Would you take your child to the circus? - Mothering Forums

Forum Jump: 
 
Thread Tools
Old 03-23-2003, 06:58 PM - Thread Starter
 
z-girl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Missoula, MT
Posts: 533
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Part of me feels like DD would love it, and part of me feels like circuses are unnatural and cruel. I'm totally torn. What would you do?
z-girl is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 03-23-2003, 07:08 PM
 
Domestic Goddess's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Western Canada
Posts: 462
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I definitely would not take my child to a circus w/animals. I find it very cruel and inhumane.

But I would take him to Cirque de Soleil (no animals).
Domestic Goddess is offline  
Old 03-23-2003, 07:17 PM
 
mama2annabelle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: florida
Posts: 688
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
No way!!! You're absolutely right, circuses ARE unnatural and cruel. There are plenty of other fun things you can do with your child. Please don't support such blatent cruelty. Doing so will be like tellig your daughter that this is acceptable and fun behavior. These animals are NOT treated kindly and do not do those stupid tricks b/c they enjoy it. They do it out of fear. Your gut has told you not to go, please listen to your instincts.
mama2annabelle is offline  
Old 03-23-2003, 07:22 PM - Thread Starter
 
z-girl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Missoula, MT
Posts: 533
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Ok, thanks, that's what I needed to hear. I know that it's wrong, but I kinda felt like I was being a stick in the mud. I'd be thrilled if Cirque de Soliel came here!
z-girl is offline  
Old 03-23-2003, 08:47 PM
 
K&JsMaMa's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Utopia
Posts: 871
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Nope, no circus goers here. Way unnatural and cruel.
K&JsMaMa is offline  
Old 03-23-2003, 08:53 PM
 
Chelly2003's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: SUNNY San Diego
Posts: 1,641
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I don't go to the circus, and sometimes feel guilty even going to the zoo. (a friend of mine won't ever set her foot in the zoo) but at least the animals are not abused at the zoo, and its the only time my son will probably see any of them in the flesh....
Chelly
Chelly2003 is offline  
Old 03-23-2003, 09:18 PM
 
Christi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Home again in Iowa
Posts: 704
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I went to a circus in Italy and I hated it. The girl who I went with also hated it. They treat the animals so badly. I will never go to one again
Christi is offline  
Old 03-23-2003, 09:31 PM
 
sunmountain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: in a log cabin with Jamie Fraser
Posts: 2,657
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
nope, we won't go either, for the same reasons given above, in fact, I have NEVER been to a circus (I'm 32!). Our zoo is very humane and small, we love it there.

Cirque is coming here next month, I would LOVE to see that.
sunmountain is offline  
Old 03-23-2003, 09:49 PM
 
Pynki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Inside the café au lait
Posts: 7,265
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I went to the Barnum and Bailey circus when i was like 5 years old.. I remember feeling bad for the animals.. They weren't being mean to them in anyway a 5 year old would underrstand, but i felt they were somehow being humiliated.. So even little kids get it..

I don't thnk we wil ever take our boys..

Warm Squishy Feelings...

Dyan

It's lonely being the only XX in a house of XYs.
Pynki is offline  
Old 03-23-2003, 10:49 PM - Thread Starter
 
z-girl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Missoula, MT
Posts: 533
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks for all of the support/advice on this. Yeah, we've only been to one zoo (in San Diego) and even that felt strange. I'll be proud for DD to grow up knowing that we don't think that circuses are humane. She's already an animal lover at almost 2, so I think it will make sense to her. I just really wanted to check in and make sure that I wasn't being unreasonable.
z-girl is offline  
Old 03-23-2003, 11:58 PM
Banned
 
somemama's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,592
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
The B and B circus is INCREDIBLY loud. NOT worth the money. Then they jack up the food prices, too.
somemama is offline  
Old 03-24-2003, 12:16 AM
 
LavenderMae's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: where I write my own posts!
Posts: 12,213
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I would never take my kids. They are so cruel and just wrong.

