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Dh and I are currently not vaxing the kids and Hayden will be entering preschool in the fall. Anyone have experience with what needs to be done as far as vaccine exemptions?

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Here is the form required by maryland:

http://www.edcp.org/pdf/896_form.pdf

Right below the thick black line there is a place that says religious exemption. All you do is sign and date.

Maryland also has a lead testing requirement.

The form required by Maryland is here:
http://www.fha.state.md.us/pdf/mch/M...teDHMH4620.pdf

At the bottom of the box "Certification Information" there is a place to sign for an exemption.

They may give you the form here instead:
http://www.fha.state.md.us/pdf/mch/1215a.pdf

There is no place for a waiver here, so I filled it out except for the health care provider part and attached the certification form that included the portion for a waiver.

We didn't have a problem though. I didn't ask if they offered exemptions, I just filled them out. If they are compliant with maryland requirements they have to accept them. Maryland is luckily straightforward with this.

I didn't have any problems with this.

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Here is the form required by maryland:

http://www.edcp.org/pdf/896_form.pdf

Right below the thick black line there is a place that says religious exemption. All you do is sign and date.

Maryland also has a lead testing requirement.

The form required by Maryland is here:
http://www.fha.state.md.us/pdf/mch/M...teDHMH4620.pdf

At the bottom of the box "Certification Information" there is a place to sign for an exemption.

They may give you the form here instead:
http://www.fha.state.md.us/pdf/mch/1215a.pdf

There is no place for a waiver here, so I filled it out except for the health care provider part and attached the certification form that included the portion for a waiver.

We didn't have a problem though. I didn't ask if they offered exemptions, I just filled them out. If they are compliant with maryland requirements they have to accept them. Maryland is luckily straightforward with this.

I didn't have any problems with this.
Wow you rock! Thank you so much for the information!!! :

So if I were to send him to a preschool that doesn't accept state funding, do you think all of the above would still apply because of the laws in MD? I haven't completely decided on a school yet, so I was just curious.

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Yes, it's not about accepting state funds, it's about being accredited by the state. Where are you looking?

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We were able to use a religious exemption in MD for summer camp at Irvine Nature Center. I've never used preschool, but I'd assume most of them take it as well.

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Yes, it's not about accepting state funds, it's about being accredited by the state. Where are you looking?
Oh awesome!!! We're in Hagerstown, so we're looking into the Hagerstown Children's School.

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I too will be crossing this brige soon and wondered if this form needs to be signed by the pediatrician? Assuming that doesn't and all that is required is your signature under the excemption portion?
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No, in Maryland the form does not need to be signed by clergy or medical proffessional when using a religious exemption.

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Anyone have experience using this process in the somewhat Un-crunch-friendly world of Montgomery County? We're in Bethesda; the preschool we're looking at (Bethesda Coop) explicitly states that vaccinations must be up to date. Would they still have to accept the exemption?

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Do you know how to handle the vaccination exemption issue if we've done some vaccinations but not others? That is, to do the religious exemption in MD do I have to say that my child has had no vaccinations at all?

I just moved here from a state where I was able to get a partial exemption for philosophical reasons (or religious, but you need to substantiate that one). However, we had to apply annually to the state dept of health for an exemption certificate to give the daycare/school. As a result, I'm feeling a little uncertain about the MD options and process.

Did I understand correctly that a doctor does not have to sign off on the "fact" of no vaccinations--I just put my signature at the bottom of the form and hand it to the preschool?

--floundering in the system and grateful for this resource...
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Yes, no doctor needs to sign off. You just sign. Are you finished vaccinating? Or still selectively/delaying? I personally would just report as if none had been received.

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Yes, no doctor needs to sign off. You just sign. Are you finished vaccinating? Or still selectively/delaying? I personally would just report as if none had been received.
Yes, this. My son is partially vaxed, but I just flat-out deny any vaxes at all, completely leave the ped out of it [I take the exemption for the physical as well], and if they were to ask [they never have] I'd let them know that it is between my doctor, my minister, and myself. Sometimes I feel guilty for it, but then I just get mad that the government has put me in this position. If they would truly let me make informed decisions about my child's care.... *le sigh* but that's another thing altogether.
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Thank you both for the comments on the partial vaccinations. Very helpful.

