Part of the reason I think is that I've been sleeping later. Normally, I would get up at 9:30 or so and DS would hear me and get up. I've started working late evenings and sleeping till 10:30 or 11. DF has always been a night owl and would sleep till 2 if I let him. In the past, DS would knock at my door when he woke and I'd get up. Now I think he just goes back to sleep till he hears me get up.
How can I get DS on a more normal sleep schedule without making him insanely cranky for a week?
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I would decide what time you want him to get up, and what time you want him to go to bed. Then I'd get him up at that time the next day, I'd have a full day planned with tiring activities and excursions and outings, I'd have a quiet time in the middle of the day (like, lunch at noon and after lunch, then have a rock with mummy in the rocking chair while listening to a story) and if he goes to sleep then, I'd let him sleep for an hour or so. And then he'd go to bed at the time you want him to, but he'll probably need you to lay with him, or put a DVD on for him to watch (I know a lot of people dislike kids watching TV, etc, but I think in a situation like this it does help them stay still, which then means their body is allowed to rest - watching something massively stimulating is obviously a bad idea, it needs to be something quiet, with nice calming music) or just lay in bed with him, reading him a thousand books until he falls asleep.
Good luck - I know what you're going through, and I know the feeling of "oh but he's asleep, I know he should be awake at this time but he's asleep, I should let him sleep, he must need the sleep if he's still asleep now" etc. He has a decent sleep pattern but it's a little out of whack, that's all. Getting him up earlier, consistently, and having a really tiring day, will help his body clock to adjust a little.
Good luck, I am sure you will find a schedule that works best for the both of you.
He may be in a bad mood for a couple days, but it might help.
Or make it earlier.
Spend a few days doing really physical stuff in the evening, running races or something. Make sure he has dinner early.
My DD is up til midnight or later if she naps at all in the afternoon
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So "normal" is relative to what works for your family.I'm not necessarily much help, but sometimes solutions come more easily when we back up from the voice in our head saying, "Good moms have their children in bed before nine PM" "It's unhealthy to be awake until midnight!" and other accepted norms.
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We started shifting her bedtime 1/2 hour earler each week until it was when we wanted it. We found that the time she got up naturally shifted with her bedtime. Now we're all in sync again. It really helps to have a bedtime routine to prepare them to go to bed. Don't just expect to be able to say "Bedtime" and have the kid go to sleep.
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Its like going on vacation, it is what it is, things are crazy and routines get changed you know?? Plan a crazy busy weekend and just get up and go and if he snoozes in the car on the way home, he snoozes, but get him up for dinner and a bath and back down at a reasonable hour to bed and another busy day all day with fun things to do and by that night to bed, I bet a reasonable hour it will be and get him right up the next morning......
and so on, and just weather the tiredness for a few days......
that is, if you really want to do it.....LOL
OR you could just try waking him 15 minutes earlier every day and putting to bed 15 minutes earlier every day until it gets panned out... and Id shorten the nap too.
I always believed the more they sleep the more they sleep, but it seems that after 3 or so the naps can intervene with that theory and make some late nights, you know?
But... if his midnight bedtime is interfering with your work or your private time with your partner or something else, you shouldn't hesitate to change it. Like the others have said, a few days is all it'll take. Just wake him up at 8 or 9am, let him take a short nap around 2, wake him up at three and have lots of stuff to do until 8pm, then a nice bath... some warm milk with honey (or whatever)... a little story... and good night!
I'm not worried because he sleeps ten or eleven hours straight.
Best of luck,