OUR DAUGHTERS ARE PROTECTED SHOULDN'T OUR SONS BE TOO! :
LavenderMae is offline  
Old 03-24-2003, 12:20 AM
 
khrisday's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: High Desert of California
Posts: 3,913
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
We have gone to a small, family owned, animal free circus the last few years. It is really incredible (and WAY less expensive than Circue d Expensivel)and the kids love it. We just moved, and I am not sure if this circus will be performing in our new town yet, but I hope so!
khrisday is offline  
Old 03-24-2003, 12:36 AM
 
Irishmommy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: In the bat cave with heartmama
Posts: 45,457
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I have once. We were given free tickets and so we went. The kids did enjoy it, but it won't exactly happen again if I have any say.

We do go to the zoo.
Irishmommy is offline  
Old 03-24-2003, 12:42 AM
 
Missgrl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: zipping around MDC
Posts: 7,535
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
No circus here either
Moving this to the childhood years
Missgrl is offline  
Old 03-24-2003, 02:23 AM
 
mojomom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: learning some life lessons
Posts: 1,046
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Before we had kids we went with a group of friends to a circus not B&B another one a russian one forget the name,anyway they had this act with bears that stood on their hine legs and wore tutus and did these tricks it was the most unatural thing I have ever seen. I am not one given to public displays of emotion but this freaked me out so much I started to cry and a girl we were with was crying too we had to get up and leave. It was like from as far away as we were sitiing you could tell the bears were miserable. I vowed never to go again. We took dd to cirgue last year. She is 5 and some parts kinda scared her a little it is not scary per say but they dim the lights eary music comes on the guy comes out he does not talk I think it was just a little much for her. Just aheads up if you have children who are kinda sensitive to that stuff maybe keep that in mind. We should have let her watch the specials on Bravo first, then got her feeling for it.
mojomom is offline  
Old 03-24-2003, 02:46 AM
 
Greaseball's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Eugene, OR
Posts: 8,570
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
I wouldn't take her because I am creeped out by clowns and wouldn't want my dd to be exposed to them.

www.ihateclowns.com
Greaseball is offline  
Old 03-24-2003, 03:03 AM
 
sunmountain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: in a log cabin with Jamie Fraser
Posts: 2,657
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
oooooooo...greaseball...I hate clowns too :sinister
sunmountain is offline  
Old 03-24-2003, 01:40 PM
 
owensmom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: watching Dr. Horrible
Posts: 640
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Never never never to the circus!!!! AcK! We did compromise our ethics yesterday and took ds to the zoo. We still feel bad about it, although he loved it (he is 14 months and loves animals so much). We thought rather than make in an absolute "NO!" type thing that will just make him want to go more when he is older (it is like the thing to do around here with your kids), we would try to educate him on the animals, and help him realize that our 4 goats have more room to roam then the 4 elephants pacing back and forth....
owensmom is offline  
Old 03-24-2003, 03:46 PM
 
amma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 71
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I feel the same way as you guys about taking my child to human performing circus rather than a animal based. Humans seem to have much more rights. I used to really enjoy the big cats in the circus when I was a child. I really love animals, and so does my son. We watch discovery channel but some day I would like to take him on safari where the animals don't live in captivity.... wouldn't it be great?
amma is offline  
Old 03-24-2003, 11:35 PM
 
Chelly2003's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: SUNNY San Diego
Posts: 1,641
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally posted by amma
We watch discovery channel but some day I would like to take him on safari where the animals don't live in captivity.... wouldn't it be great?
My Dh and I went to South Africa and stayed in the Kruger national park for our honeymoon....... I took my son to africa when he was 2, and to a different game park (Mpongo Park) for one day. He got to see all kinds of animals, and even a baby chimp that grabbed and held his hand! (Awwwwwww)

We'll go again!! in a heartbeat.......
Chelly
Chelly2003 is offline  
Old 03-25-2003, 10:07 AM
 
girlsaplenty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 65
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Ditto to what everyone's said about performing animals.

How old is your dd? My husband and I saw Cirque de Soleil last year and while we enjoyed it, it was very dark, and parts of it were intense. I would not take my children (ages 6, 4, and 2) because some of the costumes, lighting, amd other effects would be too scary.

My children have watched a Cirque video from the library, though. On the small screen in our well-lighted family room it was fine.
Diana
girlsaplenty is offline  
Old 03-25-2003, 05:29 PM
 
LunaMom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: orbiting the earth
Posts: 2,380
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
No circuses with animals for us. Seeing animals exploited in that way really upsets me. I do remember loving it as a kid, though, but I didn't know any better!

