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#1 of 242 Old 08-02-2009, 09:14 PM - Thread Starter
 
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All local mamas are welcome here! Visitors are welcome to pop in too. We are brought together by our passion for conscious/thoughtful/attachment/respectful/wholistic/natural parenting, not always agreeing on the path but agreeing to respectfully discuss, share, and learn together. Feel free to join in the conversation and introduce yourself!

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hot, hot and i love it i have been swimming in the ocean every single day since i got here

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Today was insane. DD1 was invited to a birthday party at Cates Park. To make a long story short, I spent almost an hour trying to find a parking space, and eventually left the kids without me - ds1 took them out and escorted them to the party, then got back in the van. During the ensuing confusion (passing over sunscreen & swimsuits, and finding out if ds2 could stay without me, etc., while trying not to block traffic), I forgot to pass my phone number to the host. The birthday girl lives in our complex, and we don't know each other's phone numbers. When we picked ds2 back up, we lucked out and got a parking space. So, we walked down, and found out that ds2 had managed to slip away from the adults and gone all the way from the playground to the beach. He was found happily throwing rocks in the water. I'm okay with it - I know this happens. But, he sure threw a scare into everyone there...and we lost his shoes.

Wow. Birthday parties aren't usually this exciting...thankfully.

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today is a beautiful day, and our morning gymnastics class was canceled, so the kids are doing some yardwork for me (paid ), taking trampoline breaks, and digging up bones (roots) in the dirt under the trampoline. I am getting a lot done and figuring out logistics of our next adoption moves, which I posted about in the adoption forum... being kind of lazy, I'm cutting and pasting to share with you guys...

we're busily figuring out the logistics of how we'll do the travel -- with the new orphanage we're working with, the director requires an initial visit to meet you, and so you can match with the child (or children in our case), and you are essentially volunteering there for a week or two. It can be a month or longer before you can get a court date (and we all know how those types of things can drag out) so I think I'm going to go for my initial visit as soon as our criminal checks come back and our social worker can put the dates of those clearances in our homestudy -- she can send me a copy of the homestudy (which I think will be finished in the next couple of weeks) and then I'll have everything I need to go and be matched with two kids! I'll stay for two weeks, meet them, volunteer at the orphanage, take the kids for medicals, and probably buy anything we're hoping to have from Uganda then, so I'm traveling home with it by myself instead of with two traumatized children, and then head back to Uganda once our application to adopt is approved by US citizenship and immigration and we can get a court date. It will be so hard to leave the little ones there, but they are in good hands there, it will be *home* for them still, and it's better than my dh trying to hold it together for 2 months by himself with working and having our two homeschooled kids along for the ride... two short trips seems better than one gigantic one... we had hoped that we could all go as a family, but that's just too much airfare when we're paying for the adoptions of two kids -- plus any time dh takes off from work he doesn't get paid for, so...

I'm super excited that things are falling into place! : we found a minister in our local homeschooling community who will write our letter of recommendation from a church or religious leader, so we have almost every single piece of this gigantic puzzle!!!!! not to jinx it or anything ... better eat some chocolate to appease the adoption gods...

off to hang laundry in the sunshine!!! : I'm jealous of your heat there, but I can't complain about a winter day like this!!

We're Tiffani , Mark , Lucy (9/99) , Dexter (8/01) ,and Zachary Marvin (3/07) and Naomi Rose (6/09), home 11/10, by way of Ugandan adoption.

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Wow Tiffani, how exciting to have everything coming together!

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Yikes Lisa, that sounds like a crazy morning. That sucks you lost his shoes... interestingly I lost my nephew's shoes at the beach a few days ago. A big pain in the butt when you live in Hope and there aren't a lot of shoe buying options!

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Hello!

It has been a long time since I've been hitting the forums in here due to being busy and general family craziness, but I'm back and excited to get to know more Vancouver-ites.

It has been crazy hot, thank goodness we live so close to Casa Gelato! Yum. Also, thank goodness its much cooler today because my house has gotten out of control due to heat induced laziness, haha.

Tiffani, thank you so much for sharing this. Adoption is something my husband and I plan on doing whether we can or can't have children (there is a possibility we won't be able to get pregnant, but aren't trying at the moment) and so I'm now realising that we should probably start looking into it and figuring out how it all works so we're more ready at the time we decide to go ahead with it. I'm so glad that everything is working out for you and your new wee ones!

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subbing - and storm bride, ack! Cates was dd's first choice for a birthday location, but I refused for exactly that reason. Luckily, she really enjoyed her second choice.

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Just subbing in because I wondered why it was so quiet on the other thread all of a sudden!:

We went to the Barnet Marine Park today to take the heat off. Glad we got there before noon though as it was a zoo in the parking lot after that. Great place to relax, they have a concession stand, lots of shade and picnic tables.

