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Old 12-01-2008, 09:20 PM - Thread Starter
 
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Hey! Welcome to December, mamas!!
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thanks for starting this! happy december!!! we're still celebrating a few labor and birth days, eh?

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OMG, I am so excited about meeting Gunter and barcelona (and families) tomorrow! I'll be sure to take my camera and document our little DDC reunion! I'm picking the kids up from school and then heading down there, I don't think my DH will be able to come. His loss!

My kids have actually been playing together nicely all afternoon - its absolutely shocking! Right now they're playing on Ellie's bunk beds. Listening in, it seems that Killian keeps having to save Ellie's babies from terrible fates.

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we're still celebrating a few labor and birth days, eh?
Yep - we're up next! Considering my labor was like 30 hours, I think it's officially my labor day today (and tomorrow!).

QoC and Gunter, have so much fun with Hillary! I'm so hating that I can't be there with y'all!

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I'm so envious of your meet-up, guys! I wish I could do a round-the-world tour meeting MDC mamas everywhere.

We had a bit of an off-day... I think Rowan didn't get enough sleep last night. She turned super-cranky at about noon. But we had a nice morning, putting our holiday lights up and then going to the park and poaching some holly. (I don't feel the least bit bad about that, it's an invasive weed here, but it does look pretty in wreaths. And it's better than stealing from the neighbours. Right?)

Happy labour day, Amy!

Does anyone know if a dr. can remove an iud if you've got your period? :

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I know most doctors prefer to insert them while you have your period because the cervix is slightly dilated. I wouldn't think it would be a problem to remove one during your period... I keep considering getting an IUD because I hate having to remember to take my pill every day (and Nuvaring is $40 more per month than the pill, and I hate charting because I don't like to abstain on the days my sex-drive is through the roof so I spend 10 days of the month really bitchy, and DH won't use condoms). But, I can't get past the ick-factor of knowing there would be a foreign object inside my body. (shudder) Plus, I'm a little conflicted about the possibility that I could still ovulate and that eggs would be fertilized but not able to implant... I'd want to go for the copper if I did, since its good for 10 years and hormone free. But then there's also the fact that I have endometriosis and I wonder if it would just make it worse. Any words of wisdom or advice?

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But, I can't get past the ick-factor of knowing there would be a foreign object inside my body. (shudder) Plus, I'm a little conflicted about the possibility that I could still ovulate and that eggs would be fertilized but not able to implant... I'd want to go for the copper if I did, since its good for 10 years and hormone free. But then there's also the fact that I have endometriosis and I wonder if it would just make it worse. Any words of wisdom or advice?
Often copper IUDs cause heavier bleeding. Helen has one, I think? I've been considering one for post-baby, since I would really like to avoid hormonal birth control, and don't really like my diaphragm. I made an OB that I used to work with explain to me how I could remove it myself in a post-apocalyptic world where I needed to re-populate the planet, and it went a long way in helping me deal with the anxiety of having something in my body. I guess it wasn't the foreign object issue as much as the control issue of not being in control of being able to take it out myself. He already thought I was a little crazy, and that conversation certainly didn't help the matter.

QofC, what about Depo-Provera? Or a vasectomy? Personally, I think all of the options kind of suck. My husband is considering a vasectomy after this baby, but he wavers on it.

spughy, stealing holly is a public service. I've spent weekends volunteering trying to get invasive holly out of forests.

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Gunter, Barcelona, and QoC, I will be thinking of y'all with envy and a great deal of : tomorrow! Hillary, break a leg!

Sarah, sleeplessness at night or fighting a much-needed nap during the day are key ingredients in the meltdown recipe around here, too. And in reading of your thievery , I had a moment. We have holly all over the place here, and I have never once thought of it to decorate with, despite the fact that the leaves stay green forever! Thanks for the idea.

