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When knitting a striped item with circular needles, how do you avoid the "jog" that the colors make at the end of the round?

I KNOW I've seen this information (or a link to it) on this forum before, and I can't figure out what combination of search terms will bring it up for me.

I did a striped, circularly knit poncho for dd a couple of years ago, but the stitch pattern completely took care of the jog. Now, I'm making matching gauntlets (in k1 p1 ribbing) and I don't like how the jog looks.

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There is a "jogless jog" that you can do. I don't have a link, but I"m sure you could google and find something. I tried it once and it was more of a pain than anything. Now, I just weave the ends in diagonally to make the jog less noticeable.
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Take a look here. I'm not sure I pick up the right stitch but I know mine is looking much better since I started doing this:

http://www.socknitters.com/kickback/joglessjog.htm

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It's definitely a jogless join that you want. I also tie my ends together in a square knot and that helps a great deal - just pull the knot out before you weave your ends in. The jogless join does cause a little bit of a bump on the wrong side because of it's structure, but since you are already going to have a bit of bulk from the ends being woven in, it doesn't make that much of a difference.
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Here is another one:

http://knitchy.blogsome.com/2005/10/...ed-jogless-jog

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Check out the yarn harlot's blog. I know I saw a tip in one of her books. I'll see if I can find it and post again, but she might have it up on her blog somewhere.

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Thanks, everyone. I especially like the technique that does not require that the "seam" travel diagonally across the project - very nice.

I'll be trying this tomorrow!

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WOW!

Okay, see, that's where knitting-know-how trumps math. Ages ago I pointed out the jog in my various tube-based toys to my mathematician husband and asked, "There's no way around that, is there?" And he said no, because mathematically round knitting is a continuous spiral so there can't be a break in the spiral short of switching sides and then you're not knitting round anymore.

So I've always searched out patterns that have a definite dead line in them (i.e. a line all the way up in the main colour) so I could position that at the jog point, which makes the jog invisible.

But of course that won't work for very integrated patterns, so THANK YOU for asking the question and THANK YOU BIG TIME to all of the nice people who answered!

I feel so...liberated!

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WOW!

Okay, see, that's where knitting-know-how trumps math. Ages ago I pointed out the jog in my various tube-based toys to my mathematician husband and asked, "There's no way around that, is there?" And he said no, because mathematically round knitting is a continuous spiral so there can't be a break in the spiral short of switching sides and then you're not knitting round anymore.
This is true. The jogless jog only makes the break less noticeable, doesn't eliminate it alltogether. What it does is to pull the stitch from the row below up onto the current row, so that one stitch at the color-change point is elongated. This means you can only do the jogless jog when you have stripes of two rows or more.

If you look closely, no matter how well you execute the maneuver, you can still see where the change occurs, but if you do it well, it's only because of that one stitch that is stretched, not b/c of the jog in colors.

Can you tell I make a lot of striped items ITR?
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I don't do a lot of stripes but I use my DPNs all the time, so jogs are inevitable. It won't help on the Little Dudes, even with multiple rows, I think, because they're too small. But I don't care for them as much as for bigger stuff anyway.

It might make my knitted rings even better, so when I finally get around to whipping up some to make a tutorial, I'll experiment with this as an option to avoid that jog...which at the moment I just semi-hide in the centre of the ring where it's less noticeable.

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Help me understand one thing... I'm currently working on a striped scarf in the round for DH that has a jog at every color change. I understand the directions except for the part that reads,
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"The beginning of the round has now moved one stitch to the left."
(from the first link above).

So - does that mean that I should place the marker I'm using to mark the beginning of the round there? I should move it one stitch to the left?

I don't think I'll bother for this project as it's almost done. I'd just like to know for future projects.

Thanks!
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