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#1 of 698 Old 07-19-2006, 06:02 PM - Thread Starter
 
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Welcome to the new atheist tribe!

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Well shoot. Now I can't even remember who all was in the tribe before. Anyone up for a roll call? No need to comment at length, just say "here."
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Hi all,
I don't post much but wanted to say Hi from another atheist. I guess I don't have enough posts to enter the religious studies forum.
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After discussions with many members we decided to remove some posts that were User Agreement violations and return this thread again. We would like the discussion to continue here and ask that members keep the discussion on topic.

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And I'm here. Not much else to say.
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I wasn't in the tribe before but I came looking for a place to discuss my most recent problem. Can't do it tonight, I'm too tired.
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I'm here. So, what are all my atheist sisters doing today? We have to go town. The fridge that came with this house is ridiculously small so we're going to check out someone selling a fridge for $40. To have as a second fridge. I'd love a nice new big stainless steel fridge but there's no $$ right now for that big of a purchase.

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Subbing...we're UUs, but this thread speaks to me...

So in the 'everyday life as an atheist' vein....

Is anyone in the thick of vacation bible school country? How do you respond when that topic comes up on the playground. We live in a more conservative area and my kids aren't school age yet, but this has come up quite a few times. I toe the line between wanting to be polite and being more honest, given how well the 'not a christian' thing goes over on a message board. I'm not guessing that RL is any more tactful.

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Subbing...we're UUs, but this thread speaks to me...

So in the 'everyday life as an atheist' vein....

Is anyone in the thick of vacation bible school country? How do you respond when that topic comes up on the playground. We live in a more conservative area and my kids aren't school age yet, but this has come up quite a few times. I toe the line between wanting to be polite and being more honest, given how well the 'not a christian' thing goes over on a message board. I'm not guessing that RL is any more tactful.
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I'm here! Before the thread got taken down, there was a discussion started about what to teach your kids to say when someone sneezes (as many of our tribe are understandably uncomfortable with "god bless you.") I didn't get a chance to read all the responses and I need ideas!

Mods, I hope this is ok to post here and not the reason the thread got removed in the first place.

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Gesundheit. Basically, it's German for 'good health'. I never heard anyone say 'bless you' after a sneeze until I was in my teens.
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Subbing...we're UUs, but this thread speaks to me...

So in the 'everyday life as an atheist' vein....

Is anyone in the thick of vacation bible school country? How do you respond when that topic comes up on the playground. We live in a more conservative area and my kids aren't school age yet, but this has come up quite a few times. I toe the line between wanting to be polite and being more honest, given how well the 'not a christian' thing goes over on a message board. I'm not guessing that RL is any more tactful.

Well, this year, a person I don't even know drove up while we were out playing and invited my kids (by way of asking me) to VBS for the following week. She went into a little of what goes on and said it was being run at the Lutheran church but all the churches in town were doing it together. We have 3 churches, Lutheran, Methodist, and Catholic in a town of about 300. I was caught a bit off guard so I thanked her and said we'd think about it. And I seriously thought about it. We haven't lived here long and I thought it might be a good way for my kids to meet other kids their age that live around here. But in the end I decided starting a play group might be the better way to accomplish that.

If I was at the playground and a parent asked me if my kids were going to VBS, I could go a number of ways on that one. A simple "no" is probably my gut reaction. If the person persisted, I might say "we're not religious" or "my husband had a bad VBS experience, he doesn't wan our kids going." Which is true.
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Gesundheit. Basically, it's German for 'good health'. I never heard anyone say 'bless you' after a sneeze until I was in my teens.
I say "salud" which is Spanish for health, or I say "bleh-shoe" which is what I thought people were saying when they blessed me when I was little.
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I'm here... I can't believe we're back. Naked, but back.

As for sneezing, I say "Bless you." Heck, I figger I can bless anyone I want! I've got the power
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As for sneezing, I say "Bless you." Heck, I figger I can bless anyone I want! I've got the power
That's what I do, too! I figger the same thing
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Is anyone in the thick of vacation bible school country? How do you respond when that topic comes up on the playground. We live in a more conservative area and my kids aren't school age yet, but this has come up quite a few times.
this is one reason we joined a UU church. We actually go to UU "vacation church camp" (suusi - southeastern unitarian universalist summer institute) - leaving in a week.