We're doing a unit on the Greeks and Romans in my class right now, and today each student chose one Olympic god or goddess to study in detail to kick off the theme. Afterward, I asked them to share what attracted them to their particular choices, and it was so interesting to hear their reasoning--a lot of the boys were attracted to the power of Zeus, Hades, and Poseidon, and several of the girls wanted to study the goddess of love and beauty, Aphrodite. I keep thinking--our babies are THREE, y'all! A hop, skip and a jump from this fragile and beautiful and challenging stage called adolescence! (And I know I post about this all the time, but it's just so much of my life... ) Over the past several months, Joshua and I have had the conversation many times over about our toddler-turned-little boy, and how we never knew how marked and poignant the passage of time could be until we had a child to whirl through it.
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I keep considering getting an IUD because I hate having to remember to take my pill every day. Any words of wisdom or advice?
I really found my IUD to be a good option for us. I had a Mirena and it made life SOOO much easier than taking the pill - I'll never go back to that again! After this baby, I will most likely get another IUD; Mirenas last for 5 years. At that point, I'll probably be pre-menopausal anyway! When I got mine taken out, it was like so incredibly simple, I honestly could have done it myself. But if you have the ick factor, and the ethical/fertilization issue, that's a little harder. I'd really love for Jason to get a vasectomy after this babe, but he won't even consider it. Hmph!! :

Oh and Spughy, I don't see any reason why they couldn't take it out while you're having your period. Just messy for them, but otherwise it shouldn't have anything to do with it.

So, random baby name question for y'all - how popular is the name Owen? We both really like it, but it seems on the cusp of trendy. Social Security ranks it around #60 - so, known, but not annoyingly popular. I actually don't know any kids named Owen, so I guess that's a good sign. Amongst your kids' friends, do you know many boys named Owen? (I just posted a poll over in the April DDC if you want to vote!)

PS: Mel and DiD, do you already have baby names picked out? I don't remember you mentioning.

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Often copper IUDs cause heavier bleeding. Helen has one, I think? I've been considering one for post-baby, since I would really like to avoid hormonal birth control, and don't really like my diaphragm.
I have a copper IUD and haven't noticed heavier bleeding, although I do get cramps after sex. Not debilitating cramps, just annoying. I can't do hormones at all so it was pretty much the only real option.

Thanks for the info about removal during periods - I'm just glad I won't have to make another appointment!

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spughy, stealing holly is a public service. I've spent weekends volunteering trying to get invasive holly out of forests.
Weeellllll there's removing invasive holly and then there's pruning the good bits off (volunteer) trees in Beacon Hill Park. The wild bit of it, but still...

Amy, I like Owen. I know one kid called Owen, he's Rowan's age - that's it. (There are 2 other kids called Rowan who go to our playgroup...) Owen is not common around here.

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Oh, DH will get a vasectomy when we're absolutely sure we're done. But, he's 30 and I'm 29 and we'd always planned on having 4 or 5 kids... We're pretty sure we're done now, though, but not totally positive, you know? And I have no interest in Depo because of all the weight gain horror stories I've heard about it and my body issues. See, logically I know I'm a perfect candidate for an IUD - but I just can't get comfortable with it.

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I just happened to see this thread and wondered what it was! It didn't even occur to me that it was DECEMBER and we have a new thread!

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I'm so envious of your meet-up, guys! I wish I could do a round-the-world tour meeting MDC mamas everywhere.
: that would be so awesome! A round the world MDC meet- up tour! Have a great time together, QoC, Gunter, and Barcelona! I want to see pics!!!!

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Personally, I think all of the options kind of suck. My husband is considering a vasectomy after this baby, but he wavers on it.
Yeah, I can't stand any of the options, either. Now that I have been monitoring my cycle for a few yrs I could never go back to hormonal bc. And I can't get past the idea of any type of foriegn body inside me! There seems to be no real ideal long term solution except vasectomy.

Thanks so much ladies for your support re: my Thanksgiving woes! Teresa, I esp. think you articulated it just right (as you always seem to do!) Hopefully next year when the kids are older and with more advance planning we can make it into more of a public-service occasion than focusing on the meal that only I care about.
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PS: Mel and DiD, do you already have baby names picked out? I don't remember you mentioning.
Our newest son will be named Lucius Kincaid.
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That's sweet.

