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#181 of 699 Old 01-28-2009, 06:22 PM
 
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I'm here.
after several years of trying my darndest to trade catholicism for wicca, I've just decided to go with my gut.

I'm an atheist who really digs and honors the planet. Well hell, the whole universe for that matter.

both of my parents died in 2008 and for the life of me, I want so badly to cling to a belief system that promises me that they are still somehow around me and that I will see them again someday. Try as I may, I really don't believe it.

I feel relief in acknowledging my atheism. Just because I don't believe in god, or gods, or goddesses doesn't mean I'm not connected with all life here on Earth, and I can celebrate that.

nice to meet everyone here.
Susana-- I am so WITH you. I was never christian but the pagan world has always been so tempting, but I always come back to just not believing (one could argue one could be an atheist pagan, I think, but when one tries to find other pagans they usually are all into Athena or somebody and it just turns me off).

That is so brave of you to acknowledge your unmet hopes! And yes! yes! yes!

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It's like that here, as well. I can't even find current events books written by "liberal" authors. All teh Rush and Ann you can devour, but that's it.
Same here....grrrrr for living in FUNDIEVILLE

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Theoretica, is it possible to request that your library purchase the book you are looking for? The library I went to before we moved had a process through which patrons could request certain materials. I don't know if they needed a certain number of requests for th same item before they'd get it, but you could always call and ask your library if they have a system set up for requests.
I asked them that, they said I could put in a request for a specific title but then it is 'reviewed' by the 'board' so as to determine the 'best usage of available funds'. That was when I said ohh it's a MONEY thing, well I'll buy 'em from Amazon and donate 'em to ya...there's ZERO atheist books to be found here. She says Ummmm well, you see, donated books are ummm reviewed by the Librarian God (she said the lady's name, I'm blank LOL) and if there isn't a need for that particular book they are sold at the book sale.

grrrrrrrrrrr.........:::

Hmmm. I'm betting my chances of getting atheist books are zilch around here. Amazon here I come! LOLOL

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Yep, my personal library has been receiving regular monthly Amazon shipments...my husband just sighs....
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So I'm curious about the library thing... It's hard for me to imagine a public library having only religious parenting books. So I have to ask if it mattered how you did the search. Was it a computer database search or were you looking at the shelf? It's not that I don't believe you, I am surprised and would like to better understand.

Thanks for your patience.
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So I'm curious about the library thing... It's hard for me to imagine a public library having only religious parenting books
Imagine a rural southern town. One where linchings are a not-so-distant-memory. One where The Catcher In The Rye was banned for a few decades (perhaps still). If you don't go to church, you must be a criminal.

I can certainly imagine no atheist books at their public library. Hopefully they have the ability to "interlibrary loan" them from somewhere near or far. Hopefully they believe in freedom of expression and speach. But I wouldn't count on it.
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Susana-- I am so WITH you. I was never christian but the pagan world has always been so tempting, but I always come back to just not believing (one could argue one could be an atheist pagan, I think, but when one tries to find other pagans they usually are all into Athena or somebody and it just turns me off).

That is so brave of you to acknowledge your unmet hopes! And yes! yes! yes!

Peace Susana!
Thank you, elizamm!
I like the term atheist pagan, but I know what you say is true...my pagan friends tell me it's not possible to be both atheist *and* pagan.
But what else would you call a nature lover who doesn't believe in a supernatural higher power?
I'll probably just stick with that.."nature lover who doesn't believe in a supernatural higher power", though it is kinda long!!
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So I'm curious about the library thing... It's hard for me to imagine a public library having only religious parenting books. So I have to ask if it mattered how you did the search. Was it a computer database search or were you looking at the shelf? It's not that I don't believe you, I am surprised and would like to better understand.

