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Old 09-19-2010, 02:23 PM
 
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My husband and I are expecting our first baby this December. We are choosing not to vaccinate our child and need a pediatrician or family practice doctor in the area (Ann Arbor, MI) who accepts unvaccinated patients.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Our ped is non-vax WILLING but not necessarily a supporter. He is Moore Pediatrics in Chelsea.

Just posting in case you don't find anything else. I couldn't find a ped who was supportive and happy about not vaccinating.
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There are a couple listed on the Dr. Sears website, but I don't have any personal experience with them. Actually, I just came to this forum for a similar purpose looking for a ped

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Bumping this for myself, lol. Also due in December and moving back to Michigan in February. Considering delayed vaccination.

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We moved away about 6 months ago, so I'm not totally "current, up to the minute." But, when we lived in Ypsi, we used Liberty Pediatrics for our son. They weren't supportive of non-vaxing, but kept us as clients although we did not vaccinate at all. They may not be taking new families, though...it's hard to get in there.

I have heard good things about Amanda Kaufman as well (UM Family Medicine at Domino's Farms).

Best wishes on your new LO and finding a supportive provider.

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This seems to be the most recent thread on this topic and I too am in search of a pediatrician or family practitioner in Ann Arbor.  I have 1 1/2 yr. old & am expecting in April.  We are vaccinating on an extended schedule provided by our previous doctor in Chicago.  Everyone has said to go to Liberty Pediatrics as they are willing to be flexible but I haven't found that to be the case.  We were actually told how irresponsible our previous doctor was (for providing the schedule we use) asking if he was a real m.d. and told us the body was meant to handle things like vaccines.  I didn't find them to be accommodating, to listen, and like so many pediatricians these days, came to the table defensive about vaccines.  I'm looking for someone new as we're paying out-of-network for them and so far I've found them to be quick to prescribe and definitely pro vaccine via the AAP's schedule.  The only people who take our insurance would be someone with the Univ. of Michigan practice.  We're going to try Amanda Kaufman, the Integrative Family Practice at U of M and possible John Scheerer.  Dr. Sickels seems great but I called and they're not really set up to be a primary pediatric office and actually they said he's moving more towards working with Cancer patients.  However, they were willing and very nice.  I'll report back.

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AMANDA KAUFMAN!!!! She is amazing, completely and utterly supportive of non-vaxing and is thoughtful, kind, informative and generous with her time. Couldn't be happier with her.


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I really like Dr Kaufman as well, super laid back about vaxing and very generous with her time.


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Okay, just called Dr. Amanda Kaufman's office and upon asking the receptionist on the doctors views on non-vaxing I was told that she is completely vaccine pro and will only do a delayed schedule.....

 

Are you guys all doing the delayed schedule then? Because I'm in need of a doctor who'll see my kids and won't vaccinate period! Is this just the receptionist talking or does the doctor really, as you guys say, not vax?
 

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I'm guessing she simply "used" to be non-vax friendly, but it seems that isn't so any longer. I seriously need help finding a non-vax friendly doctor in MI for my children ASAP!
 

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Don't know how willing you are to travel but we went to see Dr. Alling-Jones at Mott Childrens Health Clinic in Flint.  It is part of the Hurley Children's Clinic.  I was pretty skeptical at first considering we have never had good experiences with doctors.  We do not vax at all.  All they made me do was sign a paper saying we denied vaccinations and there were no hassles or questions about it at all.  She is a younger doctor and seemed very open and accepting of our parenting style.

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I don't think that talking to receptionist is the best way to find out if a provider is right for you and your family. She may indeed be "pro vax", if you were to ask that pointed a question, but she is first and foremost respectful of your wishes and views as a patient (or parent). That is not something that is terribly common in a place like a university healthcare system.

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MumtazG38-Any luck? I'm also looking for a non-vax pediatrician in the same area!

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Well, not especially much luck. However, I'vee been going to Dr. Amanda Kaufmanns office. Haven't seen her yet, as she's booked for the next 4-5 months oddly enough. But, my kids have seen another doctor from her office and I told her straight that I won't be vaccinating. She tried her best to make me change my mind, but I got no other contact regarding the vaccines due for both my kids. So far, I think it's good. But if they try to pressure me, I'll have to go back and re-explain myself. And if that doesn't work, I'll just have to find another doc. So far though, it's working out. No one is bothering me, and the doctor never said anything about not seeing me or my kids because of the non-vaccinating or coming back to vaccinate either. Guess we'll see what happens next. If you want the address or number, just PM me and I'll send it right over.
 

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We're seeing Amanda Kaufmann right now, and let me let you in on a secret:

The office staff SUCKS. They'll lie straight to your face about what your doctor does and does not support, and whether or not they're available at a certain time. That's how my LO almost ended up with a double-dose of Tdap. Mamma went ballistic on that one. You DO have to be on top of paperwork-things as a parent, which I think is part and parcel of the U of M health system. It's so big that the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing, half the time.

However, SHE is wonderful. She doesn't push you one way or the other on vaccines, the vaccines they offer are preservative free, and she actually told us to take our newest and go home because, and I quote, "I'm not giving him a HepB shot today. Why? He doesn't need it, you aren't carriers and he doesn't go to day care. He can come back later if you still want to do it." He was also a home birth, and she did ask if I wanted vitamin K and the eye goop then said, "Oh, nevermind, he's fine." That was the last it was mentioned, and it was probably only brought up because it had to be per policy. She's also VERY pro breastfeeding. Very gentle, will write you a referral for ANYTHING that gives you a concern, spends a ton of time with you, etc etc. Her best day to get in is Friday, and they do make cancellation lists. If there's a day you want, always ask to be put on it. I've never seen a "sub" doctor, either. A resident has sat in with her once, and I told her she was not to touch my son. And Kaufmann made sure all she did was observe.