OK on the IUD, I don't think I've shared my woes. It went in as emergency contraception, and the period that happened 5 days later was pretty normal, but a bit crampy. The one that happened after that, however, was a bloodbath. It didn't hurt, but there was blood everywhere, filling my mooncup every 45 minutes for the first day and a half and leaking and it was just generally horrific. The second full cycle after insertion, I figured out something was going on and put myself on iron supplements beforehand, as I was having anaemia symptoms, and I was down to only losing 15ml every hour and a half, and only for 12 hours or so. I ovulated a few days ago, so I'm waiting with baited breath to see what happens this time: I've been advised that it can take three full cycles for things to calm down post-insertion, so I'm probably going to give it one more month before I give up and have it taken out. I really, really want this to work for me: I loved everything about Mirena apart from the fact that it dried me out so much that DH and I were getting friction burns even WITH lube, I hate condoms and I'm sensitive to spermicides, Rowan was a diaphraghm baby and Alex was a condom/pill baby, and synthetic progesterone makes my depression unmanageable. Basically if the IUD makes my periods this heavy, I'm worried that sterilisation will do the same thing, which only really leaves the option of the big V or abstinence Any thoughts?

Queen of Cups, why don't you try a diaphraghm?

Amy, I've known a few Owens and generally, they've all been nice kids. Can I throw Llew/Lleu and Llewellyn out for your consideration, though, if you're thinking Welsh?

Spughy, I always feel guilty about stealing holly from parks. I'm lifting mine from the woods at the bottom of the field. I got short-changed on sloes this year, so I figure it's justified.
Oh, did I mention that I got an allotment? Lots of fun hours spent breaking my back digging over the plot. We're going to build some raised beds, I think, to cut down on the digging next year.

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Diaphragms are much less effective after vaginal births, the effectiveness rate drops to about 70%. I am incredibly fertile (got pregnant both times within 20 days of starting TTC), there's no way I could enjoy myself with those stats!

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Basically if the IUD makes my periods this heavy, I'm worried that sterilisation will do the same thing,
Helen, how long has it been now? I think in most cases, with the Mirena, periods tend to get lighter and then can even go away completely, but that can take 6-12 months. Mine got *very* light within about 4 months, I think.

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Amy, I've known a few Owens and generally, they've all been nice kids. Can I throw Llew/Lleu and Llewellyn out for your consideration, though, if you're thinking Welsh?
It's funny - we didn't mean to go Welsh specifically, but I was thinking last night during one of my bouts of insomnia that it is kind of cool that Brynn and Owen are both Welsh. I think we've narrowed it down to either Nolen, Owen, or Nathan at this point; my strong preference is Owen, especially considering it was the first name that organically came to me during this pregnancy (this baby felt like Owen!). At that time, I just ruled it out because I thought it was becoming too popular, but now I'm not seeing that so much. Since Jason also likes it, I think it will be easy for us to both agree on it.

Speaking of insomnia, I got about 4 broken hours of sleep last night. I am dead this morning. It's so frustrating!!

DiD - I love the name you've chosen! It's very sophisticated.

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i am so friggin excited to meet barcelona and queen of cups today! DH is coming with us and we may see his mom as she lives in the next town over. I am still not over her yelling/being manipulative with ez recently. ugh. but i think she may hang with them while i am at barcelona's play. which, i am super stoked about seeing!

spughy- i have heard that IUDs are really easy to remove. i bet you could remove it yourself, even.

amy- i like owen for your kid.

helen- sorry to hear about such heavy periods. what about NFP for you?

DID- i really like that name! we know a lucian and he is precious.

awaken- next year, seriously come join us! that way, we'll have awesome food, fun for the kids and it can be part of our DDC round the world meet up!

you holly thieves are making me laugh. i want to drag the trees from the woods around my house just to use as firewood but i have never actually done it. everytime i see a fallen tree, i wonder if i could get it in the jeep for firewood.

i am going to take a shower, pack some dipes and snacks then walk with my neighbor in the cold with our kids for a short while before leaving. what a fun day!

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Gunter, NFP is what led to me having the coil put in. We were gambling on withdrawal and DH forgot : PLUS I hate condoms. I ended up taking the morning after pill AND having the coil inserted, I freaked out so much.

Amy, I've only done two full cycles with the thing in; it's a copper one, not Mirena. I'm going to give it four full cycles, plus the bonus not pregnant period just after I had it put in. I REALLY want this to work for me because I'm running out of methods of contraception and DH isn't really keen on the idea of a vasectomy. Being honest, I'm probably going to try mirena again as a last-ditch option if this doesn't work, but that's not an idea that appeals.