Thanks for your patience.
I did both, at the two area libraries. They aren't connected to one another because technically they are in two different towns, but the towns run into each other if that makes sense. I searched the shelves AND the computer database. I used every term imagineable. The terms "atheist", "humanism", "atheism", and "secular" all came up "yielding no results". I'm really familiar with Dewey so I do know where to look lol

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Imagine a rural southern town. One where linchings are a not-so-distant-memory. One where The Catcher In The Rye was banned for a few decades (perhaps still). If you don't go to church, you must be a criminal. I can certainly imagine no atheist books at their public library. Hopefully they have the ability to "interlibrary loan" them from somewhere near or far. Hopefully they believe in freedom of expression and speach. But I wouldn't count on it.
I'm not in the south (although I am FROM the south LOL) but I'm in a city/town that is predominantly and overwhelmingly Christian and white or hispanic. We sometimes go to a UU church on the other side of town, a whopping 100 people are there on a VERY busy Sunday, and they have their own library of 30 books...all very old....about humanism and atheism, primarily regarding science. But that's it. I don't mind donating books to them, it's just preaching to the choir-if you'll excuse the blatant pun LOL! It is interesting because the FIRST thing people ask you when they meet you is "what church do you go to". It's one of the reasons we joined the uu, so we could 'have a church' and DD could have friends we don't seriously disagree with.

While they don't ban books per se, they are extraordinarily selective about what 'gets in'. But without seeming that way. If that makes any sense LOL

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Thank you, elizamm!
I like the term atheist pagan, but I know what you say is true...my pagan friends tell me it's not possible to be both atheist *and* pagan.
But what else would you call a nature lover who doesn't believe in a supernatural higher power?
I'll probably just stick with that.."nature lover who doesn't believe in a supernatural higher power", though it is kinda long!!
I feel the EXACT same way! I have always been fascinated with paganism, even as a 'christian', and I really enjoy the appreciation and reverence of nature. But there isn't a god/goddess making spells work anymore than there's a god answering prayers. So, while it's easier in some respects to be 'in the pagan world' than 'in the xtian world', and we really incorporate a LOT of pagan traditions into our family...we don't do 'rituals' or 'spell casting' or 'magick' or anything because it's just not any different than what any other mainstream religion does...asking some supernatural force to intervene in life for their personal benefit.

Because of DH's Korean heritage we incorporate a lot of Buddhism into our lives as well, and that I can do without reservation because Buddhism doesn't adhere to any theistic belief that requires worship/praise/whatever.

So we're weird. We're pagan-esque, we're buddhist, we're atheist. LOLOL

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Hello, all! I can't recall if I've ever posted on this thread-- I usually just lurk.

If you'll indulge me, I wanted to share an amusing anecdote. There aren't too many people in my life who would find godless kid-talk funny.

My ds12 has been "reading the Bible" for the past few weeks, at "The Brick Testament" website. It's Bible verses, illustrated with Legos-- hilarious, btw.

My ds4 is very into mythology right now. He'll ask "Please tell me more myths about Yaweh!" The other day, he saw a rainbow and yelled "Look, it's Yaweh's promise!" [God shows Noah a rainbow as a sign that he'll never flood the earth and kill everything again]

It's funny to me that my atheist kids are more interested in the Bible than any of the Christian kids we know!

Another anecdote-- this one my friend's son. One day when he was 5, he came home from school and said "Mommy, my teacher has an imaginary friend named Jesus!"
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Another anecdote-- this one my friend's son. One day when he was 5, he came home from school and said "Mommy, my teacher has an imaginary friend named Jesus!"


Reminds me of the quote by Lily Tomlin and I have to paraphrase it, Why is it that if you talk to god you're praying but if god talks to you you're crazy?
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It's funny to me that my atheist kids are more interested in the Bible than any of the Christian kids we know!
That is so true. Education and curiosity foster knowledge. Forced beliefs tend to foster resentment or lack of interest.

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Another anecdote-- this one my friend's son. One day when he was 5, he came home from school and said "Mommy, my teacher has an imaginary friend named Jesus!"

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Hi gang! Glad to find you all.

Here's a question for you. How do you deal with your religious family? Do they know you don't believe or do you pretend and say noncommittal "mmmms" and "ohhhhs" when the conversation turns to god? Do you feel like you would be causing them pain and anguish if they knew you were an athiest? Worried your soul and those of your children are going to suffer eternal damnation?

