a Latin word meaning "to cut", so the Caesar etymology isn't necessary). I've read a few historical fiction novels from various periods in which MWs did post-mortem C-sections, but I don't know how common they actually were back then.

 

Now, if you want to talk really hardcore, have you guys read about that woman in India who did a C-section on herself? Amazing.


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Can anyone give me a definite answer on whether that would work (artificial respiration)? I'm curious about it. Might have to email my doctor friend, but he already thinks I'm weird. I could ask my midwife, but well, ditto...

 

I believe C-sections were only ever initially performed post-mortem. That whole thing about Julius Caesar being the first C-section is almost certainly a myth, because his mother survived until he was grown up (plus, "Caesarean" comes from a Latin word meaning "to cut", so the Caesar etymology isn't necessary). I've read a few historical fiction novels from various periods in which MWs did post-mortem C-sections, but I don't know how common they actually were back then.

 

Now, if you want to talk really hardcore, have you guys read about that woman in India who did a C-section on herself? Amazing.

 

I'm assuming that you mean CPR by "artificial respiration"? It would buy about 5 minutes, but probably less. Brain death begins after 6 minutes with no oxygen at all, but with chest compressions to move the heart muscle & pump blood it would keep some of the oxygen in the blood moving around like it should. Just and FYI since we're on the topic, do 30 chest compressions and then 2 breaths. Chest compressions should push the chest wall down 1/2 to 1 inch and the heel of your hand should be on the sternum (that hard bony part in the middle of your chest).

 

You're right about the initial c/s. They did them after the mother was dead, freshly so, because there was no other way to get the baby out. It also must be said that they weren't always that successful, but it was certainly better than not trying at all. And it is a myth that Julius Caesar was the first baby born via c/s.

 

I didn't hear about the lady doing her own c/s. It's amazing what people can accomplish when they have no other choice. I'm not sure that I could cut myself open, but if it was to save my baby and myself... maybe. It's hard to say until you're actually IN that position. I don't ever want to be!
 

 


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In my most recent CPR class I think they told us rescue breaths were optional, because enough people were avoiding doing CPR just because of not wanting to put their mouth on a stranger's. Eesh... such a world we live in.

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I am not at all a medical professional, but I was wondering about actually forcing oxygen into the system, you know an iron lung type thing.  Although, I guess that would be silly if your heart stopped and your blood was no longer pumping oxygen around. 

 

I guess I will just have to hope this never happens to any of us! smile.gif  Thankfully, as horrible as stomach bugs are, they are rarely life threatening (at least without a LOT of warning!).


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