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It's the cervical cap that is less effective after giving birth, not the diaphragm. But the diaphragm plus spermicide still isn't hugely effective- around 85% (and might I mention, not very effective at all if you leave it in it's case). I wasn't thrilled with the diaphragm because it rubbed a little in certain positions. Let's send out to the universe that there is a lovely group of women here that would like to see some new contraceptive methods...

Amy, we haven't settled on any names yet. It's not a big deal to us, just an evolving conversation that happens through the pregnancy. I "try out" names by thinking about them for a couple of days, then seeing how they sit with me. Last time we only started writing things down in the last month or so, and chose our top boy and girl choices during labour. But we still waited to meet her to decide if the names were right. I get the sense that having an un-named baby is a bit stressful for you?

I'm having a lovely day here- after working all weekend, I had yesterday and today as my days off. Yesterday Neela and I spent a nice day together, and today she went to daycare as usual and I'm having a day at home alone. I went swimming, wandered around the art supply store choosing papers for our annual Christmas book/poem, and have a nap and some housework slated for the afternoon. Last night Matt and I made a linocut of a pomegranate to block print on the cover of the book, and tonight we're going to be refining the design and printing them.

I hope you're having a wonderful day, Qofc, gunter and barcelona!!!

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I'd want to go for the copper if I did, since its good for 10 years and hormone free. But then there's also the fact that I have endometriosis and I wonder if it would just make it worse. Any words of wisdom or advice?
Our family doctor has said a number of times that she has never personally known a woman who ended up liking their copper IUD. She said that in her practice and others around town there is about a 70% removal rate within about the first year.

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I get the sense that having an un-named baby is a bit stressful for you?
Heh - does it show? Yes, I don't know why. My pregnancy journal is pages and pages of angst about baby names! But (drum-roll please) I think we are like 99.9% settled on Owen so I can stop bugging y'all about it now! Yay!

Mel, your cards sound beautiful! So crafty and special!

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Well I liked my IUD just fine, but it's gone now and I'm ready to accept the consequences! Susannah, I had one before I got pregnant with Rowan, and it was great - it saved our early relationship because I have pretty much the same issues as Helen.

Gunter, I don't think I could have removed it myself because my doctor had a heck of a time finding the strings. Rowan played nurse - she had her 3-year checkup at the same time - and she was so sweet, holding my hand saying "It's ok mama, I'm right here" while I was all "OW you're poking my cervix!" Our doctor is really cool and didn't mind Rowan watching over her shoulder (or under, as was probably the case).

So the IUD's gone, no real trauma, Rowan is a completely healthy and developmentally appropriate 3-year-old (38" and 29 lbs if anyone's keeping track - 75th and 40th percentiles, I think? but the doc said she's getting new, better WHO charts within a year and Rowan will be closer to average on those.) I love our doctor - she does a very practical "developmental" exam by asking kids to take off their shoes and put them by the door. If they can manage that (assuming relatively easy shoes) and ask for further instruction if necessary, they're all good, and the kid doesn't even notice that she was examined! Rowan took off her shoes, then asked "Do you mean here beside my mama's shoes?" and then aligned them very carefully beside mine. After that it was all height, weight, eyes & ears and did I have any concerns? nope? good, let's haul out that IUD. Oh and she did the stethoscope things too, which Rowan found pretty entertaining.

Oh Helen - I just noticed you said coil? I had a t-shaped IUD, I don't know if that makes a difference, but I never had any excess bleeding issues, even in the first month after insertion. Oh, wait, I got it inserted about a year before my period came back. Nevermind.

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Heh - does it show?
You did start a thread about names as soon as our DDC opened up, have posted there regularly, plus started a couple of spin-off threads and polls

A potty-learning question for everyone... Neela has been out of diapers during the day consistently for about a year, and very few accidents since the Spring (as in I can't remember the last one...). When she came out of day time diapers, I quit using cloth since we were doing coin-op laundry and it cost more to wash one or two diapers than just to use sposies.

So we've been using a diaper at night ever since, though lately she's been arguing about it and telling me she is a big kid and won't pee in her diaper. As long as she's in a decent mood at bedtime, she's pretty good about taking a pee before sleep. She's dry in the morning about 2/3 of the time. Last week we almost ran out of diapers, so used the same one for about three nights in a row. She pointed out to me that she wasn't peeing at night anymore and shouldn't need to wear a diaper.

