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#151 of 211 Old 11-30-2007, 08:04 AM
 
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O.k., this is probably a really dumb question - but do the playsilks *have* to be colorfast? I dyed some building silks for my dc (using Wilton food colors) - and I think if I threw them into the washing machine I would lose some color (or a lot, depending on the color). When I was rinsing them, at least one - orange - just would not rinse clear. I absolutely love the colors I have, and I don't want to risk losing them.

We have silks that we have had for years (professionally dyed), and I have never washed them. Is it only a problem if they get wet or need to be washed??
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I've dyed some of mine and got some very interesting colors - Iwill have to take pictures and post.

After a run through the washer (I couldn't seem to get the excess out myself) mine are color fast and I had played with some of the gentle bleach from clorox (I had a sample) and it muted some of the colors - it took a purple, from straight grape, and made it a lightish navy color and a lime dyed square went to teal/ turqouis.

I needed mine to be color fast DD is still young enough to mouth everything, the first test silk I gave her (orange) wasn't colorfast - she had dye around her mouth and all over her hands. : This is how I found out that I apparently wasn't getting the excess out.

I've only played with the smaller squares, can't wait to do the bigger ones. I tried to combine colors for a tie dyed look or a transition from one color to another but didn't have any luck, anyone else?

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After a run through the washer (I couldn't seem to get the excess out myself) mine are color fast and I had played with some of the gentle bleach from clorox (I had a sample) and it muted some of the colors - it took a purple, from straight grape, and made it a lightish navy color and a lime dyed square went to teal/ turqouis.
Just a heads up. Sodium hypochlorite(your common household bleach) should not be used on silk. It destroys the silk fiber. So I don't recomend using it to discharge or mute/alter the colors of your silks.

Safer options(for you and your silk!) are hydrogen peroxide or sodium hydrosulfite(i.e. RIT color remover).

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Does the Gentle care (I think that's what it's called) bleach use the same chemical?

I had a sample so I wouldn't have used it except it was around.

But thanks for the heads up - the packaging said that it was gentle anough to use on your silk clothes - I took them at their word - Silly me.

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Looking at their site the Ultimate care gentle bleach is still sodium hypochlorite.

BTW-Do you recall how thick it was? I amalways looking for a better option than electrosal gel to do discharge(color removing) stamping on cottons. This clorox product might fit the bill. Was it the consistancy of say shampoo?

I would also suggest running your silks in a wash with some OxiClean to neutralize the bleach. Despite washing and rinsing sodium hypochlorite can still hang around and continue to eat away fibers slowly unless neutralized.

FYI-don't ever use an acid like vinegar to neutralize bleach. This is a common misconception unfortunately. The reaction between the two chemicals produces chlorine gas. Not so good!

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It was almost as thick as shampoo, I want to say it was a little thinner but not by much. I am trying to compare it in my head - but my shampoo gets poured onto my hand and the bleach went straight into the dispenser. I think that this product was a bit thicker than the clorox 2 color safe, which is thicker than the straight bleach. HTH

According to the company it is thick so it can be placed directly on a stain and not effect any colored portion of your garment that is adjacent

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hi all- dyes a bunch of silks with kool-aid and they all turned out great. EXCEPT the black cherry and raspberry ones. i've been rinsing them for days in cold water and the color keeps bleeding. what did i do wrong? or is that something particular to the red kool-aid dyes? any ideas?

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even though kool-aid has some acid in it - did you use vinegar as well? i did with mine and i have had bleeding after the intial rinse and washer wash

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hi all- dyes a bunch of silks with kool-aid and they all turned out great. EXCEPT the black cherry and raspberry ones. i've been rinsing them for days in cold water and the color keeps bleeding. what did i do wrong? or is that something particular to the red kool-aid dyes? any ideas?

