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Hi Mamas,
I was reading the interesting conversation about pipes and bongs and what not and was wondering I am the only one (DH too) on here who feels like bongs and pipes are works of art? We collect pieces that have cost us upward of $400 for a bong, although that was in our wilder, child free days.
Hi Lauren! I have a Boobah, too! She's a Boobah Doll ('boobah' is Hebrew for 'doll', which is how she got the nickname-- she looked like a toy when she was born ). I do think that bongs and pipes are works of art, but I have nothing in the way of disposable income and don't ever have friends over to smoke, so a bong seems terrifically impractical to me.

It's just shy of 9:00 in the morning. I've been in two arguments, and raised my voice four times already. This is the sort of morning that just screams for a bowl. It's not like I can just avoid the kids all day just because I'm ticked off and premenstrual.

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Welcome to the tribe Ldavis24! Im not a medically needed smoker neither, a couple of us just enjoy smoking as well. I completely agree with your hobby for collecting bongs/pipes, some are absolutely amazing and intricate. I think novelty pipes are cute and funny, and even people's homemade pipes/bongs can crack me up. Im trying to get my mom to use mj too, she has sleeping problems and I think it will help alot, I think ill have to sneak it in some brownies lol.

Muldey, its too bad your going through such a process for your benefits. I think your right though, medicate with mj and keep your meds going and see how to can possibly cut back. I know that balance can be delicate, you feel great and cut your meds back then it makes you worse and your back to square one in finding the right dose.


I love the idea of emailing Marc or Jody..I just dont know what we could say, but we represent a big mj culture niche, the mama's!

Movnmama, I had no idea it was legal in Alaska, must be lovely not having to worry about getting "caught"! I know for alot of people mj can trigger and escalate anxiety, I wouldnt say its for everyone, but thank you for coming on board for the activism

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It's just shy of 9:00 in the morning. I've been in two arguments, and raised my voice four times already. This is the sort of morning that just screams for a bowl. It's not like I can just avoid the kids all day just because I'm ticked off and premenstrual.

aww, is there a nap time coming up so you can go to your "zen place"?

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aww, is there a nap time coming up so you can go to your "zen place"?
Only the baby naps, and only when his siblings aren't interfering with the process. Today is probably going to be napless.

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I gotta say, I just love how this summer thread has taken off! I've never had such a hard time keeping up with it until now--loving all the "newbies" here. It's so great to have so many points of view from so many different places!

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So what do you set yours at? I've read on other discussion boards that herb vaporizes at 180 or something?? I can't remember... It was a thread about making Green Dragon, and ppl were debating about heating the herb first...

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Uh, mine doesn't have numbers, it just has a "sweet spot" on the dial. DH did all the research so I don't know what kind it is (and he would not be happy if he knew I was talking about his on the Internets!). I have just noticed, that although I find it psychologically satisfying to vape at higher temps and see a little smoke, the buzz is better when there is no smoke, just a touch of vapor exhale from the lower temps.
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Ha, I told my Dh about Alaska and he is all ready to move up there. Actually it's been a secret fantasy of mine for different reasons. I absolutely cannot stand the heat during summer. Even here in New England and wouldn't mind if it was cold or cooler all year round. Sigh, dreams...

Eilonwy I had no idea boobah was hebrew for doll!! I don't even know how we started that nickname with her...I think it was because I was calling her Della Doobie all the time (do i smoke weed or what) and then DH said we should try to at least make it not pot related so we both started calling her boobah.

I wish I could say I had the expendable income for collecting any new pipes or beautiful pieces. We haven't bought a new one in a long long time, although we are going to Gathering of the Vibes next weekend and maybe will splurge a little there if we see something special.

Canadianhippie, I too have considered just sneaking something to my mom but her partner is really anti-marijuana in general and I would love to avoid the major fight that would ensue..I just feel so bad for my mom, she is miserable with pain some days and I know it would help her she just laughs it off when I suggest it. I am wondering if there are any good studies relating to arthritis and MJ use for pain management? Something to google I suppose.