My biggest issue is that she sleeps on a futon that we can't put a waterproof cover on (and if I put a pad under her she kicks it off the bed during the night). So I negotiated with her that she could start sleeping in her bed (which has a cover on it) during the transition time to no diaper at night. I explained why the bed was easier to clean, and she seemed to get it. She asked for one last night on the futon, and told me she would sleep diaper free on the bed starting tonight.

Last night she was over-tired and grumpy at bedtime, and refused to pee before bed. I put on the diaper as usual, and it was soaked in the morning. Should we still try this? I'm worried that I'm being lazy about the diaper and that it's for my convenience rather than her need. But I really don't want to deal with wet sheets several times a week. And I've occasionally forgotten to put a diaper on and cleaning pee off the futon is a really big pain. Ideas??

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You did start a thread about names as soon as our DDC opened up, have posted there regularly, plus started a couple of spin-off threads and polls
I know - I'm a freak! : And the ironic part is that the name we've finally settled on (after four months of stressing about it (on my part)) is the name that I said I wanted in that very first post back in August! Duh. I should have just stuck with my instincts and saved us all a bunch of annoyance!

Aaaaaaaanyway. As for the potty learning issues, we are right there with you. Brynn is doing the exact same thing. We don't have a mattress protector on our bed, so she has to wear a pull-up if she sleeps with us. The one night that she slept on her mattress without a pull-up, she peed THREE TIMES, so we were up all night. That was a while ago (probably 2 mos) and we haven't tried it again since then. She does wake up dry maybe 1/2 the time, but I'm so not wanting to wake up and have to change pee-pee sheets on the bed, etc. So we're just hanging with the status quo for now. I don't really know what else to do. :

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I was tempted to vote for Calhoun on the name poll on your blog, Amy. Calhoun's is a 24 hour coffee shop in Vancouver where I used to occasionally hang out and study when I was in university. A 24 hour coffee shop that served beer, but only if you also order food. So a cookie (or whatever the cheapest "food" item) and beer it was!

Neela just told me she doesn't want to sleep in the bed. It's filled with stuffed animals and she hasn't slept there in months. So we'll stick with the futon and a diaper for now.

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2 thoughts:

1. I LOVE the name OWEN! I've only ever known 1, and I don't think it's getting too popular at all...just familiar now, which is a good thing, in my book.

2. I am voting for the BIG V for our DH's. I feel like I have given my body enough for our fertility, birth control, pregnancy, labor, nursing, all of that....and I am tired of it being MY responsibility to keep us not pregnant. (and usually only having choices that have health risks, even if they are small, along with them). DH hasn't pushed me or anything, and in fact we are in a agreement that it is time to give my body a break from messing with cycles, hormones and everything, and it is NOT ok for me to have to abstain when I am most interested in sex with NFP.
In short, I will get off my soap box, and am IRL not an over-the-top feminist or anything, but is it just me that finds it fishy that, other than a vasectomy or condom, almost all other forms of birth control fall on women!!?


Lastly, I am totally bummed because I am just starting to get to know you guys, and now I will be MIA for a week. AT&T was supposed to change our DSL plan, and instead accidentally terminated our DSL contract completely. So we are without internet. And, what took one button click to undo, apparently can't be fixed for at least a week! They can't even tell us why it will take a week.

Anyway, I am at Starbucks, paying $3.99 to log on and tell you all that I'll see you in a week.

So, anyway, I may be back before then if I go stir crazy and make a return trip to Starbucks, but, if not, see you in a week!!

Emily
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Hello, ladies! I really should be going to bed right now, but I just had to post about how wonderful it to meet barcelona and Gunter! Finley is just the sweetest little boy, the pictures I've seen of him absolutely capture his sweet spirit! barcelona was getting ready for her show, so I didn't get as much time to hang out with her, but she has a wonderful presence about her. (Killian said his favorite person was her DH, though - he just loved him!) Gunter and her family are all beautiful and full of life and I can see why Gunter is a doula - she has an amazingly giving, encouraging spirit.


Here are the three DDC "babies!"


And here are the three mamas!

It was so much fun meeting up! I hope I have the chance to meet more of you wonderful mamas someday!