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Hi, I'm new here.

I live in Maple Ridge. Just found out I'm pregnant for the 7th time. I have 2 bio kids and 2 step-kids. My second husband and I have been trying for a baby together since Nov. '07 and have had 4 miscarriages.

I've been put through the wringer at BC Women's Recurrent Loss Clnic. Have had a couple traumatizing experiences at Ridge Meadows hospital and now find myself in the care of Dr. Farquarson at RCH and my wonderful Ridge Meadows Midwives.

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welcome sew crafty girl! so sorry to hear of your losses, and the ordeal you've gone through with the medical community, . congratulations on your pregnancy, and best wishes!!!

trying to figure out travel logistics... trying to get there as soon as possible, but since we're still waiting on a few things, it's really hard to plan anything concretely... did manage to score a whole bunch of little boy and girl clothes at two sally anns... anything that's too small we'll donate to the orphanage when I go... it's all getting very real!! I have to go get a yellow fever vaccine, and need to decide about cholera (outbreaks there, but I kind of figure that wouldn't be too hard to avoid, would it? anyone know? erica? ) and malaria meds... mark and the kids aren't going (too expensive) and I was planning to go for two trips, but today I'm thinking one might make more sense, since I'd potentially only be home for two weeks before needing to go back... so excited and freaked out at the same time!!! I have all this weird buzzy energy, but at least the house is getting clean!

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Welcome Sewcraftygirl!

Sorry to hear about your miscarriages. I've had a few myself and went for genetic counselling at BC Womens. Apparently I didn't "qualify" for counselling.: They didn't find anything wrong in the end, so I guess it was just luck of the draw.

We went with the Ridge Meadows ladies too. Really nice. Unfortunately for use both kiddos were born in RCH, but the 2nd one was a VBAC so that made things a little better. The nurses at RCH were aghast though and wrote a report on my MW about attempting a homebirth. : They're not the most up-to-date folks there...

Good luck on your pregnancy!

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Wow, ya go away for a few days and look at all the newbies that show up! A big ol' WELCOME to all the newcomers.

We came back yesterday from 4 nights in Vernon at the Komasket Music Festival. Man, it was HOT. I think it hit 39 degrees one day. Thank GOODNESS there was a lake right on our doorstep. We swam at least twice a day, often more. The kids got lots of water time.

I have learned that too much heat just renders me USELESS. It's like someone has sucked all the energy out of me and it's all I can do to get through the day. Back here at home it's a beautiful 20-something and I had a very productive day!

Very exciting news, tiffani. Boy, things are moving fast aren't they? I'm so excited for you guys. And what an amazing adventure for you - even if you weren't coming home with kids! - to spend time volunteering at an African orphanage!!

I'm on the North Shore, for any of you newbies. Though my kids are not babies anymore so I'm not as in touch with what's around for them, except to second the Rec Centres and the Libraries, too. And whoever mentioned living in Lower Lonsdale - it did used to be a "non family friendly" area, lol, to put it politely. But if you haven't seen it in the last 10 years you won't recognize it. It's now very family-friendly, high density housing, totally walkable with a rec centre and all. My mum lives there and it's a nice area if urban living is your thing.

Oh, I'm also one of the LLL leaders for the North Shore group. We meet on the second Monday of each month at the Lynn Valley United Church at 10-ish (come late, it's okay!).

My garden: well, I basically ignored it. My salad greens bolted a month ago and grew to about 5 feet tall before I plucked them. The sugar snap peas yielded little other than passing snacks as I didn't plant enough vines this year. All that's left now are some carrots and cabbages. I keep forgetting to water so I'm amazed that anything is still alive. My eat-local, grow-yer-own plans just completely fell to naught this year. Ah well, there's always next season!

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Welcome Sewcraftygirl!

Sorry to hear about your miscarriages. I've had a few myself and went for genetic counselling at BC Womens. Apparently I didn't "qualify" for counselling.: They didn't find anything wrong in the end, so I guess it was just luck of the draw.

We went with the Ridge Meadows ladies too. Really nice. Unfortunately for use both kiddos were born in RCH, but the 2nd one was a VBAC so that made things a little better. The nurses at RCH were aghast though and wrote a report on my MW about attempting a homebirth. : They're not the most up-to-date folks there...

Good luck on your pregnancy!
If all goes well I'll get discharged from the RCH Peri at 20wks and hopefully deliver at home. *fingers crossed*

Our rainbow baby, Anna Beatrice was born April 11/2010 after 4 m/c. She joins 4 brothers and sisters.
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I'm super excited that things are falling into place! : we found a minister in our local homeschooling community who will write our letter of recommendation from a church or religious leader, so we have almost every single piece of this gigantic puzzle!!!!! not to jinx it or anything ... better eat some chocolate to appease the adoption gods...
Wow, tiffani, I'm excited for you all over again! : This opportunity seems to be progressing really fast...