Dh and I love to watch Cirque on cable, and when dd is older, maybe 8 or 9, we'll take her. It does seem like it may be a little too freaky for a four-year-old (dd's age), plus it is $$$$$$!
LunaMom is offline  
Old 03-27-2003, 11:39 PM
 
TraceyMc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Right on the Mason Dixon
Posts: 115
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
We would never go either. I saw a 20/20 special once on BArnum and Bailey, horrible treatment of the animals.
When I lived in NC-I joined an animal rights group-they were protesting a circus in town. They said the reason the elephants wore the head pieces was to hide the scars from being abused in order to do the tricks. Sickening.
Greaseball-I also hate clowns-I got a laugh out of the website! Thanks!
TraceyMc is offline  
Old 03-28-2003, 03:16 AM
 
Quirky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Princeton, NJ
Posts: 11,770
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally posted by Chelly2003
but at least the animals are not abused at the zoo
It really depends on the zoo. A lot of them a) don't abide by humane standards and b) even the big well-respected zoos sell off their excess/old animals to the crappy mean little zoos.

If the zoo looks like a horrible place to live for an animal - ie cement pen/cage, nothing to do except pace, it probably is horrible for the animal.

It's such a downer....

Come visit the NEW QuirkyBaby website -- earn QB Bucks rewards points for purchases, reviews, referrals, and more! Free US shipping on great brands of baby slings and carriers and FREE BabyLegs or babywearing mirror on orders of $100+. Take the QB Quiz for personalized advice!

Quirky is offline  
Old 03-28-2003, 03:36 AM
 
lilyka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Sioux Falls, SD
Posts: 17,896
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
No we don't. I was torn for a while but they do really treat the animals badly. also I hate clowns. period.

as for the zoo, I don't know about zoos nation wide but most of the animals at our zoo are part of the species survival plan and are there for purposes of increasing the population and a lot are injured and unable to survive in the wild (these two groups make up 50%-75% of exhibits) The rest are more or less dmestic and farm animals. Kinda silly to see them in the zoo but whatever. Also our zoo is pretty good about keeping mommy's and babies together. Which is nice.

The truest answer to violence is love. The truest answer to death is life. The only prevention for violence is for the heart to have no violence within it.  We cannot prevent evil through any system devised by mankind. But we can grapple with evil and defeat it, but only with love—real love.

lilyka is offline  
Old 03-28-2003, 11:10 AM
 
LunaMom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: orbiting the earth
Posts: 2,380
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Yes, our zoo is more of a wildlife preservation park, too. They also keep mamas and babies together. The last time we were there, we got to see a mama gorilla nursing her baby! My dd loved that and told everyone who could hear that her mommy fed her that way, too!!!
LunaMom is offline  
Old 03-30-2003, 08:47 AM
 
Funkeemonkey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: NZ
Posts: 61
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
nup! Why take them to a circus when you live in one.
Funkeemonkey is offline  
Old 03-30-2003, 10:13 AM
 
Ruth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: A big city in a big state
Posts: 448
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
My 5-year-old has never been to a circus or a zoo. We do take her to a wildlife preserve often, where she can see giraffes and zebras and deer nursing their babies.

We have taken her to a tiger rescue shelter, where a wonderful woman rescues tigers from stupid people who think tigers would make a good pet.

We have taken her to a bird sanctuary to drop off a little bird that fell out of a nest. We couldn't find the nest so we took the bird to a "bird lady" who sent it to the sanctuary. She cried because she missed the bird so much so we took her to the bird sanctuary to visit the bird. She still writes letters to Pogli.

I understand that in Houston, Texas, the Barnum & Bailey circus travels to the city, everybody gets arrested, they spend the night and jail and go on to the next city. This happens every year, supposedly. I never confirmed the story.

I LOVED the circus as a little girl but I think it was mostly because it was a fun family event and we got to spend money (we even got a toy!). But we sat so high up in the bleachers that we really couldn't see anything, probably why I couldn't see the cruelty.
Ruth is offline  
Old 04-01-2003, 03:38 AM
 
tlc4tots's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: San Luis Obispo, CA
Posts: 55
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I'm so glad I found this. I felt like I was denying our child of a "childhood experience", but it just didn't feel right to go to a circus with animals. Isn't it funny how things have changed since we were kids.
tlc4tots is offline  
 
User Tag List

Thread Tools


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off