 

She does give you vaccine information, though. Just roll with it. It's not angry or pushy. She wants you to be informed, even if you're already informed....a better way to put it is, she wants you to be aware of what U of M thinks, even if she already knows it's not what you think. Go in open-minded...or at least, open-foldered, even if it's all going to go in a trash can. I get the feeling she's following hospital policy more than anything she personally believes in, when it comes to explaining the benefits of vaccines and standard medical treatments.

Currently, she's booked through March. I just made follow-ups for my two, so that's the most current schedule info I have. If there's anything else you want to know, feel free to PM me.
 


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I know this is an old thread and I've reached out to a few moms already - but we were re-scheduled from our June 13th 9 month appt to July 10 - only to get a call this week that they needed to reschedule again because Dr Kaufman has left UM. Anyone heard anything similar? Any idea where she has gone?
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I know this is an old thread and I've reached out to a few moms already - but we were re-scheduled from our June 13th 9 month appt to July 10 - only to get a call this week that they needed to reschedule again because Dr Kaufman has left UM. Anyone heard anything similar? Any idea where she has gone?
This is true! She has left and nobody will tell me anything. I am so mad because she was such a wonderful doctor. She has been our family doctor for 10 years and she has been at the clinic for 13 years. I wish I knew what happened or where she went, because she was the only one we liked there. Some of the staff is rude, the other doctors have superiority complexes. If anyone knows where she went please post or if I find out, I will post.
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I believe I have found out where Dr. Kaufman is now working! http://www.ihcpaa.com/index.html They don't yet have her listed as one of the doctors there, but on Linkedin it says she has worked there from 2014-present and this is listed after she worked at U of M. I am calling them on Monday.
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Yes DR.AMANDA KAUFMAN is working at Integrated Healthcare Providers. They also have a Facebook page, here is the addy:https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1439724922953805
PLEASE GO THERE AND "LIKE" THE PAGE!!
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I have been a patient with Dr. Amanda Kaufman for several years now and I cannot recommend her enough! I LOVE HER!! We are an organic, pro-choice, pro-family, and anti-vax family and I have never once not felt supported in my parenting and health care choices with her. She's literally the best! She will work with me on everything from essential oils, homeopaths, to herbs. She is also very familair and is familiar with Beth Barbeau at the Indigo Forest (http://theindigoforest.com/) Center in Ann Arbor, and the types of assistance that Beth can provide.

Mandy (as she goes by), or we call her Dr. Amanda, was the one who took the time to teach me how to nurse my son while we were both lying down so that I wasn't always hurting my back by bending over in a chair. She will work with me and recommend an alternative treatment or for me, or recommend that I go and talk to Beth at Indigo, if we can treat something going on with me naturally instead of going down a pharmaceutical route. She's as crunchy as they come and I love her for our family.

I agree with the comments regarding the staff and policies at U of M where Dr. Kaufman used to work. We had to get in to see her one day and ended up with one of the other doctors who flat out told me that there is nothing they could do for a cold for my sick toddler because we didn't vaccinate. I was livid and had them put on my file that we will NEVER see that doctor again. U of M is also a research and teaching hospital, so I'm sure they have platform policies that they feel their doctors need to adhere to. Personally, this is why I think Dr. Kaufman ended up leaving. She was too crunchy for that type of office, especially compared to her colleagues there that I've had to deal with when she wasn't around.

I've been in contact since July with Dr. Kaufman's new office and here's what I can share that was emailed to me directly from their office staff:

Integrative Healthcare Providers
http://www.ihcpaa.com/
3053 ****** Road
Ann Arbor, MI, 48103
Phone: 734-547-3990
Fax:734-547-3980

Dr. Kaufman is starting to see patients with certain insurance providers, though other insurance companies have not yet approved her for coverage. Below is an update. For those pending, Dr. Kaufman expects approval sometime during September or early October.

BCBS- Active as a specialist; status changes to PCP after Oct 1, 2014

BCN- Active as a specialist; status changes to PCP after Oct 1, 2014

BCN UM Premier Care- Active as a specialist- tier two provider

Medicare-Active

BCN Advantage-Active

Medicare Plus Blue- Active

Aetna/Cofinity-Pending

United Health -Pending

Priority Health-Pending

Hap-Pending

Midwest Medicaid-Pending

Health Plus-Pending

Cigna- Out Of Network

We recommend that everyone verify Dr Kaufman's status with their individual plan before scheduling an appointment. That will also be a great opprutunity to discuss any changes with copays or deductibles that may apply. Please note to provide Dr Kaufman's new address when reviewing your benefits.

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I hope this is helpful and again, I couldn't say enough great things about Dr. Amanda!!!
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The street portion was left out of your address for where Mandy works now. It's ****** RD. And she didn't leave fyi, she was LET GO! I have already had my first appointment with Dr.Kaufman at her new office. It is so relaxing there, and everyone was so friendly. I'm totally changing hospitals too. She isn't associated with one, so I'll just go to the one closest to us.
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So weird it won't show the road so I am typing it backward relliM hope it qoks.
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It worked she is at (relliM ) road the street part is backwards.
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Thanks! Unfortunately it's a $2000 deductible before we can use her. I'm really hoping someone can recommend another doctor in UM's health system that we can go to.

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