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Okay... I recently found out I'm pregnant with my third baby. I'm excited, but scared. Ive had two cesareans, the second, I tried for a VBAC but was very misled and pressured into a lot of things which led to the cesarean which i later found out was completely unnecessary.

Point is, I won't do it again. My body has been violated and medically raped against my will for no real reasons. It's not happening. They can kiss my ***.

So, now, I need recommendations on a VBAC friendly... and very pro-vbac doctor, or a midwife who would be willing to take me. If I can't find one, I might just end up delivering myself at home... I don't know.

I'm from Soldotna, but I'm willing to travel to Anchorage.

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Get you a doula with VBAC experience asap. Try contacting the Alaska Birth Network. Midwives can't do VBACs here but they will have a recomendation of the vbac friendly doctors at least.
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Heh... I am a doula, but yes, I do plan to get one, however... the problem is... I am very broke. And I really hate the idea of asking someone to be my doula for free/cookies. I've done births for clients free of charge many times... But, I just don't like being on that end of the situation...

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[QUOTESamanthavv;15494622]Heh... I am a doula, but yes, I do plan to get one, however... the problem is... I am very broke. And I really hate the idea of asking someone to be my doula for free/cookies. I've done births for clients free of charge many times... But, I just don't like being on that end of the situation...

:-s[/QUOTE]

Sorry if I sound irritated... I just wrote a ten page essay/reflection on my last birth and I'm...well... Livid.

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[QUOTESamanthavv;15494622]Heh... I am a doula, but yes, I do plan to get one, however... the problem is... I am very broke. And I really hate the idea of asking someone to be my doula for free/cookies. I've done births for clients free of charge many times... But, I just don't like being on that end of the situation...

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Sorry if I sound irritated... I just wrote a ten page essay/reflection on my last birth and I'm...well... Livid.
No problem at all Samantha. I'm a doula too but unfortunatly up here in Fairbanks or I'd offer to cut you a break. How about bartering? I know there are times when I would have really appriciated a like minded person to be my on call childcare provider.

I am glad that you are working through your anger before your birth. These are some of the things you really will benefit from later down the road. Also keep in mind that you are a different person now then you were for your last birth.
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Heh... Fairbanks is kind of far! Don't know that I could do that one... I already know that if I don't do a home birth, I'll most likely deliver in Anchorage because I don't really trust the doctors here in Soldotna. And if I can't trust them, I can't feel comfortable... And it's harder here because even if I don't trust them, I want to be able to tell them what's what if necessary without everyone in town finding out about me "freaking out at the doctor." As it so often does in this itsy bitsy town.

I'm actually in the process of certifying as a childbirth educator, which is part of why I was writing that essay. It really helped... It made it easier to pinpoint what I was feeling and why I was feeling that way.

When I was pregnant with my son I really wanted a VBAC but my faith in myself to do it, changed from day to day and I think that's one thing I'll really need to work on... Keeping confident and trusting my body to do what it needs to do without being pressured into inductions at 41 and 42 weeks because I'm "overdue."

Point is, this mama isn't getting sliced again just to fatten a doctors wallet and get him home in time for dinner. He chose his profession, and he can deal with my long labor. :-P

If I do have my baby at the hospital, I most likely won't go in until im 5-6 centimeters dilated...

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Start right now educating your significant other. You have learned a lot about your body's abilities and politics of the OB ward. Make sure you teach him as well so that he can be your anchor on those days when you have doubts. He can help remind you why you wanted to do "this" when a careprovider is trying to persuade you otherwise. Men can be wonderful protectors of the family.
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I don't think midwives can do VBACs in Alaska but if you do come to Anchorage Dr. Bell is good for VBACs or Dr. Elrod in the valley. Dr Bell is my OB and he is great. He doesn't pressure you and is very chill. He can even do breech births. I have friends who used Dr. Elrod and he is really cool too.

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Geneva Woods Midwifery does VBACs. They can only do a few each month because Dr. Bell - who backs them up - has to be at the hospital during the whole labor in case intervention is needed.
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Dr. Bell? Hmm... He sounds good... Maybe he has a website or something I can look up....

I'm very interested. I had Dr. Barton for the first one, and Dr. Lindemann with the second one...