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My garden: well, I basically ignored it. My salad greens bolted a month ago and grew to about 5 feet tall before I plucked them. The sugar snap peas yielded little other than passing snacks as I didn't plant enough vines this year. All that's left now are some carrots and cabbages. I keep forgetting to water so I'm amazed that anything is still alive. My eat-local, grow-yer-own plans just completely fell to naught this year. Ah well, there's always next season!
We have lots to share!!! :

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I really need to start a garden. I can't do it here, but I talked to my mom, and we've agreed that we're going to clear some of hers up next year. Mom has a huge yard and hasn't really been able to maintain it for the last few years. So, we're going to clear her whole vegetable garden area, and allocate one plot to dd1 (and ds2, if he's interested). I'm sure dd1 would love to do some veggie gardening.

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Hey, storm, that's exciting news! well, maybe 'exciting' is a stretch, but certainly something fun to look forward to, lol!

I remember starting our first garden back in Richmond around 10 years ago, before kids, and we were soooo excited to pick cherry tomatoes for our (store bought) lettuce salads. We grew them in wooden barrels I think, beside our gate. It has definitely become one of my main interests and all my men are happily learning and enjoying it, too! I will take all the help I can get on the heavy stuff, lol! :

Just think in 10 years you might have chickens, fruit trees, berry patches and a HUGE veggie garden!

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Well, I have no idea what I'm doing - always wanted a garden, but mostly haven't lived in places where I could have one. I've messed around with our little patch out front, but there's not much space, tons of rocks, and I can't figure out what I want to do with it.

We have a neighbour with a larger garden plot, and he has a veggie garden. DD1's interest has really been sparked. She seems especially fascinated by tomatoes.

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i just got a picture of my tomatoes, they are coming along well, despite the english weather..i hope to get to eat some kale or something when we go back. i have to figure out this gardening but leaving the country for the summer thing maybe only plant things either really early for an early july harvest, or plant really long-growing things to harvest in the autumn? or what? sorry to hear your garden went to seed in the end, mariah, but i'm sure you learned a lot anyway and will have so much to build from. i cannot wait til my compost is ready and i can enrich the london clay further.

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autumn, i dream of your gardening life. not sure how to get it to work somehow, mixed with mine at any rate i hope to have a lot of seedlings going early next year, at least this round i will have seeds, pots, compost, rainbarrel, and landscaping all done!

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I haven't caught up with the thread but everyone. Thanks for starting it dawncayden!

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I had a great time at the Bonfire Music Festival again this year :. for being part of making it happen gr8fulmom! We missed you Piglet68 and mirthfulmum!

I've been having a good summer, but I've been feeling pretty down this week. Ds' behaviour has been rough and I'm honestly uneasy about being around other kids these days, except for the Chosen Two (neighbour children). We are not allowing ds to be in the courtyard without close supervision from us right now . Whenever he is tired or bored or overstimulated or it's the wrong phase of the moon, it seems like ds will choose a "victim" -- a child younger or close in age -- and behave in a hostile and aggressive way. It's like his brain short-circuits. He knows that what he is doing is wrong, but he doesn't seem to be able to stop himself. He is also having an unusually difficult time following simple instructions from us, which can make the daily routines extremely tedious. Stuff that we do every single day (and have for years) is a struggle. His interests are rather limited these days -- all he wants to do is play with his two best friends in the community or play chess with a parent or be read to or watch DVDs.

It's also looking like it may not work to continue having our children be cared for by our neighbour's wonderful nanny (we've been doing about 6 hours a week) . It works when ds can play with the child who he wants to play with, but it's become obvious that when the other child is not around ds will not accept the nanny's authority and that really doesn't work. He seems need a caregiver who is very warm *and* very firm *and* whose buttons aren't easily pushed. It's really unfortunate because it got my kids out of my home without having to drive anywhere -- I don't imagine that we'll be able to replicate that situation with another caregiver.

It didn't help that MIL sent me a long photocopied chapter about the evils of Permissive Parenting, along with a note about her concerns :.

On the plus side, a friend and I have been working through the The Mother's Guide to Self-Renewal: How to Reclaim, Rejuvenate and Re-Balance Your Life and that has been really interesting.

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((ksenia)) i wish i could help. it sounds like it would have been ideal. we were doing a similar thing, borrowing an au pair from a local family, she is german and reminds us all of relatives..sadly she's going back to germany before we return, so i'll be searching the universe for yet another perfect fit! i have found 4 great caregivers so far, so that's a good sign there must be something else out there! i hope it finds you quickly. oh! did you see the posting to hs-van about a 20 something woman who helps out with folks on the spectrum? it might be something that would also work for your little fellow. let me know if you didn't see it, i'll forward it.

wow, when the weather turns back to mostly cloudy, my energy just drops! i may need to find a way to live somewhere warm enough to swim outside all year round i just feel so much better. why i now live in two mostly cloudy + wet countries, i don't know.