I am dealing with this with my mother and father. I just don't know the best way to go. In the past I've just gone along with them, but now I;m a mom I feel more strongly about not pretending to be something I am not. I want to be true to myself and be a good example for my daughter, but I also don't want to hurt and/or let down my parents...
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I don't entertain my family's religious assumptions. BUT out of respect for their fragile little feelings, I also don't straight out talk about my lack of religion. If they ever asked me, or wanted to pretend for a second to have a genuine interest in what I do (or don't, as it were) believe in and why, I wouldn't hesitate to give them the low down.
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I don't entertain my family's religious assumptions. BUT out of respect for their fragile little feelings, I also don't straight out talk about my lack of religion. If they ever asked me, or wanted to pretend for a second to have a genuine interest in what I do (or don't, as it were) believe in and why, I wouldn't hesitate to give them the low down.
On this note...specifically the 'fragile little feelings' part....

Why is it that folks who adhere fervently to religion are so damn sensitive about it? I mean, if they are so sure, why do atheists bother them so much?

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My mom knows, she just refuses to talk about it. I don't think my dad knows, but he's not particularly religious and I can't foresee him talking about god. I don't know if my fundie sister knows, if she does she doesn't talk about it. Not much help, but there ya go...

We were up to see MIL last weekend and she asked when the baby was getting baptised. Um, you'll have to ask your son about that one... She's just worried that the baby will go to hell if something happens to him He's a frickin' BABY who's never done anything wrong. My mom's pulled that too, "I'm just afraid for your soul..." Gee, well then, sign me right up for that religion that punishes you with hell if you don't believe! Does this actually make sense to people?

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On this note...specifically the 'fragile little feelings' part....

Why is it that folks who adhere fervently to religion are so damn sensitive about it? I mean, if they are so sure, why do atheists bother them so much?
Seriously! I don't get defensive when someone offers me a conflicting point of view. I either a.) know I'm right so screw 'em or b.) am not 100% sure I'm right so I listen.

I'm sure they are bothered by us b/c they have no evidence to prove their beliefs and therefore rely on other people believing to validate their own beliefs. Whew...that was a mouthful. But if a rational person tells them that, "hey, I don't buy your sky fairy business" then that suggests to them that there's a chance they may be wrong.

But...FWIW, I have christian friends who are NOT threatened by me and I am able to have intelligent conversation regarding faith with them...although it always ends in "we agree to disagree".
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I'm lucky in that my parents are atheists, themselves (well, my mother might lean toward agnostic, from time to time).

Beyond my immediate family (all atheists), only my grandmothers ever talk to me about religion. One grandmother, I don't see often enough that it's ever really come up. She'll mention something Xian here and there in a letter, but that's about it. So, I've never really had occasion to discuss it with her.

My other grandmother is 95 and would worry about my soul (and my son's soul) if she knew, so I go ahead and pretend, as does the little one. She doesn't need that stress. Being 95 is stress enough for her (she's not taking old age very well). I don't want to cause her any additional worry, whatsoever, if I can help it. I mostly do the "noncommittal 'mmmms' and 'ohhhhs'" thing whenever she brings it up (which is becoming more and more often as she gets older).

Aunts/uncles/cousins just never talk about it. I'm sure they all assume I'm Xian, since I've never had occasion to tell them one way or another.

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Hi, all.

What a great forum! I did a search on the Internet for agnostic moms groups in my area (thinking 'yea right, a non-religious moms group in CHARLESTON, SC? no way') and, while I didn't find a local non-religious moms group, at least I found this. Very cool!

My husband and I are both agnostic and feel VERY out-of-place here in SC. The friends we have made are all very nice people, but believe so differently than us (them: conservative, Christian, republican. us: liberal, agnostic - and, if we had to choose a 'party,' would be 'democrats', for sure). I get tired of the Christian, Republican -- especially anti-Obama pre-election emails -- sent by friends. After one such email recently received, I decided I REALLY would like to see if there are more like-minded moms out there I could connect with (in our area would be GREAT, to possibly meet up with, playdates, etc.). But, if it's just this forum, I'm completely content with that too. It's nice to know we're not alone!
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What a great forum! I did a search on the Internet for agnostic moms groups in my area (thinking 'yea right, a non-religious moms group in CHARLESTON, SC? no way') and, while I didn't find a local non-religious moms group, at least I found this. Very cool!