I really wish I could find a midwife but I doubt that will happen because of the consequences of a midwife doing a VBAC. It ridiculous that they won't let them do it... Especially since a VBAC carries LESS risk than a cesarean....

And yes... labor and delivery politics... The problem is... my husband isn't really "there" when I'm in labor or having the baby. He passes out at the sight of blood and he's really not a good support system for that simply because of his inability to remain conscious... Hence why I'm going to TRY to find a doula...But like I said... I am dirt broke right now, and just having the baby in Anchorage is going to cost me enough...

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The best shot I know of for a hospital birth is Dr. Elrod at Mat-su Regional. I've spoken with him myself, and am pretty damn impressed. He believes in BIRTH.

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Well, I sent dr. bell an email.... hopefully that goes through or I may have to call and schedule an appointment or something... it's just difficult being in Soldotna and all...

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Yes, it IS ABSOLUTELY ridiculous midwives aren't allowed to ATTEND VBAC's. Ob's are trained SURGEONS, period. I could go on and on and on, but I won't get on my soap box, just know that I completely understand. I know there is a traveling midwife in AK that attends VBAC's at home, but for obvious reasons it's hard to find her. I'm not from AK, but I know there is 1 (at the moment-hehe).

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I'm not 100% sure Mat-Su can do VBA2Cs.
I have worked with Dr. Bell and agree he is a good OB but still an OB and he works out of Prov.
I have not yet worked with Dr. Elrod but have heard wonderful things about him and talked to him in person. He is the ONLY OB listed with the Alaska Birth Network, if that tells you anything.

I am a Doula, I work for Barter. Currently I am contracted out for Game meat and Salmon.

I do know of 2 traveling midwives that are licensed and can do VBACs. PM or email me for more information.
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great advice Tara!
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Okay... So, Mat-su regional is in Palmer right???? I'm not from around there, so I have issues figuring things out sometimes....

I was looking into doctor elrod when I first started looking but I wasnt really considering him because it being in Wasilla (I don't even know how to get to wasilla....) But I think I will email them, see what they say and then take it from there... If it sounds agreeable to what I want... Then I will most likely schedule an appointment.

I plan on (whatever care provider I find...wherever they are) seeing them once in the first and second trimester, and then when I get up there to wait for delivery, seeing them until I deliver, and will do my typical prenatal care down here... Mostly because I can't afford to drive that far, that often. But I do want to see them a couple times in the first two trimesters, just so that we have some kind of rapport going...

I'm going to go email Dr. Elrod's office right now...

Also, Tara... As a doula... Is there anything you could work out for me? Some kind of barter? i don't know what I can offer... But I can try. I sew cloth diapers and buckle-tais and mei-tais... And I do some web deisgn... But in the event that I do go with Dr. Elrod... Would you be willing to work something out?

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Yes, Mat-Su Regional Medical Center is in Palmer, which is right alongside Wasilla. Our office is in Wasilla. If you have any questions, I can answer them. I will check for your email tomorrow and answer what I can. Again, at the end of the day, nobody can make you do something you do not want to do or something that you don't consent to. But of course, the ultimate goal of your provider is making sure that you have a healthy pregnancy, and ultimately, a healthy baby. That's why it's pertinent that when you are choosing a care-provider, you make a wise choice. You want to be able to trust in that person's ability, trust that they will help YOU to make good, sound decisions for yourself regarding YOUR care.

As for doula services- We can definitely plan on meeting and discussing it all. I like to sit down for coffee or tea with potential clients. This gives us an opportunity to get to know each other and for me to get an understanding of your hopes, desires, and expectations. If we're a good fit, then we can definitely talk barter! While I do make a living providing my services and value them for what they are, I have always believed that any woman who wants a doula should have a doula (as what most any doula would say! ).

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I emailed last night. It was kind of long, but I did!

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If you did decide to stay in soldotna for the birth, I have a good friend who is also a doula down there. She was at my VBAC (in sodotna with Dr. Barton, almost 7 years ago) it sucks things have gotten worse down there, I guess they have everywhere though

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So, I had a rough day. I was having pelvic pains and went to the ER last night, and then for a follow up this morning with the OB here... And while he was checking (apparently I have a couple of cysts...) the conversation went like this...