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i had a bunch of trouble with the red as well. i kept rinsing and rinsing- i even washed the darn thing on cold in the washing machine- and just finnally gave up. i looked into it and it seems that silks take dyes a little differently than wool does and red is one of the colors that gets funky w/ ka. if i did it again i would probably try using a pinch of red procion dye and a bunch of vineger!
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oh, fwiw, we still use our *red* playsilk and it doesn't bleed or do anything funny- it's just not quite red.
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I finally dyed some silks! Pictures are here on my blog and include the normal Kool-Aid colors plus a pretty blue one that I dyed with plain old food coloring. I used a LOT of white vinegar in the pre-soak and didn't have any issues with rinsing, they all rinsed clear within minutes. Very vibrant colors! Such a great and easy project.
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Here's a question I don't think has been covered in this thread (nothing came up when I searched)

How do you make a playsilk that looks like blue sky with fluffy clouds?
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Here's a question I don't think has been covered in this thread (nothing came up when I searched)

How do you make a playsilk that looks like blue sky with fluffy clouds?
The ones that I have seen have been "painted" that way. What was done is the silk has either been laid on a flat surface or stretched on a frame
(a large embroidery hoop would work too). A resistis then painted on to outline the area of the clouds. Fyi Elmers gel glue is a simple and easy to obtain resist. After the resist has dried the dye is then painted on.

When you have finished and the silk has dried steam it on the stove top to set the dye. Do not us the microve b/c your silk is dry and will go up in flames(or just singe real nice!)

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Could I ask a couple questions just to be sure I do this right? If I'm dyeing with Kool-aid, do I pre-soak the silk in vinegar AND use vinegar while I'm heating the silks in the kool-aid and water? Then rinse with cool water to get the excess color out? Just want to make sure I do it right to ensure color-fastness.

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Several of you have had trouble with certain colors not being color fast... I would have to guess that your water is hard. Try adding a water softener to your soak. That should help.

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I ordered my silks from Thai silks. I'm going to dye them with the cake decorating dyes everyone's talking about.

I have 2 questions.

1. Can you make black? Is there a cake decorating color for that?

2. I have a natural wool outfit for dd. Her name is Violet and I really want to dye it purple! I was going to use food coloring. But I keep reading and seeing how muddy the purple is when using food coloring. I would like to use food coloring dyes. HOW DO I DYE WOOL? I can't shock it (temp wise) and make it shrink!!!!

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I ordered my silks from Thai silks. I'm going to dye them with the cake decorating dyes everyone's talking about.

I have 2 questions.

1. Can you make black? Is there a cake decorating color for that?

2. I have a natural wool outfit for dd. Her name is Violet and I really want to dye it purple! I was going to use food coloring. But I keep reading and seeing how muddy the purple is when using food coloring. I would like to use food coloring dyes. HOW DO I DYE WOOL? I can't shock it (temp wise) and make it shrink!!!!

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I can only help with your first question -
I have a black wiltons cake icing dye so they do make it, but when I used it on a cake (white frosting) it took alot to make it really black, in the end it was a very dark grey. and to me is seamed to have a very purplish hue, but maybe I was being critical. Everyone who saw the cake wondered how I got the black frosting.

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I can only help with your first question -
I have a black wiltons cake icing dye so they do make it, but when I used it on a cake (white frosting) it took alot to make it really black, in the end it was a very dark grey. and to me is seamed to have a very purplish hue, but maybe I was being critical. Everyone who saw the cake wondered how I got the black frosting.
OT...but, just for future use. Start with chocolate frosting. A little tip they taught us at a cake decorating class, when starting with brown you're almost there anyway. Works great. Or, if you don't need a ton, I think they sell black in a tube. If I remember right the taste is odd, so not if you were using a lot maybe?
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this is prob. not helpful, but I got black playsilks from Dharma.

I don`t remember if they cost more than the white.
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I haven't read all the replies yet, but if it hasn't been mentione yet if you want really vibrant yellow use tumeric it works great. I dyed some random scraps of fabric once for my kids to play with and it turned out lovely.