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(((ksenia))) couldn't read without posting a cyberhug. Maybe posting on craigslist or hs-lists for someone with experience providing care for children with similar challenges?
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Thanks . Artparent, I emailed the childcare provider you're referring to .

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I wish I could help you out and watch the kids sometime, but I think with Lucas, it might just be too much.
That really sucks about your mil's not understanding what you are doing vs 'permissive parenting'. Doesn't she know that raising a child on the spectrum is a bit different then regular parenting?


We are going to do Hula Hoot this year, so we'll see some of you there
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I was pissed yesterday to learn that dh has been giving Lucas a drop or two of watermelon juice from his watermelon piece : Geez he's not even 4 months old!
Apparently it's only been twice and both times has been like a drop or two of the juice...but it makes me so flipping mad to be kept out of the loop and that he would feel that its totally ok, seeing as he's way too young and all.

I could see it if Lucas had reached out and grabbed a piece all on his own...

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((dawn)) that would upset me too. maybe he just doesn't understand the gut?

ksenia i am so excited when my kids can be taken care of by homelearners, i've found several (not all!!!) of the teenage girls astonishingly grounded. the new generations having great effect of course the european folk i've had round are equally amazing perhaps because europeans generally seem to genuinely like children. unlike the english, bless them.

so, aside from ksenia, who already lives in neighbourhood heaven, would you do this where you live? basically a regular neighbourhood party? have you ever closed your street and had a street party? i miss my main street neighbourhood even more, reading it. i don't know if i have the courage to do something like this in london. i'm already the weirdo who says hi to everyone in the street i also live on a very steep hill, which would have its problems...still, i would LOVE to meet the neighbourhood.

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the block that we lived on when dex was born (Laurel st between 22nd & 23rd near Douglas Park) had the most amazing community feel, 2 block parties a year (one at the beginning of summer, one the day before school starts) christmas parties, ladies' nights, various other events, and best of all "the bench" which was built initially because there were 8 pregnant women all in a very small radius all at the same time and it was a good place to park it for a few minutes. It is the hub of the neighborhood, and anytime the sun comes out, a small party will gather there, maybe the portable fire pit will come out if it starts to get chilly... it's just awesome, and I miss it dearly. Our kids were quite a bit younger than the rest of the kids in the 'hood, which made them really novel and welcome everywhere, but they would really benefit from it now that they are older and could participate in the impromptu games of kick the can that would spring up. this year we were going to attend the block party via skype, but our camera wasn't working... we're still really close with the neighbors there, and it will always be like our extended family in vancouver -- one time when our car broke down right as we were leaving to drive to the seattle airport to fly to mexico, we had a neighbor's car to borrow for two weeks in a matter of hours. when dex was born we had just moved in, yet I'd arrive home to dinner hanging on our doorknob every so often over the first few weeks. It was amazing, and I really miss it. I thought I could re-create that in any neighborhood, and with enough effort and a special mix of people, you could, but it's not necessarily going to work in every neighborhood. The neighborhood we're in now could be like that I think, but it's hard to invest yourself that much when you know you're leaving in less than a year, ya know? though having dinner show up after the newbies come home would be nice, maybe I should give it my best effort?

Ksenia, I'm so sorry you're struggling with wolfie... if it helps at all, everything he is doing right now will pass... new challenges will arise, but the things that he's struggling with right now, those will go away. I'm amazed at how far dexter has come, though he is still such a challenge in some ways... but on the whole, he has matured so much, and has learned to control himself in most situations. he's a total nutjob sometimes, don't get me wrong, , but I can see that he will grow into a functioning adult, and a very unique and special one at that. but I know how hard it is to struggle and worry, so ...

Started pumping last night, and I'm already making tiny little quantities of milk! makes the last 3 months of nausea and irritability worthwhile!

Went in for a haircut and color today, which was such a treat!!! didn't get what I wanted, but it's alright, I think after I wash out the fancy-lady blowdry she gave me I'll feel more at home with it...

well, I have to clean the house now, mark invited someone over for dinner tonight and since he's at work, I guess that means I'm doing all the work!! house is full of kids today, though, but luckily it's nice out, so I can kick them outside, mwahahahahaha....

We're Tiffani , Mark , Lucy (9/99) , Dexter (8/01) ,and Zachary Marvin (3/07) and Naomi Rose (6/09), home 11/10, by way of Ugandan adoption.

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so, aside from ksenia, who already lives in neighbourhood heaven, would you do this where you live?
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yes, we do it in the summer sometimes. actually, we do it informally a fair bit.

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