Doc: So, if you're due on February 14th, we'll have to do your c-section around the 7th...
Me: I'm trying for a VBAC.
Doc: *bugeyed looking directly at me* After two csections?!
Me: Yes. My last one wasn't truly necessary, I don't believe...
Doc: You do know it increases your chance of uterine rupture, right?
Me: Yes, I know... And that chance is between .05 and 1%
Doc: That's after one cesarean.
Me: I don't know the exact number but it wasn't much higher after two...
Doc: Alright... But it's risky.
Me: I understand this. You delivered my mom's VBAC after she had three cesareans... One classical and two low transverse....
Doc: I did?
Me: Yes... And she said you were still in your baseball uniform when you got called in...
Doc: Oh...

Yeah, needless to say, I felt incredibly belittled and almost looked down upon with the looks both he and the nurse were giving me. It was ridiculous. I started feeling kind of down about the whole thing... Since I hadn't heard from any other doctors I contacted...

I go home, take a nap, clean, and check my email... And guess what's waiting for me? A very awesome, very thorough, very pleasing email from Dr. Elrod! I am so stoked! He answered all of my questions, and did so in a pretty thorough manner... He seemed very positive and he sounds like just the kind of doctor that I am looking for!

The only thing I am not finding entirely agreeable is he requires VBAC women to take a childbirth education course... I'm a birth doula, and am less than a few weeks away from being certified as a childbirth educator... So I kind of feel like I know it like the back of my hand... And if I'm going to be travelling to and fro, I'd rather not have to go multiple times in a short period of time for childbirth classes...

But, I can make concessions on that... provided I can actually afford it.... So, I'm excited. He sounds like he's "the one." lol

I sent him another email, and hopefully I'll have a better idea of where to go from there after I get a reply! Hopefully I'll get an appointment in with him...

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Good Luck!
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Dr. Elrod sounds promising (maybe you can barter by teaching childbirth classes for him lol)

One thing, in your conversation you said you were "trying" for a VBAC. I know from personal experience once I started saying I am having a VBAC it gave my a lot of self-confidence and it also let others know that I meant business, this was THE plan. ykwim?

Congrats on the promising lead!

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Thanks!

And yes, I know what the mentality is. I AM having a VBAC, but when i talk to anyone else they get uppity about it... But yeah. As far as my personal views and self-talk... I AM having a VBAC. :-)

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I've been watching your You Tube Videos. I hope you get your beautiful birth.
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I'm glad Dr Elrod sounds like he will work with you and be a great provider. Being from the Valley I've heard wonderful things about him from my MW and others I know. And don't worry about finding Mat Su Regional...you can't miss it driving from Anchorage to Wasilla...it's right by the highway
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Didn't you have to take a CBE class for your doula certification? Ask him if that will suffice. I would tell him that you will take the one he recomends if he truely requires it but that you are a doula and already know the basics of what most CBE classes cover.
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Yeah, my only concern with the childbirth classes is I know they usually range $50-$100... I took a childbirth class with my son, and I'm literally just a couple assignments away from being certified as a childbirth educator myself. It'd be kind of redundant for me to take a class at this point, I would think. I have to pay for travel, meals, etc. AND gas to get to and from palmer, AND my hotel for close to my due date. So the less I have to fork out for anything, the better! I'm going to be saving up for that until it gets to be around that time. With my son, it was all VERY expensive... Last time we used credit cards because it was pretty unexpected... but this time, I'm hoping to have all the cash saved up beforehand so we don't get into the whole debt mess again.

But, that being said, I'm going to have an appointment on the 22nd. I'm getting my father-in-laws fax number so I can sign the release to get my records transferred and will call them monday to do that...

I have a doctor appointment with the doctor down here on the 14th, because just in case I decide not to go with Dr. Elrod, I do need someone keeping up with me until I do settle on a doc.

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You do not have to do the childbirth class. My client has refused to do them.
Tell him no.

Are you sure you want a hospital birth?
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I just read this thread and I wanted to say, best of luck! I'm crossing my fingers for you! You will get your VBAC! Never underestimate the power of positive thinking! I've had 2 c-sections too, so I like to read about these things. I'm in Fairbanks, though. I hope that you forgo the childbirth class, as you already know your stuff! Good luck!!

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I've been reading your thread on the CBI yahoo group! I think it is wonderful the amount of discussion you are generating!
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