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Can someone tell me exactly which silks they are ordering from either Thai silks or Dharma trading? THere are so many types to choose from and I want to get the right ones for playsilks. THanks!
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When I've ordered silk blanks in the past from Thai Silks, I've ordered these (usually in the 36"x36" size). I've also ordered the dyed ones which are the same 8mm Habotai silk in the 36" square size. For $6.25 they are the cheapest I have seen and right now they're on sale for $3.60!!! It should be said though that I don't know what exactly they use to dye them.
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thanks guys


Is there a difference between the China Silk and Habotai Silk? I ordered China Silk from ThaiSilks
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Here's a question I don't think has been covered in this thread (nothing came up when I searched)

How do you make a playsilk that looks like blue sky with fluffy clouds?
Thanks for the idea! I just made a play silk like this and it was SO EASY! I dyed the silk in a pan of blue dye, just like normally. But I used a wide skillet, filled it up only 2 or 3 inches and used a few tiny metal cups and measuring cups, a whisk, anything I could find that was about the size of a lemon and would stick out of the top of the water about an inch. Then I carefully laid the silk on top and the white cloud parts were kept out of the water, while the rest got dye blue. I stirred and jiggled the parts that were going to be blue so that there were any weird wrinkle marks dyed into the silk. A few times throughout the simmering, I also spread out any fold or wrinkled on the sides of my clouds while it was soaking in the hot water. It turned out great! I will post pictures. I also took a picture of how I laid in the skillet.

The first one I made was great and I ruined it, because I decided that I wanted to paint a blue outline around each cloud, then had a huge ut oh, and the blue was just to dark and didn't look as realistic as before. With my first try, I folded the the silk in 1/2 then I laid it in the skillet. The second time, I folded in it 1/2 and then in 1/2 again, there were way more clouds, but there are missing clouds all along the center fold. And the center fold had a bit of a weird tie dye look where dye wasn't able to get to the area as much. So I just dipped that area is blue again for a few second and it was fixed. The 2nd time around, I will either just fold it once and use more measuring cups on my skillet for more clouds, OR fold it in 1/2 and in 1/2 again, but just make sure to jiggle plenty of dye in the folder area, and make sure I've placed clouds close to the fold so I don't get empty sky.

THEN my perfect second cloud silk was finished, I laid it to dry and noticed that I laid it on a few smudges of green dye! I know that bleach rots silk fibers... But I took an old tooth brush and some Comet cleanser and scrubbed the little dots and they are completely gone!! Then I rinsed the comet out. yay!

I also did 2 rainbow silks. (I suggest doing this first before your kitchen turns to mayhem) I put red on my front burner and orange on my back, I pushed the pans close together then put the end in red, and the section net to it in orange. Then I did it with yellow and green, blue and purple I did 2 silks at a time. Might as well.




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I have been dying all weekend and thought I would post a tip when using the Wilton Dyes. The first couple of ones I did had spots on them which i finally realized was because the dye wasn't completely dissolved.

I started using a strainer to strain out the leftover chunks. I strain it two times and do not have any chunks left in the dye.
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MtBikeLover, that's a great tip! I noiced that too. I was using a jar and shaking it, but there were still a few chunks.

Here are pictures of my silks! My rainbow silks, tiger silk and cloud silk, plus a picture showing how to dye the cloud silk! A lot of the silks are bigger, but they are folded in the pictures. I'm very proud of them. Next time I will use larger silks, and I am in need of some reds, deep purples, and yellows.
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What's a good dye to make a spring green (light and bright)? I tried green Kool-Aid once and the green was not a good color (grayish and dull). Is there a good Wilton's for this? Or can I use food coloring?
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Lady - I'd get the wilton's 12 pack of colors. I found them at michaels. I used the 40% off coupon that comes in their weekly ad from the Sunday Newspaper.

I'd mix the green and light yellow. Then trying to make spring green, I noticed that the green overpowers the yellow, so use just a bit. I ended up using too much yellow on my first try and the silk came out like a golden with a hint of green. weird.
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Here are pictures of my silks!
Your silks are beautiful!! I especially loved the cloud one!
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I have been dye-ing Dharma silks with Koolaid, but some of the colors are coming out spotted. What am I doing wrong?

On the stovetop I added 5 packets of red to about 6 quarts of water and dyed about 5 silks. I love the color variation but some are spotted.

In the microwave I added 3 packets of blue to 4 cups of almost boiling water, but it came out really blotchy.

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hmmm...
I just got done browsing this thread and am wondering if regular food coloring will work...or do I need the Wilton's brand specifically?

I have "McCormick food colors & egg dye" they are the tiny vials of liquid dye...what do ya think?
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