In addition to the community and religious education and all the other stuff we get from our church, we also get (some) protection from all the churchy types in our area trying to convert my kids...

You know the attributes for a great adult? Initiative, creativity, intellectual curiosity? They make for a helluva kid...
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I'm here! went to join in on the last thread and it was locked (pm'd the mod and got the answer as to why)

Glad it's back!!

Btw...we also say "salud" or "bless you", mostly salud tho (thought about this when my first was a baby...and stuck w/ it all these years)


Oh..I'm also about to change my user name...so I'll update the new one when I do
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Glad to find this thread. I have been having similar experiences with VBS, etc. Sometimes it feels like everyone in our neighborhood and our Irish Dance community is involved in church activities. I don't know why I always have that weird feeling inside when someone mentions it. Partly it's because my oldest had a lot of pressure from friends at school last year about not going to church and we had many discussions way past bedtime because she was so stressed about it. I wish I'd looked for a thread like this for support when all of that was going on. We live in the south and it seems like when you meet someone the first thing they do is ask you where you go to church. I already feel judged half the time because I have large tattoos on my arms. Then I give the whole "we don't go to church" statement. I just don't want my daughters to be treated badly for our decisions, KWIM?

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I say "bless you" because it's culturally ingrained. I am always a little startled when someone says "god bless you" because I don't think of it that way.

Nick is too young for VBS (I think?) but we did have to deal with why he doesn't go to Sunday school, since all the other kids his age at daycare not only go to Sunday school weekly but go to the same church. I blamed our DJ company for keeping us up too late on Saturday nights. : I'm always afraid to say "because god is pretend" when it might affect my kid.
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You have a DJ business? I'm a DJ, the kind on the radio, but I used to do some weddings, dances, etc when I was younger. I usually am on the air on Sunday so I have used that as an excuse before ;-)

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Thanks for the VBS thoughts. I also have gotten excluded from conversations at gym class as well.

Voicegrrl---what you said about not wanted your kids to be treated badly for your decisions resonated.

more to say, but small people thwart me...

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About the VBS thing. If it is an evangelist at the door, "no thank you we are atheists and don't plan on converting". If it is someone at playgroup, "no, we have enough going on, thanks."

Now that I dyed my hair purple and told everyone I know IRL we are atheists, VBS comes up surprisingly little.
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The two things:

Sneezing: We say "Bless you" but we mean it in a general, "Hope you're okay"-type way. I'm not creative enough to come up with something and "Gesundheit" always made me feel weird growing up b/c I came from a German family and felt like everyone was critiquing my pronunciation if I used it.

VBS: I just say, "No." but we're not in a thick bible belt here. We have a lot of "Christmas Christians" in our area that do VBS b/c their children's friends are doing it etc.... Quite often VBS is a one-day thing even so it's really not a big deal. We do know one family that will occasionally invite us to some function at their church (the un-Halloween party) but we just politely decline. It was hard when my kids were little because they thought they were being invited to a Halloween party and were upset when they found out I said no (the invites would inevitably come home with them from school). So now I just explain - "No, it's a religious instead-of-Halloween party" and they're okay.

Just an aside - the mom from the family that gives us invites once asked me, "So how *did* you name your children? They are such religious names!" (they are pretty traditional names which yes, just happen to be found in the bible). Sigh. I was a little taken aback because I felt like she was saying, "How did you manage to get that right at least?" but I answered, "Oh, we just liked the sound of them.".

More wordy than I imagined. Sorry!
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I say "GROSS!"

just kiddin'- I don't really say anything because I don't like it when people say "bless you" to me...
I dislike the whole idea of "blessing". I guess I could say "oh, I hope you're not getting sick" or something along those lines...but I don't. Is that rude?

I don't feel neglected when people say nothing when I sneeze
People don't say "bless you" when you cough, burp, fart or hiccup...what's so special about sneezing?

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