My husband and I are both agnostic and feel VERY out-of-place here in SC. The friends we have made are all very nice people, but believe so differently than us (them: conservative, Christian, republican. us: liberal, agnostic - and, if we had to choose a 'party,' would be 'democrats', for sure). I get tired of the Christian, Republican -- especially anti-Obama pre-election emails -- sent by friends. After one such email recently received, I decided I REALLY would like to see if there are more like-minded moms out there I could connect with (in our area would be GREAT, to possibly meet up with, playdates, etc.). But, if it's just this forum, I'm completely content with that too. It's nice to know we're not alone!
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no time to read through the entire thread right now, so subbing!

my dh and I consider ourselves anti-theists (though we're tolerant of other viewpoints, of course ) but our 7 year old son is going through a christian phase and I needed you guys for support and advice! be back later to roll around in your wisdom!!

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hi hi fellow atheist and agnostic mdcers

listen to this if you will...

so, now that my parents are both dead I have been thinking about what is left of them now. and all I can truly believe is that their physical bodies are in boxes inside waterproof vaults and they are decomposing. I don't think their souls are out in the universe bopping around waiting for another chance to come back as someone else, and I don't think they are with my grandmas and grandpas and dogs who have passed away in some spirit world. I just think their spirits are gone and their bodies are decomposing.

I know this isn't a fluffy feel-good way to look at it to most people but I'm all right with it.

My question is, why do other people in my life want to debate me on this? I got a comment on my blog tonight regarding *energy can't be created or destroyed* and so therefore my parents' spirits are out there somewhere.
well, you know, I don't think so. I think their spirits were inventions of their brains which are now dead.

why do people need to try to convince me otherwise?
It's sorta frustrating. I think I won't even respond to the comment. I don't feel like acknowledging it.

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My question is, why do other people in my life want to debate me on this? I got a comment on my blog tonight regarding *energy can't be created or destroyed* and so therefore my parents' spirits are out there somewhere.
Well....I'm a strong atheist, and I still believe that energy can't be created or destroyed. The thing is, I don't believe in spirits or souls. I think that the energy that drives me will just dissipate back into the universe when I die. The energy is still energy....it just moves along, and gets recycled into something else. Maybe bits of my energy will eventually reach the sun, and other bits will help bring life to a kitten, and yet others will make ocean currents. Science rocks.

As for other people wanting to debate you, it's because they can't admit that their beliefs are just that....BELIEFS. They have convinced themselves that their beliefs are factual, can't imagine that anyone would disagree, and become upset and offended when someone dares to challenge what they cling to. It's like trying to take a security blanket away from a 3yo.

My opinion, however, is that if you post your thoughts on public forums, you're inviting critics. So I think that if you don't want people to comment or argue with you, maybe you should keep those things private.
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My opinion, however, is that if you post your thoughts on public forums, you're inviting critics. So I think that if you don't want people to comment or argue with you, maybe you should keep those things private.
you're right. If I'm going to tell everyone who reads my blog what I think then I am opening my junk up for other's opinions of it. I need to work on my "who cares what you think" attitude.
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after a trip to the library to find books on religions of the world for my son, I was happy to find many that treat them all equally, and provide just the facts about each religion, what people get from them, etc, but does anyone know of any literature for kids that is written for atheist families? I would love to find a book that details (though not too much detail, he's only 7) the origins of all the different major religions, how they have been steered politically, etc... does this book exist?

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Hey, I wanna join this tribe! My story: My dm is Church of God, my df is Methodist, so I went to both churches every week as a kid (my parents are still together, and they both go to both churches). At 16 I realized I didn't believe in god and used every excuse to avoid church. This didn't work, so I finally told my mom that I just didn't believe in god anymore... well, that didn't go as I hoped, and my mom said: either you go to church or you don't go anywhere else. No way I was stayin home at 16, so I sat thru church and became resentful toward the church and my mom. : I've somewhat dealt with that.

Now, I'm an agnostic/humanist/somethin-er-other and married to a fundamentalist Christian who worries for my soul... long story how that happened... might tell it sometime, if I can stop lurking and start posting! My family and my ils are fundamental xians. My family doesn't talk religion to me, but my mil talks religion all the time... for my dh's sake I've not been upfront about my beliefs, but now that I'm a mom, that can't last much longer. Whew, I think that sums it up. Awful lonely here in the bible belt, so I'm glad to be here!
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Just wanted to say a quick "hi" - Joined a few weeks ago.
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