Mama to DS (05/04) and DD (11/05), married to a wonderful DH.
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I'm glad your meetup went well, barcelona QofC and Gunter!

I got a call from my sister this evening... my mom is in the hospital. She has some kind of ventricular tachycardia, but they don't know *what* kind. So she has all kinds of things hooked up to her and she's kind of grumpy, and she may end up getting flown out to Vancouver for surgery. She says not to worry but I can't help it. I know that she is otherwise fit and healthy and apparently there's nothing wrong with her arteries or anything but I am still worried.

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First of all . . . Yaaayyy! I have my laptop back!!! Glad though that DH took the extra time to make sure that everything on my harddrive was retrieved and backed up--as they replaced/reformatted it. :

I'm totally jealous of the meet up, Gunter, Q of C and barcelona. I actually considered trying to drive to join you guys and even mapquested it but it's just too far and at an awkward time for me. However, barcelona, since you said that you were going to be in Tenn, let me know where, and I may be able to catch up with you there and definitely you're invited here--not too far from parts of Tenn . . . .

I am still recovering from the Thanksgiving holiday festivities. I don't want to post all the gory details but I'll just say that the dinner was good and this year I brined the turkey and it came out really well. It was still a little stressful because my advance preparing the week before was interrupted and severely slowed by the sprained foot/ankle, but I managed to pull the whole thing off anyway, even if it ended up still being a lot of work and more stressful in some places than it otherwise would have been because stuff got left to the last minute. And my mom was difficult to be around, and my sister got terribly sick, and Ella got really sick, and the kids were really wild, and we ended up having to go and rescue my sister on Sunday after they were about an hour out and drive her part of the way back to MI, which ended up taking far more time than it should have because we got stuck for an hour at a complete standstill on the freeway due to a total closure of the highway due to an accident. So the whole thing ended up with us being on the road (including stops for lunch and dinner) for ten hours!!! So I'm still tired and recovering, and feeling like I'm (hopefully) fighting something off myself.

Meanwhile my dad is scheduled for surgery tomorrow--so I am feeling a bit worried/nervous about that. It's a plastics procedure--they are doing some scar release from the burns and a bit of grafting and reconstruction on part of his face/lip etc. They would normally do it in an outpatient surgery center but because he's a bit more medically complicated they are doing it in the hospital, but hopefully he'll be able to go home and not have to be admitted/stay. Please keep him/us in your thoughts though!

Amy, I like Owen. It was immediately my favorite of all the other names you posted. Especially William--not because I don't like the name, but because it cracked me up imagining you running into your ex-husband sometime, and doing that thing we do of telling your ex how great life is (without him) and how well you are doing (without him), but then telling him that you have a wonderful husband and two lovely children--and then your first born son is named after him! LOL!

Emily--hope you get your internet access back quickly!

Mel--my only idea about the potty situation is offering her the choice that if she doesn't go potty at bedtime, she has to sleep on the bed that has a cover or wear a diaper on the futon. That gives her some choices but keeps your futon dry! Once in a while I make Ella wear a pullup just in case, like if we're sleeping in somebody else's bed, but for the most part she is dry at nights and very rarely has an accident.

Amy--at this point I'd just be glad that Jason didn't get a vasectomy the first time you both insisted you were absolutely done having kids. Otherwise, you wouldn't be having OWEN, you'd be having NO-ONE!! Lol!!

ETA: spughy, I hope things go okay with your mom. Keep us posted!!
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Spughy's mom. Get better soon.

(it is actually a copper T= the RU486, if you want to get specific. Aaargh. I've never wanted my period to come so much just so I can get it over and done with.)

Jenn, gorgeous pictures

Mel, I'd stick with a pullup for bedtimes, maybe look at moving back to cloth (I don't have a problem with washing soaked pee nappies with the main load) so the waste isn't an issue and go with the flow. Both my boys regressed with night-wetting the year they turned 3: when they first came out of nappies they were always, always dry but then it slipped. FWIW, though, we're letting Skye go back to nappies if she wants to because she's flatly refusing to put poos in the potty- I mean, she's done TWO.

Kavita, I hope your dad's surgery goes smoothly tomorrow. : I hadn't realised he was still dealing with the repercussions of the accident- it's hard to believe that's more than three years ago now. Gentle healing vibes to all of you.

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