Hmm I was thinking about the people who get anxiety from using MJ...I have quit periodically in my life for several months at a time because I would get what I call "the fear" which is just utter paranoia that someone would catch me and I would "get in trouble" whatever that meant. What I did figure out and maybe someone has experienced this too, is that my "fear" is directly related to the kind of bud I am smoking, some different strains just bring out the anxiety in me. Although that hasn't happened in ages, now it is just about the only thing that relieves my stress on a daily basis
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If ever I have enough on hand to make some budder, I will definitely try to make something for my mother. Of course, I would NEVER EVER EVER sneak her something without her knowledge. We've discussed it and she's certainly amenable to trying it for her health issues, she's just unable (and unwilling) to smoke. She's also a type II diabetic, so brownies wouldn't go over well (and just as importantly they would be an irresistible temptation for my niece, who could eat the better part of a pan of brownies before she was even conscious of doing it ).

That is something I wanted to ask about, though. Has anyone used budder or something similar in a non-carbohydrate-based food? It's not just the sugar in brownies but the flour which would cause problems, and she has enough trouble regulating her blood sugar under normal circumstances that I would be very uncomfortable trying to help her sort out what was high/low blood sugar and what was the normal effect of herb.

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You can put the budder on anything you would put butter on.

To be perfectly honest, I like to drop a chunk in my hot coffee, which is totally weird and I do not suggest anyone try it, but I like it. I like the herby heavyness, but it makes DH want to barf. I keep it frozen an break off a piece when I want it.

I was going to suggest budder on mashed potatoes, but that is also carby.
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You could try it in tea...there's lots of recipes for it on the internet, I tried it once when I was really sick and I didn't even want to vape bc my throat hurt so bad. It was gross, but I used left over vap, so good bud prob wouldn't be that bad. Some ppl say you can steep it directly in the tea for a long time and mix the tea w/milk or cream for the fat.
That's a good idea to freeze it and just use when you need it

So recently mj has been my magic sleep aid...I've always used it if i wake during the night, but, recently i've been waking in the middle of the night almost every night and can't sleep. So I sneak into the living rm and smoke until I hear LO fussing (he has a very hard time sleeping w/o me).
I really don't know how I'd sleep if it wasn't for it. Every eve after DS goes down I love to hang out w/DH, smoke, and eat dinner. That gets me so sleepy and I go right to bed
The bad news is that the batch we have pretty much makes me sleepy anytime I smoke it. I have noticed, though, if I don't eat it makes me much less tired, does this happen to anyone else? It's like smoking+eating=sleepy

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You could try it in tea...there's lots of recipes for it on the internet, I tried it once when I was really sick and I didn't even want to vape bc my throat hurt so bad. It was gross, but I used left over vap, so good bud prob wouldn't be that bad. Some ppl say you can steep it directly in the tea for a long time and mix the tea w/milk or cream for the fat.
That's a good idea to freeze it and just use when you need it

So recently mj has been my magic sleep aid...I've always used it if i wake during the night, but, recently i've been waking in the middle of the night almost every night and can't sleep. So I sneak into the living rm and smoke until I hear LO fussing (he has a very hard time sleeping w/o me).
I really don't know how I'd sleep if it wasn't for it. Every eve after DS goes down I love to hang out w/DH, smoke, and eat dinner. That gets me so sleepy and I go right to bed
The bad news is that the batch we have pretty much makes me sleepy anytime I smoke it. I have noticed, though, if I don't eat it makes me much less tired, does this happen to anyone else? It's like smoking+eating=sleepy
That sounds exactly like what we do.
Baby goes to sleep, I sneak away from bed (we co-sleep) smoke with DH, relax and watch movie or something, then later take the dog for a walk and smoke right before bedtime for the grownups!

I find the when I smoke and eat I completely want to pass out, although it does depend on the mj we are smoking. Sometimes we just get some that literally sucks all the energy out of my bones and I can barely pull myself off my butt. Not my favorite to use because I really don't want to feel that way every time I smoke, just some of the time!
smoking+eating+eating+eating=sleepy....If i can not go crazy on the munchie scale I tend to be less tired.
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smoking+eating+eating+eating=sleepy....If i can not go crazy on the munchie scale I tend to be less tired.