We're not done vaccinating, but I have no idea how long it will take us to find the separate Mumps, since they've stopped making it in the forseeable future. I'm also hoping for a normal and natural chickenpox exposure, but my husband doesn't feel the same, so for now I'm just postponing on that one.
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Sorry to hijack this post but now I have a question after reading this (I asked in "Vaccinations" a while back but didn't get too many responses). Now I'm curious as to what y'all think......

My (almost) 5 year old has had all of his vaccinations. He's up to date, except for the 2nd MMR.
The problem? When he was first born, I "didn't know any better" about vaccinations (and honestly didn't even really think about it) but I recently started researching them....

My son is entering kindergarden in the fall and I don't know what to do since he hasn't had the 2nd dose of MMR (which is required)
How do I handle this with the school if I don't want to give him the vax? Do I submit all his vaccinations and then attach a religious exemption to it? I mean, I think it's important for the school to know that he's had all but one shot, right? (I don't want to withhold information from them.) But will they "give me a hard time" about the religious exemption since he's had practically everything else? Or do I just give my son the 2nd MMR???

HELP. :

Again, so sorry to hijack...it just seems like you are a wealth of knowledge and I'm relatively new to all of this.
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Sorry to hijack this post but now I have a question after reading this (I asked in "Vaccinations" a while back but didn't get too many responses). Now I'm curious as to what y'all think......

My (almost) 5 year old has had all of his vaccinations. He's up to date, except for the 2nd MMR.
The problem? When he was first born, I "didn't know any better" about vaccinations (and honestly didn't even really think about it) but I recently started researching them....

My son is entering kindergarden in the fall and I don't know what to do since he hasn't had the 2nd dose of MMR (which is required)
How do I handle this with the school if I don't want to give him the vax? Do I submit all his vaccinations and then attach a religious exemption to it? I mean, I think it's important for the school to know that he's had all but one shot, right? (I don't want to withhold information from them.) But will they "give me a hard time" about the religious exemption since he's had practically everything else? Or do I just give my son the 2nd MMR???

HELP. :

Again, so sorry to hijack...it just seems like you are a wealth of knowledge and I'm relatively new to all of this.
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Double E, my understanding is that MD allows all or nothing. You can't "religiously exempt" selectively. That is why I just don't tell my son's schools that he's had any. I DO withhold that info. They have no real need to know that. I just sign the exemption form, and keep mum about the vax records I DO have.

I don't know what they would do for someone who converted part-way through the vax process though....

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Yeah- I was wondering about that (using religious exemption for selectively vaxing). Thanks!!!

I'm due with #2 any day now which is why I started researching vaccinations in the first place. Wish I had done it sooner with my son........

I think I'll just do the religious exemption and call it a day

Thanks for the advice.
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RE: 2nd MMR.

You definitely might want to go with the full religious exemption for simplicity's sake, but you do have another option.

You can get a titer (blood test) to check immunity for 1 or all three diseases, and Maryland will accept it in lieu of the 2nd MMR. The last state I lived in required the 2nd MMR to give more coverage on measles--so someone with 1 MMR could use a blood test to confirm immunity on measles and be all set. I don't know whether Maryland would require the test for just measles, or two of the diseases, or all three. But your child could have full immunity from that first MMR, already.

Good luck, whatever you decide.
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Anyone have experience using this process in the somewhat Un-crunch-friendly world of Montgomery County? We're in Bethesda; the preschool we're looking at (Bethesda Coop) explicitly states that vaccinations must be up to date. Would they still have to accept the exemption?

Thanks!
Hi! We had no problem at our Bethesda preschool. Submitted our forms with religious exemption noted on it, we never brought it up and neither did the school.

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Where do I find a spot for exemptions on the physical? I don't really object to a physical, but I do suspect it would get dicey with the pediatrician asking him/her NOT to fill out the vaccination section... Anyway, I found the religious exemption spot for immunization, and for lead blood testing, but not for the physical.

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Where do I find a spot for exemptions on the physical? I don't really object to a physical, but I do suspect it would get dicey with the pediatrician asking him/her NOT to fill out the vaccination section... Anyway, I found the religious exemption spot for immunization, and for lead blood testing, but not for the physical.

Thank you,
I don't think there is one. The forms they handed me the other day at kindy registration had some blurb on it about exemptions that said the physical could also be exempted, so I high-lighted that, and attached those forms to the official vaccination form that has the religious exemption. So far no problems, so hopefully it will stay that way.

For preschool, I just wrote a note on teh physical form about using the religious exemption.
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