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It doesn't make me sleepy at all, really. Relaxed yes, but as a sleep aid it doesn't work at all for me. Then again, I suffer from very severe insomnia.

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It doesn't make me sleepy at all, really. Relaxed yes, but as a sleep aid it doesn't work at all for me. Then again, I suffer from very severe insomnia.
that must be especially annoying when it works so well for a lot of people!

I don't have trouble sleeping but I tend to have extreme dreams/nightmares on almost a nightly basis and I find that if I smoke right before I go to sleep it allows me to have dreamless (or at least I don't remember them or have lucid dreams) sleep for a good portion of the night. It is so helpful to me in that way.
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DH says the same about the dreams; he never remembers his dreams (he smokes all the time) but says when he hasn't had any he always remembers them, weird.

I do remember, maybe it was the spring thread, that someone said you can tell the kind of high you'll get by the color of the weed. she said that red hairs means a tired high and our weed totally has red in it! I wish I had a card (and lived in a "friendly" state) so I could have a couple different kinds at once depending on what I need it for. Someday...

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I do remember, maybe it was the spring thread, that someone said you can tell the kind of high you'll get by the color of the weed.
That's so interesting, I've always wondered about that! I'd like to hear more. I'm fascinated by weed science. Okay, I'm fascinated by *all* science, but putting science and herb together combines two of my favorite things.

The dream thing is interesting; I find that my dreams are, if anything, more lucid when I go to bed high. Maybe my brain is just backwards... It definitely reduces the chance of nightmares, though-- I have fabulously happy dreams on the green stuff.

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Here's the page, from Chirp on #106...wonder whatever happened to chirp, she had lots of good info it seems. Anyway, it's interesting, I keep meaning to look it up, but of course i don't have much choice in what i buy/smoke anyway. Someday when we buy a house i'll def try growing my own
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BTW: I'm sure at least some of you know me. Or have spotted me around the boards. I'm the resident trouble maker and MDC's token gay man.

Pot for me is recreation most of the time, but it also helps keep me off of prozac as I have OCD and depressive episodes. Been smoking for about 10 years maybe, and I live in an area of the world (and country) where no one really cares who enjoys weed now and then.

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If ever I have enough on hand to make some budder, I will definitely try to make something for my mother. Of course, I would NEVER EVER EVER sneak her something without her knowledge. We've discussed it and she's certainly amenable to trying it for her health issues, she's just unable (and unwilling) to smoke. She's also a type II diabetic, so brownies wouldn't go over well (and just as importantly they would be an irresistible temptation for my niece, who could eat the better part of a pan of brownies before she was even conscious of doing it ).

That is something I wanted to ask about, though. Has anyone used budder or something similar in a non-carbohydrate-based food? It's not just the sugar in brownies but the flour which would cause problems, and she has enough trouble regulating her blood sugar under normal circumstances that I would be very uncomfortable trying to help her sort out what was high/low blood sugar and what was the normal effect of herb.

we're making an olive oil infusion this time around...this way i can have heady salad dressing!!!

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BTW: I'm sure at least some of you know me. Or have spotted me around the boards. I'm the resident trouble maker and MDC's token gay man.

Pot for me is recreation most of the time, but it also helps keep me off of prozac as I have OCD and depressive episodes. Been smoking for about 10 years maybe, and I live in an area of the world (and country) where no one really cares who enjoys weed now and then.
I wouldn't say you are a trouble maker...I seem to recall myself agreeing numerous posts you have made. Honestly if it was between prozac and smoking to help me out I would take smoking any day of the week, then again I do take it every day of the week pretty much so I guess it wouldn't make a difference to me.

D I saw that discussion and had been following it. I am always interested in that type of discussion in the teen forum, you can always be sure to see some major over-reaction in some way. It never fails. Then again my attitude toward the whole thing is definitely skewed and I always get super annoyed when someone brings up the whole "gateway drug" thing. If that was even true I think there would be a lot a lot more crack addicts running around considering how many people in the world reguarly smoke mj or at least have tried it a few times...Sigh ignorance

I have never considered using olive oil?! that sounds intriguing. I personally am a huge fan of the mj frosting which I have made a cake with before. the problem with that is that the whole cake usually never lasts more than a day!
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we're making an olive oil infusion this time around...this way i can have heady salad dressing!!!
:doh Of course! I actually used olive oil the first time I cooked the resin out of my pipes. I don't use salad dressing (I like my vegetables to taste like vegetables ) which is why I didn't think of it, but my mom does so that would be perfect.

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we're making an olive oil infusion this time around...this way i can have heady salad dressing!!!


sounds yummy!! Care to share your recipe, pleeease?

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:doh Of course! I actually used olive oil the first time I cooked the resin out of my pipes. I don't use salad dressing (I like my vegetables to taste like vegetables ) which is why I didn't think of it, but my mom does so that would be perfect.
How did you do this? I never thought of it, always just scraped the resin and cleaned my pieces in alcohol.

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I don't have any kids. (Currently pregnant)

I don't know that I would have much of a problem with kids being into pot, except for the illegality of it. I know it doesn't agree with a lot of people, so I would never encourage someone to do it who doesn't like it, but I truly feel that except for the inhaling burning matter, and the fact that it is intoxicating so you shouldn't smoke before driving or chainsawing, there isn't a damn thing wrong with pot.

I actually spoke with a guy (I work in research) who has been studying the effects of mj on the brain for 20 years. Funded by the government agencies, to find out harmful things about it. He says in 20 years of studying chronic teen smokers, people currently high, people who have smoked most of their lives, they cannot find anything bad it does to you. And keep in mind he gets his money to do this from the very people who want to find evidence to support the drug war! He said he would rather his kids (adults now) smoke pot than alcohol any day.

If I had a kid today, and he or she was smoking, I would have a very very serious talk about how serious it is to get busted, but really that is the only problem with pot that I have.
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Pot is illegal because it's bad for you and bad for you because it's illegal. Or so I've been told. It's just really hard to argue with that logic because the people who use it don't see the flaw screaming at you from the most basic phrasing of their logic.

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ITA, papa. I really do. We might as well not even try.

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I have a question here for anyone with small children/babies.
How do you handle MJ around your LO? Do you only partake when they are asleep? Do you go to sleep after partaking and co-sleep with your LO? I ask because I grapple with occasional bouts of guilt about being a terrible mom because DH and I will smoke outside while DD is napping and then she will wake up and we'll play and hang out with her like normal. I mean, we aren't blowing smoke rings in DD's face by any means and we NEVER ever smoke inside the house even when it is raining but I feel like some people would be horrified and outraged at what we do. I never drive high, I don't even like to go anywhere at all high just hang out at home but I still get this guilt. So how do you handle it around your LO? I am curious because if people are smoking/vaping/eating mj every day here at some point you must be high around your kid right?
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We have family close by, all of whom love our kids and who our kids love, so more often than not DS and DD are staying with my mom or dad when we smoke. If they are home, it's never before bed since DS does sleep with us still. I have been high around the kids, but then I have also been on Prozac around the kids which has in the past put me in a state of sever drowsiness. Pot's never done that. I don't have to worry that my mind will be too fogged with the need for sleep to appropriately attend to my children.

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I co-sleep and usually smoke before bed. We do it after he's in bed and I stay up, smoke, eat, watch TV and then usually bed. We never have stuff strong enough that lasts very long and, although it helps me sleep, it doesn't put me in a deep sleep. I wake up at every sound he makes and many times when he makes no sound...I awake a lot during the night (I've suffered from mild insomnia off and on for years) and will sometimes go into the living rm to take a puff.
We do smoke in the house, but if DS is around I vap and DH goes in another rm (doesn't like to vap).

I've done so much research and heard from so many others that I don't feel guilty. Sometimes I really think I can take care of him better when high on days that he's fussy all day, but I rarely do during the day anyway. If I ever felt unconfident about caring for him or saw any change in him from when i smoke (for breastfeeding purposes) I wouldn't do it. So many ppl drink a glass or two of wine in the eve and I don't think this is much different, if not better

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